- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #41
It only scales to Mine's Teigu at maximum power. But said power also destroyed it iirc.
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Akame ga Kill Scaling revision, and tier changes
- Thread starter VersusJunkie54
- Start date
- 61,177
- 14,693
It would literally just scale to Mine with a one time, self-destruct-esque attack in maximum danger
- 63,522
- 8,487
If I may ask why was Esdeath's 6B storm considered environmental destruction again?
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #44
Because the effect is spread out across a large area. Similar to Big Chill from Ben 10.
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #46
I'll add it.
- 7,461
- 2,875
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #48
It wouldn't matter since it is so low compared to everything else in the verse.Newendigo said:
- 19,122
- 6,334
Anyway, here are all the AP calcs that i found:
Lubbock and Sten clash (9-A)
Esdeath freezes a river (Low 7-B)
Esdeath freezes the natio (6-B)
Shikoutazer has a Low 7-B and a 6-C feat
Budo's Solid Shooter is 7-B to 7-A
Also a metric ton of people don't have justifications for their stats
Can't help much with the scaling sadly as i'm not knowledgeable
Lubbock and Sten clash (9-A)
Esdeath freezes a river (Low 7-B)
Esdeath freezes the natio (6-B)
Shikoutazer has a Low 7-B and a 6-C feat
Budo's Solid Shooter is 7-B to 7-A
Also a metric ton of people don't have justifications for their stats
Can't help much with the scaling sadly as i'm not knowledgeable
- 63,522
- 8,487
Killing a building level danger Beast
To which I ask, why isn't she just Low 7C?
To which I ask, why isn't she just Low 7C?
- 63,522
- 8,487
\_;-_-)_/
Nope, in fact I have literally zero idea where it came from.
That, and Akame's Low 7C rating is based of her being comparable to Rakshasa demons which are Low 7C based off....Nothing.
Nope, in fact I have literally zero idea where it came from.
That, and Akame's Low 7C rating is based of her being comparable to Rakshasa demons which are Low 7C based off....Nothing.
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #54
Honestly, I feel like we should just completely redo the Akame ga Kill scaling from scratch. It is ****** in so many ways.......
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #56
Drellix is very knowledgeable in the verse. But he's been inactive for some time. I am currently re-reading the series to refresh my memory. So I may be able to figure some things out in due time.
- 10,394
- 3,345
Is Drellix still around? He knows the verse well.
EDIT: Ninja'd
EDIT: Ninja'd
- 63,522
- 8,487
No
But to be quite honest, even when he was around I still disagreed with a lot of what he said and the ratings.
I've read AGK, and I'm up to date on Zero. I can help quite a bit.
But to be quite honest, even when he was around I still disagreed with a lot of what he said and the ratings.
I've read AGK, and I'm up to date on Zero. I can help quite a bit.
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #59
I left a messege on his wall with the link to this thread should he return.
- 10,394
- 3,345
Guess this as good a time as any to pick AgK up again.
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #61
Speaking of Zero...Gargoyle One said:
I've only made my way up to Chapter 15 atm. But are there any feats in later chapters that would be worth calculating?
- 63,522
- 8,487
No unfortunately
- 8,375
- 3,043
I guess I'll do it, tooThe Everlasting said:
- 19,122
- 6,334
Well, while i'm not knowledgeable about the verse myself, I can help with calcs if you guys find some good feats at least.
It would help a to if someone had the patience of making a blog with the battles and the various feats, but I understand if no one wants to. Just a suggestion given that it worked well for me the last time that I had to do a verse wide revision
It would help a to if someone had the patience of making a blog with the battles and the various feats, but I understand if no one wants to. Just a suggestion given that it worked well for me the last time that I had to do a verse wide revision
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #65
It might be possible to calc part of the Ice Storm created by Esdeath rather than the entire thing. I'd have to take a look back at that section of the manga though.
- 61,177
- 14,693
Ice Storm would only be AP for that one single attack, it wouldnt scale to general AP, and iirc it requires some prep time and takes a lot out of Esdeath to even use
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #68
The reasoning for it being used for Enivormental destruction rather than direct AP was because it would be an "outlier"
The main reasoning with this was that people assumed that Esdeath couldn't be stronger than the Emperor's Teigu. The problem with this is that Esdeath has been built up as the strongest in the series, been holding back most of the time. Stage 4 Tatsumi defeated the Emperor's Teigu, and his next, and strongest form Tyrant was casually one shotted by Esdeath. So I do not beleive it would really be an outlier for Esdeath.
At least this is what I remember.
The main reasoning with this was that people assumed that Esdeath couldn't be stronger than the Emperor's Teigu. The problem with this is that Esdeath has been built up as the strongest in the series, been holding back most of the time. Stage 4 Tatsumi defeated the Emperor's Teigu, and his next, and strongest form Tyrant was casually one shotted by Esdeath. So I do not beleive it would really be an outlier for Esdeath.
At least this is what I remember.
- 63,522
- 8,487
It was not considered an outlier actually, Esdeath was severely holding back the entire series with only post trump card Akame fighting her.
- 61,177
- 14,693
Ice Storm wouldnt scale to her general AP though
- 63,522
- 8,487
Not really, she uses the attack because she has never fought for days and was storing up slot of power, that said it never drained her, only Mahapadma did.WeeklyBattles said:
- 5,822
- 702
- Thread starter
- #72
In fact, Ice Storm replenishes her powers.
- 63,522
- 8,487
^
- 61,177
- 14,693
Ah, my mistake, thought it drained her as well, but i do remember it requiring prep time, something about needing to build up her ice powers ie. not something she can just pull off whenever
- 63,522
- 8,487
She wasn't building it up per se, she was growing stronger due to the lack of fighting she was doing for days.
- 61,177
- 14,693
Ice Storm Commander-In-Chief: Esdeath is able to focus her mighty power to create a powerful ice storm capable of covering an entire country with ice and snow. Although, she did it relying on the power that she puts into her Ice Cavalry, that took her a few days to create them (Which means that she should be capable of doing it by her own). From what she has said, it replenishes her powers constantly while the storm is active.
- 63,522
- 8,487
So she could create them on her own power, I genuinely don't see how that's prep, she made them for the Empire.
- 61,177
- 14,693
Because it took several days of not fighting and building up her power to be able to use the ability
- 63,522
- 8,487
I thought you were referring to the Soldiers, not on her own.
- 19,122
- 6,334
Basically as a rule of thumb it's:
1) Is Esdeath unable to replicate the feat afterwards?
2) Does Esdeath's power drop after using it?
If the answer to both is no, there are arguments to be made to scale it to her regular AP.
Basically what you need to find out is if the situation was "Esdeath kept getting stronger until she hit 6-B" or "Esdeath prepared a single use 6-B attack"
1) Is Esdeath unable to replicate the feat afterwards?
2) Does Esdeath's power drop after using it?
If the answer to both is no, there are arguments to be made to scale it to her regular AP.
Basically what you need to find out is if the situation was "Esdeath kept getting stronger until she hit 6-B" or "Esdeath prepared a single use 6-B attack"
