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Akuma's island calc.

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Im pretty sure calcs based on both regular and violent fragmentations have been done on that forum for the feat, depends now if they are considered good or if they are outdated
 
random question that has barely anything to do with the thread: would e honda's feat of destroying a meteor be deemed valid or would it be outlierish?
 
@Alex

Thank you for helping out. It is appreciated.

@Lavcore

I do not know. Is the calculation reliable, or does it also need to be redone?
 
I do not know. In what source did he perform the feat, and does somebody have a link to the calculation?
 
In street fighter 5 and it got mountain level value, but coming from a character that is like mid tier in the verse has no other feats comparable to that, nor he was relevant before, its very questionable how legit it is
 
Well, it isn't extremely higher than other feats, especially if it also needs to be recalculated to a lower value.
 
Well if someone is willing to even recalc that one, but honestly its outlierish imo given characters top tiers like Ryu and Chun Li feats at their best arent close to Honda feat
 
a good chunk of street fighter characters don't have a lot of feats, it even states this on the page so i don't see why it would be an outlier for e honda if he hasn't displayed a cap to his power before if its immensely problematic or contradictory then yes it should be written off as an outlier.

i wouldn't say chun li is a top tier but hey that's just me.
 
It is cuz that implies he is stronger then even Akuma, which is the character known for the best feats and power in the series
 
well first off his infamous feat was performed pretty casually he smiles and then punches the ground, keep in mind this is A2 akuma who is inferior to SFIII,SFIV and SFV akuma especially SFV akuma who treated gen someone who once matched him equally even with an illness as total fodder and stomped neccali(though thats not saying much neccali gets stomped by everyone).
 
Even if its casual its a feat which few can scale to and even then, Ryu and Chun Li feats with all their power dont even touch anywhere near E Honda one at all
 
huh that reminds me why do we use a non-canon ending FROM ALPHA 3? as proof that base ryu can destroy a city?

also i don't think chun li has ever fought edmond honda nor would e honda have any reason to pursue evil organizations like shadaloo and would rather manage his bathhouse.
 
Bison uses Ryu body energy to power up the satellite that destroys a city, as far as i know its fine to use non canon but to a degree

Chun Li compared to E Honda has an obvious showing of who is above the other given what they did in the series
 
i feel like you're forgetting the most important part of my question, the "feat" in question is from ALPHA 3 you know the SF game that is like 95% non canon.

also we shouldn't use a non canon feat as proof when the feat in question is from a mostly non canon game and the feat in question never actually happened so i don't know why that would be considered valid.
 
anyways we should stop getting off track i'll save the e honda and ryu talk for a future CRT.
 
It was discussed before regarding non canon in fighting games but whatever

Well if Akuma feat is just large town(really expected it to be in the megaton range), that downgrades the verse a lot
 
The calculation blog has to be evaluated and accepted by other calc group members first.
 
Sigh....i get tired of hearing this so much around....that feat is from a non canon crossover game by Shin Akuma.....and its not even planet sized at all
 
We obviously cannot scale from crossovers.
 
@BlackDarkness679

>Oh wow just large town, that low?how come others got city and mountain level values?

With this height: "Used a height of 987m(The height of a relatively small mountain in Japan, will edit the name in later) for the biggest mountain there, because let's be honest, the mountains on Goutenkou are not going to be anywhere near close to the size of Mount Fuji or any of the 3000+m mountains in Japan.", the result is ~2 megatons.

And with violent frag the result of both sizes are ~2 megatons and ~18 megatons.

>Well if someone is willing to even recalc that one,

Can you post the old calc?
 
iirc though tbf akuma doing the island feat wasn't that serious as he was just testing ryu and left...by breaking the island but eh
 
The island punch wasn't him testing them, he just did it and left, it was well after he was done "testing" them.

Also the endings being non canon means absolutely nothing as the only contradictions to any of them is beating M. Bison for the most part.

Honda's arcade ending also doesn't imply in any way he's stronger than Akuma does because he did something better than the island punch.

Haggar's special piledriver in Final Fight Revenge also pummels you through the planet itself at relativistic speeds but he is on the level of Cody and Guy, who aren't just "mid" tiers by any means at all.
 
just because a non-canon ending has no contradictions doesn't mean it should be accepted various other endings are non-canon(referring to all of street fighter not just A3) and don't cause any contradictions but those endings aren't accepted because guess what? they're non canon therefore they should not be accepted same goes for the ryu's power blows up a city ending just because it doesn't cause any contradictions doesn't mean it should be deemed valid that's like saying ingrid's ending is valid because it doesn't cause any contradictions.
 
the thing is that never happened and never will happen and ingrid isn't canon what should be the determining factors is if it's canon, if it's realistic and if it causes no contradictions the ryu "feat" in question only qualifies for 1 maybe two of these factors of course the most important one is if it's canon, the point is that a non-canon feat should not be used whether it causes contradictions or not.
 
because it's not said in canon what destructive power ryu could unleash if bison's plan went along perfectly only that he would be unstoppable no specifics whatsoever.
 
there isn't anything said in canon anywhere how much destructive power they have if you're going to rely on that you get nothing for almost anything
 
i would much rather have an unknown rating for base ryu than using a non-canon feat that never happened in a 95% non-canon game.
 
the thing is that we don't know if it can do that or not in canon in fact if e honda's feat is deemed valid then that would actually upgrade ryu there's also the fact that the "base" ryu we use is from alpha 3 one of his earliest versions instead of his SFIII version.
 
what about it being the alpha 3 version? Ryu's always been one of SF's stronger combatants and that ending is a blatant showing of Ryu's power

Also the fact it's blowing up the entirety of "the capital" probably referring to the American capital and the explosion straight up reaches forest area which may even be beyond that of Honda's feat
 
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