Hello everyone in this thread, today I want to talk about Ajimu's Debunk to 8-C and honestly the arguments used are a "little" questionable, warning that I'm not a true connoisseur of the verse but I like researching characters in the sense of Power scaling because it's fun and I have a Web friend who defends the character who asked me to revert Debunk since she doesn't have I have a vs battle account and just because I really want to, I'm going to try to level up the character, it'll be fun!
We can simply analyze the context of the scene, the scene is about Ajimu and how much she has lived, with the phrase "THE MEMORY OF ONE WHO LIVED TOO LONG...!!". Let's ignore the information that she saw the creation of the universe for now, let's move on to the following scenes. She observed the earth begin to exist, the first living being, the first humans, etc. Ok, the context is that she is there in person, as we see her see the creation of the earth in space, but from this we are shown a view of her on earth, as we can see this by the way the background with the blue sky is shown. , showing that she is no longer in space, so looking at what was shown, she demonstrates seeing such events personally and up close while the manga shows what she saw, be it the first human beings or the creation of the earth. So what is shown of her talking about seeing the creation of the universe is her seeing the beginning of the Big Bang, since if she were so far away that the energy of the big Bang could be equated to the 8-C level or similar, it would already be the expansion of the universe.. and not her creation, which would contradict the entire context that was shown of Ajimu's sentence and the context shown by the following scenes. We can say that it was at least close and tier 3-A would be guaranteed here.
This only applies to Big Bang Low 2-C where the creation of space and time is something metaphysical, which is not the case as Medaka box's Big Bang is 3-A and this was mentioned in Debunk and this is still accepted, being the problem that the distance was supposedly unknown, I don't even need to talk about this point but it's good to remember
Creating a supposed Big Bang that would create all the space of a universe or its space and time through a physical explosion is a 3-A feat, and grants Explosion Manipulation, limited Spatial Manipulation and limited Time Manipulation. Surviving such an event from its center or near it is a Universe level feat in durability, but like in all explosions, the further away one is from the center, the least of its power is withstood.
Now I want to talk about the skills that vs Battle disregards for somewhat meaningless reasons.
Which honestly should be changed to "possibly Low 1-A" since we are talking about a possibility and the level of power to transcend dimensions is Low 1-A
But continuing... Here it talks about being possibly bigger, but it's a bit strange to say that they have an unknown veracity. In the scans themselves, Ajimu shows herself using some of the skills she describes, we see her using lightning and one of the skills she mentions in the Scan is precisely the ability to use lightning, in another, she mentions an ability to transform into a monster and on the page itself she is like a monster, this happens with all the scans she describes her abilities with her demonstrating one of the skills she mentions. Furthermore, there is a clear relationship between the skills she mentions and the ones she demonstrates, for example, he mentions being able to control her speed and strength and in the work he demonstrates this as her being able to use skills that are multipliers that multiply a characteristic, like magic. or sword skills, showing that the skills she cites are related to. you literally left bone manipulation via one of these scenes but want to disregard other information given on the same page just because.
Also, things seem to be missing from his profile that would be interesting to add, let's start with Plot Manipulation Hax, Ajimu can clearly change the theme of the work or even change the protagonist, like, This is literally mentioned as one of the phrases of the character on the vs Battle page. And the work, as already mentioned on Medaka's page, is a metafictional parody manga, literally Medaka is just not considered universal thanks to this, so there is no reason to say that Ajimu is not being literal here. She is also spoken of as being fair to the plot. Ajimu is actually called Ashin'in San, and the interesting thing is that the name of the creator of the work is Ishin, Ajimu's name being just the feminine version of his name and in addition she is spoken with more authority than the author, Ajimu I planned to transform the fighting manga into a romantic comedy manga.
We can also mention that Hanten Shiranui, who is Ajimu's partner, can grant plot manipulation to Zenkichi
Ajimu is shown as superior to the verse several times, first she is clearly shown to be holding back for the good of the work, such as turning off her omniscience to be fair to the work, Ajimu also lets herself be affected by other characters, such as Kamugawa saying who only managed to seal Ajimu because she let him seal him, yes he may have even managed to seal an exact copy of her, but Ajimu is fair to the script and if he were to actually manage to seal her, Ajimu wouldn't need to let him seal her in the first place, since he would hypothetically have the capacity to do so. Ajimu is tough that she would survive Hanten in all probability. Hanten also states that Ajimu is unique and that his ability to create ability is nothing but a shadow to hers and the possibility is said that he was apparently sealed but came out on his own, so him being inferior to Ajimu would also prove her to be above the seal and be left sealed of its own accord.
Ajimu is also called Omnipotent, all-powerful or even the Transcendental character, being very consistent with her having the greatest feats and quotes in the work, having a huge gap between the other characters and her, with her doing whatever she wants in the plot and limiting herself on purpose for the good of the work, even on the character's page in this Wiki she is accepted as the strongest in the verse.
As I have already shown to Scan, Ajimu is said to be the type of character who is above the author, making his statements super valid, with everything that has been elaborated it is safe to say that there is no reason to doubt the veracity of Ajimu's abilities or his superiority. insane above the other characters, we have no reason to limit her to the same level as the others, so her description of her abilities are 100% valid, due to her ability to Transcend Dimensions, she could be placed with the Low 1-A tier since quotes like that even without much context would put it in this tier.
Ajimu goes from one dimension to another, as mentioned in Hanten's Profile, which if we consult the range system, reaching interdimensional is above High 3-A, so Ajimu's feat would be infinite speed.
Ajimu went beyond the space and time of the universe to go to another, so infinite speed as I said.
In short, remove Debunk 3-A, make Ajimu's abilities completely valid, add immeasurable speed to Ajimu since he could reach a Low 1-A level of existence and add Ajimu's haxs to his skill list and Plot manipulation together and infinite speed if correct.
Well, most of the scans and the reason I'm here are from my web friend who I mentioned, so credits to ajimuOFC.
On Ajimu Najimi's profile is the following description: "She was able to observe the creation of the universe but we do not know how close she was to the blast".*
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> *This description alone would already rule out the probability of this scaling it to Universe level, better fitting to say that her Tier is Unknown.*
We can simply analyze the context of the scene, the scene is about Ajimu and how much she has lived, with the phrase "THE MEMORY OF ONE WHO LIVED TOO LONG...!!". Let's ignore the information that she saw the creation of the universe for now, let's move on to the following scenes. She observed the earth begin to exist, the first living being, the first humans, etc. Ok, the context is that she is there in person, as we see her see the creation of the earth in space, but from this we are shown a view of her on earth, as we can see this by the way the background with the blue sky is shown. , showing that she is no longer in space, so looking at what was shown, she demonstrates seeing such events personally and up close while the manga shows what she saw, be it the first human beings or the creation of the earth. So what is shown of her talking about seeing the creation of the universe is her seeing the beginning of the Big Bang, since if she were so far away that the energy of the big Bang could be equated to the 8-C level or similar, it would already be the expansion of the universe.. and not her creation, which would contradict the entire context that was shown of Ajimu's sentence and the context shown by the following scenes. We can say that it was at least close and tier 3-A would be guaranteed here.
Furthermore, in the description of the Big Bang wiki page it says: "Surviving a Low 2-C Big Bang isn't a Universe level+ feat in durability due to the non-physical nature of such an event. However, this ideally only applies to Big Bangs as natural events, instead of attacks with a destructive capacity independent of their size and tier."
That means a character can't scale with the Big Bang which was a natural event, right? Therefore, Ajimu Najimi would not be the exception to the rule.
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ith all this clarified, I suggest that it would be better to change her classification from "likely Universe level" to just Unknown.
This only applies to Big Bang Low 2-C where the creation of space and time is something metaphysical, which is not the case as Medaka box's Big Bang is 3-A and this was mentioned in Debunk and this is still accepted, being the problem that the distance was supposedly unknown, I don't even need to talk about this point but it's good to remember
Creating a supposed Big Bang that would create all the space of a universe or its space and time through a physical explosion is a 3-A feat, and grants Explosion Manipulation, limited Spatial Manipulation and limited Time Manipulation. Surviving such an event from its center or near it is a Universe level feat in durability, but like in all explosions, the further away one is from the center, the least of its power is withstood.
Now I want to talk about the skills that vs Battle disregards for somewhat meaningless reasons.
likely far higher (Stated to be able to "become god", "transcend dimensions", and "control infinity", among many other abilities, however the veracity of these claims is unknown)
Which honestly should be changed to "possibly Low 1-A" since we are talking about a possibility and the level of power to transcend dimensions is Low 1-A
But continuing... Here it talks about being possibly bigger, but it's a bit strange to say that they have an unknown veracity. In the scans themselves, Ajimu shows herself using some of the skills she describes, we see her using lightning and one of the skills she mentions in the Scan is precisely the ability to use lightning, in another, she mentions an ability to transform into a monster and on the page itself she is like a monster, this happens with all the scans she describes her abilities with her demonstrating one of the skills she mentions. Furthermore, there is a clear relationship between the skills she mentions and the ones she demonstrates, for example, he mentions being able to control her speed and strength and in the work he demonstrates this as her being able to use skills that are multipliers that multiply a characteristic, like magic. or sword skills, showing that the skills she cites are related to. you literally left bone manipulation via one of these scenes but want to disregard other information given on the same page just because.
Also, things seem to be missing from his profile that would be interesting to add, let's start with Plot Manipulation Hax, Ajimu can clearly change the theme of the work or even change the protagonist, like, This is literally mentioned as one of the phrases of the character on the vs Battle page. And the work, as already mentioned on Medaka's page, is a metafictional parody manga, literally Medaka is just not considered universal thanks to this, so there is no reason to say that Ajimu is not being literal here. She is also spoken of as being fair to the plot. Ajimu is actually called Ashin'in San, and the interesting thing is that the name of the creator of the work is Ishin, Ajimu's name being just the feminine version of his name and in addition she is spoken with more authority than the author, Ajimu I planned to transform the fighting manga into a romantic comedy manga.
We can also mention that Hanten Shiranui, who is Ajimu's partner, can grant plot manipulation to Zenkichi
Ajimu is shown as superior to the verse several times, first she is clearly shown to be holding back for the good of the work, such as turning off her omniscience to be fair to the work, Ajimu also lets herself be affected by other characters, such as Kamugawa saying who only managed to seal Ajimu because she let him seal him, yes he may have even managed to seal an exact copy of her, but Ajimu is fair to the script and if he were to actually manage to seal her, Ajimu wouldn't need to let him seal her in the first place, since he would hypothetically have the capacity to do so. Ajimu is tough that she would survive Hanten in all probability. Hanten also states that Ajimu is unique and that his ability to create ability is nothing but a shadow to hers and the possibility is said that he was apparently sealed but came out on his own, so him being inferior to Ajimu would also prove her to be above the seal and be left sealed of its own accord.
Ajimu is also called Omnipotent, all-powerful or even the Transcendental character, being very consistent with her having the greatest feats and quotes in the work, having a huge gap between the other characters and her, with her doing whatever she wants in the plot and limiting herself on purpose for the good of the work, even on the character's page in this Wiki she is accepted as the strongest in the verse.
As I have already shown to Scan, Ajimu is said to be the type of character who is above the author, making his statements super valid, with everything that has been elaborated it is safe to say that there is no reason to doubt the veracity of Ajimu's abilities or his superiority. insane above the other characters, we have no reason to limit her to the same level as the others, so her description of her abilities are 100% valid, due to her ability to Transcend Dimensions, she could be placed with the Low 1-A tier since quotes like that even without much context would put it in this tier.
Ajimu goes from one dimension to another, as mentioned in Hanten's Profile, which if we consult the range system, reaching interdimensional is above High 3-A, so Ajimu's feat would be infinite speed.
Interdimensional: Attacks and abilities that can reach beyond the conventional space-time of a single universe, into external pocket realities or parts of other universes, but that can't travel a universal distance, can't affect multiple of these other realities at the same time, and can't reach into other multiverses or higher constructs.
Ajimu went beyond the space and time of the universe to go to another, so infinite speed as I said.
In short, remove Debunk 3-A, make Ajimu's abilities completely valid, add immeasurable speed to Ajimu since he could reach a Low 1-A level of existence and add Ajimu's haxs to his skill list and Plot manipulation together and infinite speed if correct.
Well, most of the scans and the reason I'm here are from my web friend who I mentioned, so credits to ajimuOFC.