Ainchase Ishmael vs Archie Illumina

[ShadowWarrior1999]

How about using one of the lesser known Archie characters on here? Both are 2-A, Herrscher Ainchase is used. Who wins?

Ainchase Ishmael (Herrscher Path): 0

Illumina (Archie Comics): 1 (TheImagineBreaker121212)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[MYHERO]

What do these two lead with? Can type 2 conceptual manipulation take care of mid godly regen?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yes, conceptual manipulation bypasses Mid-Godly.

We never see Illumina herself in an actual fight, but her dark half Void was corrupting and erasing Maginaryworld with his mere presence.

As for Ainchase, I know he has corruption abilities himself, but IDK anything else about him.

 

[MYHERO]

Nice. Hm. They both have ways to incap each other. I'm gonna wait for more input from the others before I press the inconclusive button.

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

illumina can destroy/manip. extra dimensional properties and nexus of realities, I calls dibs on her winning....

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Waiting Kaze to come here.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Concept Manip Type 2 doesn't explicitly bypass mid-godly, though if their particular brand does then that's cool.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

@Mr. Bambu Depends on the level of Mid-Godly.

If the Mid-Godly is "I can come back even after having my concept erased" then conceptual manipulation doesn't bypass it.

 

[VoidGoji]

Ainchase got back from being erased on a 4-D level even in base, before Lofty: Wanderer even came into existence. Also, Herrscher leads with his passive multiversal existence erasure + corruption that works even on type 1 non-existent beings. Since he is "void/non-existence", existence is erased when it somehow gets in contact with non-existence. Plus, Chaos and Entropy are the very concepts of destruction of both physical (Anything that can be classified as bound by space-time) and non-physical/ethereal (the opposite of the former.), both of which Herrcher has total control over.


Theres also the fact that Herrscher is on a "higher level" of non-existence, being unaffected by things that would normally affect type 1 non-existent beings. And theres Henir, a god who existed before non-existence and exists on a higher level, transcending space-time and its concepts (basically a High 2-A), fuelling Herrscher

 

[MYHERO]

Ainchase

 

[XDragnoir]

Ain FRA.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Bump