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Akame vs. Blake Belladonna

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Gemmysaur said:
And despite being able to leave clones behind, Akame can see Blake pretty easy since her reaction speed is just that much higher.
Overestimated or not, we got solid feats to put them in the mhs category in reactions.

Still going by what I said earlier since Akame is only likely to fall for the clone the first 2 or 3 times she sees it and will adjust accordingly.
Until Blake starts using Dust. Even if Akame knows about the after images, she will be caught off guard against an image exploding in her face or trapping her sword in ice.
 
Hfhfdgdg said:
Until Blake starts using Dust. Even if Akame knows about the after images, she will be caught off guard against an image exploding in her face or trapping her sword in ice.
With Massively Hypersonic reactions i don't think so.
 
Hfhfdgdg said:
Gemmysaur said:
And despite being able to leave clones behind, Akame can see Blake pretty easy since her reaction speed is just that much higher.
Overestimated or not, we got solid feats to put them in the mhs category in reactions.

Still going by what I said earlier since Akame is only likely to fall for the clone the first 2 or 3 times she sees it and will adjust accordingly.
Until Blake starts using Dust. Even if Akame knows about the after images, she will be caught off guard against an image exploding in her face or trapping her sword in ice.
Blake doesn't even use dust as standard equipment. She was given it by Weiss as she doesn't carry one on her own.

So no.
 
Gemmysaur said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
Gemmysaur said:
And despite being able to leave clones behind, Akame can see Blake pretty easy since her reaction speed is just that much higher.
Overestimated or not, we got solid feats to put them in the mhs category in reactions.

Still going by what I said earlier since Akame is only likely to fall for the clone the first 2 or 3 times she sees it and will adjust accordingly.
Until Blake starts using Dust. Even if Akame knows about the after images, she will be caught off guard against an image exploding in her face or trapping her sword in ice.
Blake doesn't even use dust as standard equipment. She was given it by Weiss as she doesn't carry one on her own.
So no.
1: She used them in Volume 3 chapter 1

2: Read the match description

Blake wins.
 
Oh. That's nice to even the odds as Akame is pretty adaptable.

I'd still ay Akame wins as she'd fall for the clone thing the first few times, then she'd be moving around it as the clones require contact to do something like explode and turn to ice.

Akame has a very large advantage in reaction time so she might as well be seeing Blake fall back while she leaves a clone. She'd then is more likely to attack the real Blake who fell back than the Blake who stopped moving.


Still stand by what I said. Akame 9/10.
 
Gemmysaur said:
Oh. That's nice to even the odds as Akame is pretty adaptable.
I'd still ay Akame wins as she'd fall for the clone thing the first few times, then she'd be moving around it as the clones require contact to do something like explode and turn to ice.

Akame has a very large advantage in reaction time so she might as well be seeing Blake fall back while she leaves a clone. She'd then is more likely to attack the real Blake who fell back than the Blake who stopped moving.


Still stand by what I said. Akame 9/10.
Blake's most recent fight in the tournament only showed her apply dust to her images when needed. She only used the Ice image once and that led to her opponent staggering.

Just because Akame has quick reaction speeds, it does not help her with breaking Blake's guard. She is an expert in melee combat and, unlike akame, can use mid and long ranged strikes effectively. If her aura is running low because she, for some reason, can not keep up with Akame (not being the case since her speed is enhanced, being superior to the rest of her team), she can rely on her semblance to retreat or gain a superior angle on Akame.

Akame only has super human physical abilities along with her one-hit kill sword. Blake has a more versatile weapon, higher speed (even if her reaction speed is lower, it doesn't matter since Akame's speed is below Blake's perception limit), superior durability, and her stamina is enough to give enough time to wound Akame before coming close to losing her aura.

Akame simply does not have the physical force to harm Blake's aura by any significant degree. Blake just has to get one or two good hits in to slow Akame down and resort to long ranged slashes or shoot her pistol to cripple her.

Blake wins.
 
Blake is not that much faster than the rest, if anything, semblance'd Ruby is the fastest among them. Also, she is not faster than Akame, more like roughly equal.

Akame also does not simply cut and slash, she can grapple as well, which Blake has no experience fighting against.

Despite Blake's versatile weapon, her bullets are almost non-factor in a fight of this speed.

Blake also may have higher durability, but not so much that it would lead her to win since Akame is extremely skilled in swordsmanship that she can stand toe to toe with Esdeath.

Akame has enough strenght to dent Blake's aura, though not hard enough to do so in a few slashes, will still be hurting.

Lastly, mindset.

Blake never got to the point of killing anyone. How'd that affect the fight, is that I see her trying to incap Akame, not kill. She'd likely slow down or pull the punches when Akame gets injured enough since she doesn't have aura. What Akame does have is high pain tolerance and stamina.

I still stand by Akame winning.

Seems like we need a tiebreaker or something since we're not agreeing on anything.

Akame is more adaptive while Blake is more versatile.
 
Gemmysaur said:
Blake is not that much faster than the rest, if anything, semblance'd Ruby is the fastest among them. Also, she is not faster than Akame, more like roughly equal.
Akame also does not simply cut and slash, she can grapple as well, which Blake has no experience fighting against.

Despite Blake's versatile weapon, her bullets are almost non-factor in a fight of this speed.

Blake also may have higher durability, but not so much that it would lead her to win since Akame is extremely skilled in swordsmanship that she can stand toe to toe with Esdeath.

Akame has enough strenght to dent Blake's aura, though not hard enough to do so in a few slashes, will still be hurting.

Lastly, mindset.

Blake never got to the point of killing anyone. How'd that affect the fight, is that I see her trying to incap Akame, not kill. She'd likely slow down or pull the punches when Akame gets injured enough since she doesn't have aura. What Akame does have is high pain tolerance and stamina.

I still stand by Akame winning.

Seems like we need a tiebreaker or something since we're not agreeing on anything.

Akame is more adaptive while Blake is more versatile.
I enjoy the fact that you left out that Blake could simply KO Akame. She has no qualms of knocking her opponents unconscious and has done it quite a few times.

"Akame can grapple, which Blake has no experience against" hah... she does, and if Akame grabs her, she will risk taking damage while her sword bounces off Blake's aura.

No, Akame does not have enough physical strength. Her swipes are only superior to peak human via feats in the manga. She could not dent any hard metal and relied on finding a target's weak point. When against Wave, she had to swipe at the same weak spot in his armor over and over again in order to find a mark to hit, which took quite a while. Blake's barrier refreshes until she runs out of aura, which she knows how to reserve the most out her team. When fighting in the tournament, she was brawling against a contender one-on-one and manged to defeat her via ring-out and lowering her aura levels while she herself remained at 70% of her original Aura capacity with Ruby and Weiss ahead (the two of them spent the whole time in the support role and were only seen fighting alongside one another... they were both below 90% while Blake was still at 70% despite fighting an opponent for an extended period of time even after they infused their weapon with Dust). As soon as her opponent started proving to be more challenging and was about to make Blake use up more stamina and aura, she used a completely different tactic to draw her in and quickly subdue her.

Her bullets being a non factor is not true. They can pose as a distraction and she uses the bullets to increase the speed of her gun-blade or change its direction when she is applying mid-ranged attacks.

Akame having higher Adaptability than Blake having Versatility? Ridiculous. That is completely biased. Blake is an expert in close, mid, long range combat, has a passive barrier that can take the brunt from Boulders, bullets, explosions, and blows from people who are around her power level, she has bullets, elemental mimicry, her semblance, and her own self-designed weapon that she can fuse her aura into in order to increase the force or range of her attacks. It should be mentioned that, as a long time member of the White Fang, she, along with Adam, has been trained to act like an assassin when doing missions. Her experience in that field would allow her to adapt more easily when fighting Akame who is a professional assassin.

Akame only stood toe-to-toe with Esdeath in the Anime. In the manga, Esdeath was pushing her back and Akame only had her speed to actually keep her from being killed.

Blake wins.
 
Hfhfdgdg said:
Gemmysaur said:
Blake is not that much faster than the rest, if anything, semblance'd Ruby is the fastest among them. Also, she is not faster than Akame, more like roughly equal.
Akame also does not simply cut and slash, she can grapple as well, which Blake has no experience fighting against.

Despite Blake's versatile weapon, her bullets are almost non-factor in a fight of this speed.

Blake also may have higher durability, but not so much that it would lead her to win since Akame is extremely skilled in swordsmanship that she can stand toe to toe with Esdeath.

Akame has enough strenght to dent Blake's aura, though not hard enough to do so in a few slashes, will still be hurting.

Lastly, mindset.

Blake never got to the point of killing anyone. How'd that affect the fight, is that I see her trying to incap Akame, not kill. She'd likely slow down or pull the punches when Akame gets injured enough since she doesn't have aura. What Akame does have is high pain tolerance and stamina.

I still stand by Akame winning.

Seems like we need a tiebreaker or something since we're not agreeing on anything.

Akame is more adaptive while Blake is more versatile.
I enjoy the fact that you left out that Blake could simply KO Akame. She has no qualms of knocking her opponents unconscious and has done it quite a few times.
"Akame can grapple, which Blake has no experience against" hah... she does, and if Akame grabs her, she will risk taking damage while her sword bounces off Blake's aura.

No, Akame does not have enough physical strength. Her swipes are only superior to peak human via feats in the manga. She could not dent any hard metal and relied on finding a target's weak point. When against Wave, she had to swipe at the same weak spot in his armor over and over again in order to find a mark to hit, which took quite a while. Blake's barrier refreshes until she runs out of aura, which she knows how to reserve the most out her team. When fighting in the tournament, she was brawling against a contender one-on-one and manged to defeat her via ring-out and lowering her aura levels while she herself remained at 70% of her original Aura capacity with Ruby and Weiss ahead (the two of them spent the whole time in the support role and were only seen fighting alongside one another... they were both below 90% while Blake was still at 70% despite fighting an opponent for an extended period of time even after they infused their weapon with Dust). As soon as her opponent started proving to be more challenging and was about to make Blake use up more stamina and aura, she used a completely different tactic to draw her in and quickly subdue her.

Her bullets being a non factor is not true. They can pose as a distraction and she uses the bullets to increase the speed of her gun-blade or change its direction when she is applying mid-ranged attacks.

Akame having higher Adaptability than Blake having Versatility? Ridiculous. That is completely biased. Blake is an expert in close, mid, long range combat, has a passive barrier that can take the brunt from Boulders, bullets, explosions, and blows from people who are around her power level, she has bullets, elemental mimicry, her semblance, and her own self-designed weapon that she can fuse her aura into in order to increase the force or range of her attacks. It should be mentioned that, as a long time member of the White Fang, she, along with Adam, has been trained to act like an assassin when doing missions. Her experience in that field would allow her to adapt more easily when fighting Akame who is a professional assassin.

Akame only stood toe-to-toe with Esdeath in the Anime. In the manga, Esdeath was pushing her back and Akame only had her speed to actually keep her from being killed.

Blake wins.
First off, the fact that she broke through Grand Chariot period means she is capable of striking precisely where she wants. She was also able to find a weak spot. When it comes to Intelligence and adaptibility, Akame wins. Blake me be more durable and stronger, but speed means everything. If Blake used her images. The first one would catch Akame off guard. After that Akame will but it in her brain and prepare a combat strategy to fight against it. Blake may have aura, but again, Akame will have no problem adapting to that. She was able to break through Grand Chariot. She's just going to apply the same strategy, except not hitting the same spot. Her reaction speed gives her a large advantage against Blake as she will be able to easily down for cut any bullets, react to Blake's images, and be all around prepared for Blake. And Blake as far as we have seen has no experience of unarmed hand-to-hand combat. While Akame on the other hand, does.

I would call this a 8/10 Akame. Blake's strength, aura, dust and images will at first pose a problem for her, and the first couple seconds will go to Blake winning as neither of them know anything about the other. Blake will have the advantage until she uses a image whether it's dust or not, she will then lose that advantage.
 
Drellix said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
Gemmysaur said:
Blake is not that much faster than the rest, if anything, semblance'd Ruby is the fastest among them. Also, she is not faster than Akame, more like roughly equal.
Akame also does not simply cut and slash, she can grapple as well, which Blake has no experience fighting against.

Despite Blake's versatile weapon, her bullets are almost non-factor in a fight of this speed.

Blake also may have higher durability, but not so much that it would lead her to win since Akame is extremely skilled in swordsmanship that she can stand toe to toe with Esdeath.

Akame has enough strenght to dent Blake's aura, though not hard enough to do so in a few slashes, will still be hurting.

Lastly, mindset.

Blake never got to the point of killing anyone. How'd that affect the fight, is that I see her trying to incap Akame, not kill. She'd likely slow down or pull the punches when Akame gets injured enough since she doesn't have aura. What Akame does have is high pain tolerance and stamina.

I still stand by Akame winning.

Seems like we need a tiebreaker or something since we're not agreeing on anything.

Akame is more adaptive while Blake is more versatile.
I enjoy the fact that you left out that Blake could simply KO Akame. She has no qualms of knocking her opponents unconscious and has done it quite a few times.
"Akame can grapple, which Blake has no experience against" hah... she does, and if Akame grabs her, she will risk taking damage while her sword bounces off Blake's aura.

No, Akame does not have enough physical strength. Her swipes are only superior to peak human via feats in the manga. She could not dent any hard metal and relied on finding a target's weak point. When against Wave, she had to swipe at the same weak spot in his armor over and over again in order to find a mark to hit, which took quite a while. Blake's barrier refreshes until she runs out of aura, which she knows how to reserve the most out her team. When fighting in the tournament, she was brawling against a contender one-on-one and manged to defeat her via ring-out and lowering her aura levels while she herself remained at 70% of her original Aura capacity with Ruby and Weiss ahead (the two of them spent the whole time in the support role and were only seen fighting alongside one another... they were both below 90% while Blake was still at 70% despite fighting an opponent for an extended period of time even after they infused their weapon with Dust). As soon as her opponent started proving to be more challenging and was about to make Blake use up more stamina and aura, she used a completely different tactic to draw her in and quickly subdue her.

Her bullets being a non factor is not true. They can pose as a distraction and she uses the bullets to increase the speed of her gun-blade or change its direction when she is applying mid-ranged attacks.

Akame having higher Adaptability than Blake having Versatility? Ridiculous. That is completely biased. Blake is an expert in close, mid, long range combat, has a passive barrier that can take the brunt from Boulders, bullets, explosions, and blows from people who are around her power level, she has bullets, elemental mimicry, her semblance, and her own self-designed weapon that she can fuse her aura into in order to increase the force or range of her attacks. It should be mentioned that, as a long time member of the White Fang, she, along with Adam, has been trained to act like an assassin when doing missions. Her experience in that field would allow her to adapt more easily when fighting Akame who is a professional assassin.

Akame only stood toe-to-toe with Esdeath in the Anime. In the manga, Esdeath was pushing her back and Akame only had her speed to actually keep her from being killed.

Blake wins.
First off, the fact that she broke through Grand Chariot period means she is capable of striking precisely where she wants. She was also able to find a weak spot. When it comes to Intelligence and adaptibility, Akame wins. Blake me be more durable and stronger, but speed means everything. If Blake used her images. The first one would catch Akame off guard. After that Akame will but it in her brain and prepare a combat strategy to fight against it. Blake may have aura, but again, Akame will have no problem adapting to that. She was able to break through Grand Chariot. She's just going to apply the same strategy, except not hitting the same spot. Her reaction speed gives her a large advantage against Blake as she will be able to easily down for cut any bullets, react to Blake's images, and be all around prepared for Blake. And Blake as far as we have seen has no experience of unarmed hand-to-hand combat. While Akame on the other hand, does.
I would call this a 8/10 Akame. Blake's strength, aura, dust and images will at first pose a problem for her, and the first couple seconds will go to Blake winning as neither of them know anything about the other. Blake will have the advantage until she uses a image whether it's dust or not, she will then lose that advantage.
I don't think you understand that her images have substance, so she can use them as a shield or a means to change direction. You're simply saying that they only have the ability to distract Akame, when Blake can use them as an environmental means. Akame's adaptability doesn't mean she automatically takes it. I already stated that Blake has much more versatility and options than Akame has adaptability via her weaponry, aura, semblance, and dust... she takes this.

Blake wins.
 
Again I'll say this. Blake has the advantage for the first 30 seconds to a minute. Akame won't know about her semblance or aura or the dust. She'll have a small window of opportunity to take Akame down. After that window, it will much harder for her, as she will know about the semblance, aura and dust and fight accordingly. Let also point out that in love both of these series. I'm not being biased at all. But for up to the first minute, Blake has the advantage, after that, I give it to Akame.
 
Drellix said:
Again I'll say this. Blake has the advantage for the first 30 seconds to a minute. Akame won't know about her semblance or aura or the dust. She'll have a small window of opportunity to take Akame down. After that window, it will much harder for her, as she will know about the semblance, aura and dust and fight accordingly. Let also point out that in love both of these series. I'm not being biased at all. But for up to the first minute, Blake has the advantage, after that, I give it to Akame.
Even if Akame knows the ability, Blake can still use it as a means of transportation or retreat. She still holds the advantage and Akame is severely limited physically. Blake will win.
 
Also, with the recent calc for Akame dodging lightning (AKA Mach 0.4), she no longer holds any speed advantage over Blake.
 
The Everlasting said:
Also, with the recent calc for Akame dodging lightning (AKA Mach 0.4), she no longer holds any speed advantage over Blake.
What do you mean by that?
 
The Everlasting said:
Also, with the recent calc for Akame dodging lightning (AKA Mach 0.4), she no longer holds any speed advantage over Blake.
Akame probably should be City Block imo though.
 
Drellix said:
The Everlasting said:
Also, with the recent calc for Akame dodging lightning (AKA Mach 0.4), she no longer holds any speed advantage over Blake.
What do you mean by that?
Imago recently calc'd Akame's lightning dodging feat, and it came out a measly Mach 0.4, not even Subsonic+.
 
ImagoDesattrolante said:
The Everlasting said:
Also, with the recent calc for Akame dodging lightning (AKA Mach 0.4), she no longer holds any speed advantage over Blake.
Akame probably should be City Block imo though.
Well, she isn't. So it doesn't really matter.
 
The Everlasting said:
Drellix said:
The Everlasting said:
Also, with the recent calc for Akame dodging lightning (AKA Mach 0.4), she no longer holds any speed advantage over Blake.
What do you mean by that?
Imago recently calc'd Akame's lightning dodging feat, and it came out a measly Mach 0.4, not even Subsonic+.
I don't understand. She should easily be moving at mach 58309. That's the speed at lightning moves.
 
Drellix said:
The Everlasting said:
Drellix said:
The Everlasting said:
Also, with the recent calc for Akame dodging lightning (AKA Mach 0.4), she no longer holds any speed advantage over Blake.
What do you mean by that?
Imago recently calc'd Akame's lightning dodging feat, and it came out a measly Mach 0.4, not even Subsonic+.
I don't understand. She should easily be moving at mach 58309. That's the speed at lightning moves.
First of all, no, Mach 58,309 is not remotely the speed lightning moves. The speed of lightning is Mach 294.

Second, it can be far lower depending on how far the lightning was when she dodged. Check Imago's calc for more details.

Also, I just realized Blake is Large Building level while Akame is only Building level.
 
Akame does not move at sub rel+... also lightning does not move at sub rel+, for an explanation why dodging lightning isn't immediately MHS, see here
 
So it is official... Blake wins. Can we just make this official... I know i've been on this post for only like 2 days, but it feels like a week... lmfao
 
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
So it is official... Blake wins.
Not really.
I know, I just want this to end... I'm literally wanted to focus on the Doflamingo fights that have been going on and the one I started.
Considering Akame should be City Block for fighting a while with Esdeath...
Where are these feats of her being City Block? I don't see any way she can be City Block unless you're looking at the anime alternative.
 
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
So it is official... Blake wins.
Not really.
I know, I just want this to end... I'm literally wanted to focus on the Doflamingo fights that have been going on and the one I started.
Considering Akame should be City Block for fighting a while with Esdeath...
There is no instance in which Akame is city block. Only in anime, and we don't use that.
 
Drellix said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
So it is official... Blake wins.
Not really.
I know, I just want this to end... I'm literally wanted to focus on the Doflamingo fights that have been going on and the one I started.
Considering Akame should be City Block for fighting a while with Esdeath...
There is no instance in which Akame is city block. Only in anime, and we don't use that.
No, she scales to Esdeath's durability in AP.
 
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Drellix said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
So it is official... Blake wins.
Not really.
I know, I just want this to end... I'm literally wanted to focus on the Doflamingo fights that have been going on and the one I started.
Considering Akame should be City Block for fighting a while with Esdeath...
There is no instance in which Akame is city block. Only in anime, and we don't use that.
No, she scales to Esdeath's durability in AP.
How so?
 
Drellix said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Drellix said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
So it is official... Blake wins.
Not really.
I know, I just want this to end... I'm literally wanted to focus on the Doflamingo fights that have been going on and the one I started.
Considering Akame should be City Block for fighting a while with Esdeath...
There is no instance in which Akame is city block. Only in anime, and we don't use that.
No, she scales to Esdeath's durability in AP.
How so?
Damaging her a bit, fighting with her somewhat consistently.
 
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Drellix said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Drellix said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
ImagoDesattrolante said:
Hfhfdgdg said:
So it is official... Blake wins.
Not really.
I know, I just want this to end... I'm literally wanted to focus on the Doflamingo fights that have been going on and the one I started.
Considering Akame should be City Block for fighting a while with Esdeath...
There is no instance in which Akame is city block. Only in anime, and we don't use that.
No, she scales to Esdeath's durability in AP.
How so?
Damaging her a bit, fighting with her somewhat consistently.
First off, no she doesn't. She couldn't break through Esdeaths ice, much less hurt her.
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Second, I want to just point out, most of his lightning attacks come from the clouds.
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