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Darkanine said:
@Hykuu
The beings were visibly slowed to a crawl during it, and when The Lich was stopped, the beings were able to move again. It's probably some form of time manipulation.
That can still be perception manip lol
 
We should just stick with Universe as in "Reality" instead of Multiverse here. Outside of the comics, nothing implies that Bubblegum is aware of infinite realities out there, and she seems to deny idea of the Multiverse in the Enchiridion.

Btw. characters such as Finn being placed at Universal+ wouldn't be a stretch either. I may do post about it after doing my Catalyst Comet blog
 
But regarding Finn stuff

I'd need to take a further look on that, but Multiverse+ Orgalorg, Lich and Hunson is somewhat understandable since they all classifies as Primordial Monsters


The thing that I am iffy on though, is "True Form" Finn, I don't recall anything saying he is an Multiversal constant, just going by the artwork isn't much of a justification here. Meaning of the artworks is something that would require a complete separate thread to discuss about.
 
So guys I was thinking some AT characters needed some profiles here ( mainly Lady Rainacorn,Huntress Wizard and maybe BMO)

Dark seemed down with the first 2 at least
 
Well Lich's hand says that he bested him in many worlds after he duplicated to every universe in the multiverse which implies that Finn is a hero across the multiverse but that has never been directly stated to my knowledge
 
And yeah I agree with the profiles addition, especially for BMO and Huntress Wizard

I have some calc for BMO on my drive so I may post it later
 
Y'know. 2-A Finn and co. through scalling to the Primordial Monsters would be really nice, although, are we sure they retained the same Timeless / "Multiversal" nature after the creation of the Multiverse? There are many examples in fiction where a Timeless and Infinite being becomes limited and restricted upon entering a place with Time, or after the formation of Existence

Like, I can legitimately name 1-As who became High 1-Bs upon the creation of the concept of Time, the Daemons from Warhammer also come to mind.
 
The real question ( basically what Ultima said ) is does anything contradict that they lost their AP after the creation of time ? And... What about the Vampire King ? I can actually see Finn and the High-God Tiers scaling to that.

Darren also implies it somewhat as well for some to scale to 2-A potentially
 
Not sure if anything implies that they got nerfed after the formation of the Multiverse, Hunson was still depicted as timeless in the cartoon itself if I remember correctly

However if such thing would be accepted, we would just end up with separate key for the big three
 
Darren's abillities are a bit vague when it comes to affecting "all the realities", it would scale to his range rather than Attack potency itself
 
I don't think Hunson was ever implied to be Timeless other than Marceline stating that he is "Deathless", but I may be misremembering, so feel free to correct me.

And Yeah, Darren's Existence Erasure would only apply to his range, not raw power, and him stating that he can "affect all realities" with his power is a bit vague
 
No that was another instance, I would still require to get my hands on any transcript or something to confirm, I'm not sure myself.
 
IIRC the AT encyclopedia implies Hunson might have lived though the Big Bang since he's lived since before he could remember time or something like that

Also are we gonna scale people to Jakes Big Bang feat?
 
I would also like to bring up how Jake had access to a time machine created by PB which effiectively can reset the timeline as much as he likes, shown in issue 7 of the comic book

https://***************.to/Comic/Adventure-Time/Issue-7?id=23828

https://***************.to/Comic/Adventure-Time/Issue-9?id=23830

Here it is stated in issue 9, just by putting some science goo to make finn and jake youngershe said she has to be safe since this goo could destroy the entire space and time continuum apparently.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394158264700370944/430367529064595467/RCO024_1468876290.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394158264700370944/430367528368472074/RCO025_1468876290.jpg

Here, Princess bubblegum states that the multiverse has infinite realities, right after that she explains how time traveling could destroy all of reality (The last panel of the last scan is actually the first panel of a page 3-4 pages from that one, the destruction is already taking plaee apparently)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...26334503845899/Screenshot_20180318-224708.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...26435204890624/Screenshot_20180318-224657.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...26517400403969/Screenshot_20180318-224718.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...26566972882946/Screenshot_20180318-224724.jpg

(tfw, Shit, i accidently leaked my DMs instead of the scans lol.)


Then we have this statement, pretty self explanatory


https://archive.org/stream/Adventur...(LostNerevarine-Empire) (1)#page/n35/mode/2up

and then here Jake states when he reads the enchidirion, he can form these giant universes in his head (does this scale?), then we have the pillow dimension feat

there is also him moving in Golbs realm, the time room, twice, which might qualify for infinite to immeasurable speed.

Also him being capable of fighting god tiers like Magic man, who are FAR above gogogogglgoggblob (the 4 faced alien guy not orgalorg), who was capable of stopping the comet by charging at it without dying, which iirc was stated to be universal, or scaling off the other red comet orgalorg was targeting which is 2-A, could also be 2-A, we also have the red comet proving Lich and Finn are the same being, so both scale to each other. not to mention Finn also already bodied orgalorg, who was feeding off the comet at that point (thnx teren)

though, 5D finn is a stretch, as we have seen versions of him in other timelines, and past present and future which would debunk him being 5D, this shouldn't effect CI merged Finn though.
 
I remember reading those comics a while ago all this is very very interesting great finds man

Oh and while non canon Pirates of the Enchidirion has Bubblegum saying there are several alternative universes with several enchidirions

So this seems fairly consistent across AT media
 
There is definitely some stuff i missed, also i would like to point out how finn should have massive resistance to Death manipulation inverse.


He was banished from Death on a basically conceptual level (Cus death the character is obvs the literal concept of death itself) since he was a friend of peppermint butler, who should also have this, since he was also implied in the same scan of being banished from Death (Season 2 Episode 9)
 
Oh yeah also the comic has like 75 issue, and I'm not even done with 20

prolly can find some multiversal feats beyond that if anyone wants to read it aswell.
 
NANI

https://***************.to/Comic/Adventure-Time/Issue-17?id=23782#28

(Ending of the comic) Finn using one of PB's experiments (a gum) creates a entire universe in his gum, known as "Bubbleverse"

also, "Silly String Theory" ?????????????????????

Then we have how Simon said Marceline has a higher string vibration in the other half of her body, same book where she was stated to be above space time

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
https://***************.to/Comic/Adventure-Time/Issue-20?id=23786#16

Page 23

Apparently Jake can become as small as atoms and rearrange them, he can also literally cover the entire planet.
 
https://***************.to/Comic/Adventure-Time/Issue-25?id=23791#34

Marceline and PB have a child together

????????????????????????
 
Unless they describe the multiverse as 11-D, then I wouldn't upgrade CI to High 1-C.
 
Well, I think there should be a sort of direct conclusion as to if a string theory multiverse makes something High 1-C, as without it Lord english would only be 7-D, as far as I know there' never been a direct conclusion either way.
 
11D is because the verse runs on string theory, the verse doesn't have to explictly state the fact that 11 dimensions exist, if it says string theory applies to the verse, and string theory suggests a 11 dimensional multiverse, It would be logical that the multiverse would be 11 dimensional even without the statement of 11 dimensions existing, you get the idea.
 
How does the events from the comic fits into the timeline though? From what I've read that's the main problem with its canonicity
 
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