Akemi Homura revision

[fandom_12312132536a]

There is such a big mess in her profile with abilities, I (and many people too) don't understand what's going there before devil Homura.

There should be:

1.Akemi Homura + her stats and abilities from 1-11 episodes(and nothing more) - 7-C tier

2.Bowmura(12th episode - Wraith arc - Rebellion(!NOT INSIDE! of witch barrier)) - unknown tier. And she doesn't regain time stop and time travel, it was only for a brief moment.

3.Homullilly(nutracker witch in Rebellion) - it is 7-B, but should be corrected to unkown tier same as Bowmura, only here she got all her previous abilities (but without time travel) + more

4.Devil Homura - 2-A, everything is clear here, I would mention that enhanced mind/memory manipulation is still her main and scariest ability


Also seems like she had no proper control over mind/memory manipulation ability before devil form

PSP game Homulilly(mortal world witch) should be removed at all IMO. Unnecessary mess, It has no data and it's not really canon, because Homura has never turned into a witch in her timelines.

 

[SomebodyData]

The abilities are pretty organized, not sure what you're talking about (Unless it's about the extent of their abilities, which seems to be the only reoccurring thing.)

Really it should be: Magical Girl | Crystalized Magical Girl | Homulily | Akuma Homura (It wouldn't change anything, just get rid of any misconceptions.)

Correct, before it was subconscious, which is how it is treated as.

It's... only a picture. Also, while it is true that it isn't canon per say, the PSP game is quite literally just an AU where only the choices are different, nothing else, and was overseen by Gen Urobutcher so it's secondary canon.

 

[Nsmch]

Weapon Creation, Power Drain, Becomes stronger once critically hurt, Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Magic, Life Absorption are not base Homura abilities.

 

[fandom_12312132536a]

What is crystalized magical girl?

Why base Homura has Weapon Creation, Power Drain, Becomes stronger once critically hurt, Life Absorption ?

Why nutracker witch is 7-B? Fake city was only a world inside of incubator's technology, in fact it was smaller than one incubator. So the "city" level can't be applied here. She brainwashed 2-A Madokami, so just set her tier to unknown.

So much mistakes that's why you can't propely match non 2-A Homura with anyone.

 

[Kaltias]

Wraith Arc stuff. Homura with a magical bow instead of time manipulation, to give you an abridged version.

Because every magical girl can do it, because she drained Madokami, that comes from the PSP game, and that one is a resistance.

The city-sized labyrinth was still created, it's simply a pocket dimension.

 

[SomebodyData]

^This basically

 

[fandom_12312132536a]

So base Homura and wraith arc Homura should have separated categories and abilities. Now they all are messed up together.

>because she drained Madokami

Yeah, and it was wraith arc Homura, not base Homura. Base 7-C Homura stopped existing after Madoka's wish.

>Because every magical girl can do it

Homura couldn't, she had to steal them (in witch form yeah she did)

>that comes from the PSP game

That comes from Wraith arc last chapters and should be adressed to wraith arc Homura

(AI YO Homura was giving her unlimit strenght against wraiths,)

If wraith arc Homura is unknow tier, so nutracker witch should be. It's her witch.

Sorry but I think you have undestanding problems. Wraith arc Homura is the same Homura from 12th episode and from Rebellion(who lays in the desert, not the one in witch barrier)

 

[SomebodyData]

They are separated. There are these "|" to separate it.

Correction, while it was Crystalized Magical Girl Homura who did it, Homura explicitly mentions Memory Manipulation to be her new ability, not once Power Drain.

No she uses military weapons since it takes less magic stamina to amp them up instead of making them off the bat. Also her shield is a weapon...

Kal was referring to the last two abilities you mentioned.

What? Why does her witch have to be unknown when she has a distinct feat?

 

[fandom_12312132536a]

Honestly, I would say that Homura did not have power drain at all. She separated Madoka's memories from Madokami to create Madoka, while Madokami's powers are sealed in her lizard earring(NOT DRAINED). She is not using Madokami's powers. There was not a single proof or evidence about power draining. I don't wanna be rude, but you're just so much wrong in everything. I probably can't help.

 

[SomebodyData]

Ah so Homura just became 2-A out of nowhere? Gained a form that is quite literally a rival to Godoka out of nowhere?

Also what? Memories = / = Existance.

You put arguments but don't even acknowledge the counterarguments...

 

[fandom_12312132536a]

>Ah so Homura just became 2-A out of nowhere?

There are a lot of theories 100 times better than "power drain".

>Also what? Memories = / = Existance

Yes, she made existance from memories. Rewatch her dialogie with Sayaka.

You guys are not familiar with franchise very well, I'm wasting time.

 

[SomebodyData]

Madoka became powerless and disconnected to the Law of Cycles.

Homura became 2-A.

Think it's pretty obvious what happened...

As for the memories thing, rewatch the sayaka dialouge. Sayaka has her memories but Madoka still exists in the False City outside of them...

> Says we're not familiar with verse.

> Doesn't know what Crystalized Magical Girl is, and judging by your wording above, not sure if you even know Different story...

 

[Nsmch]

You're right, I don't know most of side stories but I know actual canon material perfectly.


>Think it's pretty obvious what happened...

Not really, power stealing is just one primitive headcanon. Theories about Homura's old and new wish or karma transfering fit much better as actual explanation. No one of them are actually confirmed, but power stealing is just too stupid.

>As for the memories thing, rewatch the sayaka dialouge. Sayaka has her memories but Madoka still exists in the False City outside of them...

I was talking about devil Homura and Sayaka's dialogue. She literally said she took part of Madoka's memories before she cased to exist to create a human Madoka.

 

[SomebodyData]

Sock puppets huh...

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Lel, that fail

 

[Akumura]

I just realised Nsmch is a proponent of low 2-C Saitama.

 

[Antvasima]

Perhaps we should close this thread.

 

[Kaltias]

Yeah, i'll close this