Because they are just not affecting a singular universe they are affecting the entire time stream and you have to prove why it wasn't a singular celestial sapien who did it even man of action said
I agree, alien x is easily hyperversal lowballing to the max, and high 1-A is being reasonable.
Prove it's all at once performed by one celestialsapien.
My point still stands, the annihilargh didn’t create an entire timeline from scratch, and Ben didn’t affect the past because the Mr. Smoothy logo is the same as it was before the universe was destroyed. You need proof it created all of the past, present and future, not just starting time. Matter moving within a space is more than enough to jumpstart time.
Changing the Art style of the multiverse is 2-B my guy
Sure
It could just be that Alien x DNA got damage (it was unusable) due to a part of his DNA being wiped out not only to mention that Alien x has no resistance to EE anyway so the Faile safe not activating still makes sense
I'm saying that his Saying he probably wrong isn't an argument it could just be that he made that statement to piss off Ben as is said.
You are just repeating the same arguments that got rejected in multiple times in multiple threads this is becoming tiresome at this point.
I don't need to prove anything the fact he called Alien x Omnipotent and referred to him being a threat to the whole existence is enough proof that he know what Celestialsapiens can do.
I wasn't referring to that part, when Alien x was creating the universe everyone weren't moving until the universe got fully created with it's time.
Wtf is wrong with you? The Whole Cosmology has 26 dimensions and each dimension are bigh enough to contains universes and the dimension that Celestialsapiens rebooted contains infinite amount of universes (basically a 2-B dimension).
The statement from man of action clearly states it's a singular celestial sapien:
You are talking about the ben again episode? That's an seperate timeline since ultimate Alien makes it clear that Eon wasn't a thing in the og series have of the prime timeline and also the artstyle change is clearly affecting the past too and would be mind answering how matter can start time
I asked for proof and you’re not giving it to me.
Why would a part of a hybrid's DNA affect Alien X? Explain.
Even if I steal-man this, the context is universe. Every other time, all he says is universe. This isn’t the first time "everything" was used to describe the universe, as shown here.
If it was debunked so many times and you’re sooo good at debunking it, then tell me what's so wrong with my analogy, other than saying "oh that's shitty."
"I don’t need to prove anything because I can freely use an NLF to my advantage."
And? What does that have to do with creating time? Explain. Also, I've already explained above that the Mr. Smoothy in the past was never changed.
Relax, dude. Changing 1 spatial dimension is literally tier 11 and changing the universe is just that.
Show scans of all universes being affected at the same time in a single timeframe.
It's not a different timeline. Ben did things in the past had affected the future, ash shown here. Eon may be from a different timeline but past Ben isn't.
Time is the measure of movement. If an object is can move then it's movements can be measured, therefore creating time.
Ben and Rook were moving in their even before time was created so that's not really a counter argument and timeless voids in fiction don't necessarily follow real world science
That just means time exists to some extent. They’re moving right? They’re movements can be measured right? Then that means they’re making their own time.
The proof is that Celestialsapiens changed the art style of the whole multiverse as we can clearly see that multiple realities were being affected even WoG confirms it.
Half of Alien x DNA got wiped out how is Ben gonna use him again?
It was also stated that Celestialsapiens change the universe all the time which refers to the multiverse as explained above so Servantis statement should be no different giving the Context that we have.
Okay and I'm going to give you the definition of what EE means :
Not an argument you are just trolling at this point.
Are you okay? Considering they were still not able to move during the Creation of the universe prove that time itself was still gone they only started moving when the Universe was fully created with it's time i really can't tell if you are blind or not at this point.
If it can contain 4D structures then no it doesn't
Maltruant not being able to use his time powers shows otherwise, it was literally stated that there was 0 time, them being able to move is just an Inconsistency which is a common thing that happens most of the time in fiction
What part of “some extent” do you not understand?
How can time exist to some extent? It either Exists or it doesn't
That some extent part is headcanon because not only it's literally implied that it was a complete timeless void but even if time existed to some extent Maltruant should've been able to use his time powers to an extent and there is no such a thing called time existing to some extent anyway that's Paradoxical
And that doesn't show anything about Ben from the past being apart of the Original timeline
Zamasu is saying time exists to some extent in the beginning of time because ben and Rook can move in it but that's not the case how can time exist to a certain extent it either exists or it doesn't and timeless voids works differently from fiction to fiction moving in a timeless void gives nothing and means nothing also Maltruant can't use his time powers because time hasn't been created yet alongside rest of the universe in the beginning of time
Wut?
I mean could just be that he only has the design from a certain point onwards. Nobody seemed to notice the shift between the 2 designs in the universe so it might have come as a natural thing to them somewhere down the line.
Aren't they the same?
Kind of Maltruant's aniilargh is the aniilargh that went off in Ben's timeline and destroyed the universe after Ben recreated the universe argit destroyed it and then the two dumbass brother's fixed it
That is probably the best counterargument for AX
Maltruant repowered the Annihilaargh using a dwarf star core, hence the different effect. However a regular Annihilaargh was used to destroy and create the universe.
This was discussed about a 100 times but no the CTB has 2-B EE (which is now finally applied on its page) which Alien X doesn’t resist (and Ben couldn’t even access Alien X due to Atomic-X getting erased yadayada). Also Alien X recreated the CTB.
So you are telling me that Maltruant Annihilaargh is 3-A while the original one is low 2-C why would he make a much weaker weapon ? And what Alien x not affecting Mr Smoothie in the past which is an argument that Zamasu braught up?
Because Efi decided big bangs are now 3-A (or maybe he didn’t have access to the necessary power to make a low 2-C although granted that wouldn’t make much sense since he would still need time to move). Rook’s memory showed that the original Mr. smoothy design was still in use after Ben recreated the universe so who knows what’s up with that. In each case it could be that the design got messed up at about the time that Alien X wanted to implant himself in the universe again.
only if the big bang is rated as a explosion
Yeah it’s clearly causing issues and a non-necessary split if 2 weapons portray it in 2 different ways and people treat them as the same thing despite there being a supposed infinite gap in power between them. How do you even differentiate between space-time expansion and explosion, page doesn’t elaborate on this?
Because explosion is a misconception, big bang is not an explosion, but some verses treats it like that, so, if the verse treats big bang as explosion, 3-A it is, but if it is as Expansion of Space-Time, Low 2-C it is
I meant more visually, how do you see the difference. I only have 1 example of a physical explosion in my mind.
I dunno, maybe statements
