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How far into the zettatons is Aizen and Ichigo exactly?
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LSirLancelotDuLacl said:He's comparable to people that scale above baseline 5-B many times over. Either make a CRT or don't argue about something you obviously don't know about.
like who? yamamoto? yhwach? ichigo? because none of them classify as "5-B" except yhwach, or at least not by feats.
Irrelevant. If you have a problem with how we get our statistics, again, go make a CRT to change our standards or to change Aizen's stats. The issue has been argued a lot, you disbelieving it changes nothing. Feel free to not agree, it really changes nothing.
Never said I had a problem, I just don't think Aizen is planet level. And the fact that his power level has been argued doesn't make him being planet level (even in AP) valid at all. At best his AP should be country/maybe continental range (but that's kinda highball).
He has only negated mid regen, which is pathetically below Low Godly. He's negating nothing unless you wanna use NLF claims.
there's nothing to suggest his regen ability can't work on "low - godly" Regenerationn especially due to his cutting feats so far. Plus, level of regen doesn't matter. He slows down Regenerationn regardless, no matter how fast/well a character can regen. That's the point of his power and it doesn't exactly work in a NLF sense
note: i always make this mistake, but i did mean to say "slows down regen" rather than negates it, my bad
Again, why is this match even a thing? Aizen AP stomps, is equal or way better in pure combat skill, has Kido and Low Godly that Ata can't negate. What's Ata supposed to do? Hmm the thing is even if i was to accept your claims and say aizen has planet level AP, Ata is already casually planet level, so AP is kind of irrelevant here. Aizen is more skilled but Ata's faster and the strength gap is too much. He'd probably break aizen's sword if they parried tbh. Kido is good for sealing iirc but ata can still blitz and oneshot before aizen gets the chance. He's already shown that even with his regen, he struggles against stronger opponents
1. Aizen tanked Yhwach's reiatsu wave without a scrath.AstralKing7 said:Characters? How is he comparable to Ichigo in the first place. That's the question at hand because he effortlessly got stomped by Yhwach.
If you are good enough to use a high level Kido, you are good enough to use the lower level ones, people just have some specific ones they use more like Aizen and his Black Cage.Rocker1189 said:I don't think Aizen has a lot of seals apart from that one binding light thing so if someone can tell me what other seals he has shown I would be grateful atm though it is at best for Ata inconclusive. But most likely goes to Aizen due to regen, AP and greater versatility.
...I thought that was reiatsu crush, which is soul based... which doesnot rely on AP which does not work on Ata.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:Aizen could prob disintegrate Ata with his presence. He's like 18x stronger in AP.
Ok..but what seals are we talking about? And which ones has he ever used in character, ust because you can do somethiing does not mean you would.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:If you are good enough to use a high level Kido, you are good enough to use the lower level ones, people just have some specific ones they use more like Aizen and his Black Cage.
Meaning that you can just go look at the Bakuda list of kidos, Aizen can use the majority, if not all.
Oh really proof please?Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:@Rocker
Nope, you're right about Soul Crush but I'm talking about something else. Aizen can disintegrate people in his presence.
He did it to fodder shinigami and random objects and it did not even affect Shunsui who is not even tier 5 let alone 5-B.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:Proof is he became transcendent disintegrated objects close to him, and when he was sealed in his chair if you got to close to him he can disintegrate you as shown when he did it to that Shinigami.
Doesn't matter if he's done it against other 5-B or not, what matters is the AP gap which is about 18x here which is well over the 7.5x AP stomp threshold unless Ata's durability scales above Aizens AP of course.
Aizen is a Genius with expert handling of Kido with only the likes of Mayuri and Urahara matching and, in ways, exceeding him.Rocker1189 said:Ok..but what seals are we talking about? And which ones has he ever used in character, ust because you can do somethiing does not mean you would.
Exactly I said ti abovee.AppleLord said:Shunsui who isn't even base planet level survive been near Aizen more than twice. They have to be like a stomp match for reiatsu crush to work, like JOJO characters.
At least give me a sealing example mate. And without proof sorry but he does not even have sealing in his profile.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:Aizen is a Genius with expert handling of Kido with only the likes of Mayuri and Urahara matching and, in ways, exceeding him.
If he realizes that he can't kill him, he will seal. He hasn't done this before because he's confident in his strength and nobody he's battled literally can't die no matter what he does. The moment this is not the case, he's not gonna be so much of an idiot that he won't change tactics, especially when Aizen is so skilled at and regularly uses Kido.
That literally does not matter you still have no proof.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:Shunsui didn't get that close to him.
I mean idk what to tell you, by definition Ata is vastly unpowered here based off the ratings. And this ability works on people deemed inferior. 1,000x is irrelevant since on this wiki 7.5 is needed to one shot.
Sorry but where is it accepted, and again without proof of it affecting a 5-B that is just completely blowing his abilities out od proprtion, he did not even affect a tier 6.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:@Rocker
I don't understand your point lol. It's literally something that's already accepted that he can disintegrate people a lot weaker than him. 18x is a lot weaker.
Mid-regen isn't a problem at all, a casual swing from Aizen's sword would obliterate Ata...