Adjusting Son Goku Tier and others.

[PridedWaif]

According to Super Manga and Anime. I believe it's safe to put Beside Som Goku Name possibly higher than 3-A for 1 In Anime he was able to erase Merged Zamasu holy light and damage him to a demilitarized look. 2 in the manga Goku was able to fight evenly now with Merged Zamasu. Remember Black Goku SSR x Zamasu. Anime : SSR Black > Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Zamasu, plus he has infinite power rising because he improved the cells of the Saiyans Zenkai. Future Zamasu was only SSB level from Episode 57. They fused and Became very powerful to where Zamasu even Amps himself yet in the manga Goku fights evenly with him at 100% and In Anime Goku was hurting him, beat him in a beam struggle, and erased his light. Mind you these characters are far beyond SSG Goku that fought A heavily suppressed Beerus. Goku has gotten much stronger since BOG Arc. Training with Whis, Zenkai from Beerus unrestrained sleeping ki blast, Beerus stated Goku has gotten stronger, Trained in Whis God Realm, Zenkai From Battling Golden Freeza, Trained in the ROSAT with Vegeta for 3 years, Zenkai during the U6 Tournament, Gotten Stronger in The Potafu Arc stated by Goku and Vegeta, Trained Some More in Future Trunks Saga and gained Zenkais throughout the Arc, Hit Stated He's gotten much stronger Goku states vice versa for Hit, Trains again multiple times in the current ToP Arc. Mind you as well The Heaven is as big as the Mortal Universe and You have the flip side coin of the Mortal Universe which is the Demon Realm/Universe. Kaioshin Realm is 1/10th of the universe and is on the outskirts. Goku is much far beyond SSG level now. 3-A is a lowball for him at this point.

People it's safe to say Goku is 3-A possibly Higher now. Also, the other characters like Beerus, Vegeta, Vegito, Toppo, and etc., should get an update as well.


Sorry, I had posted this in the wrong thread but couldn't delete it.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Right thread. However, 3-A is a tier that extends to infinity. You can't just jump it with pure strength. Infinite physical matter is needed for High 3-A, and timespace destruction on a universal scale for Low 2-C. You can't get "possibly" for that. Also, he's high on the 3-A scale, but not that high. There are characters in this tier who are universal by snapping

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Yeah I agree with this. The thing is 3-A is a very large tier ranging from someone like Android 17 to Daishinkan which is one of the strongest of them all steps behind Zen'o. So as you can see Goku is still 3-A but a much stronger 3-A than before since like I said the gap of low bounds and high bounds of 3-A are vastly high. High 3-A is something on a whole another level.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Cal beat me to it. Without infinite power or space-time destruction, there is literally no chance to be anything higher than 3-A.

 

[PridedWaif]

True enough but there wouldn't be a universe of Universe 7 that's a macrocosm anymore if goku didn't learn to control his Power. That was a weaker counterpart of Goku. Also it was stated there would be no U7 at all so meaning no time or space anymore because it all would be destroyed as stated. Time/Space is just a 3rd dimensional man made concept. Gods of Destruction themselves put in an end to not one Universe but more than one if they fight. Zeno wiped out the entire Future Multiverse. So no, Goku wouldn't scale up to Daishinlan to Zeno at all. Nowhere even close. Not to mention the Void is infinite and Zeno can wipe it out if he wants. Don't see how Goku scale up to Zeno at all cause he wouldn't lol.

 

[Dark649]

It's better to wait after the tournament before upgrading Goku according to the Discussion Rules.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

It's better to wait after the tournament before upgrading Goku according to the Discussion Rules.

Goku won't really getting a big upgrade here. Hey may be much stronger than before but there's no way he's going beyond 3-A apparently.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Byakuya I wouldn't rule it out, but as of now he isn't moving. If someone gets a space-time destruction feat and Goku matches that, he could move.

 

[PridedWaif]

I guess, but yet we see Black Rip into reality and started bending and manipulating it to his well lol and he's nowhere near Beerus, or not stronger than Current Goku.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@Byakuya I think that the upgrade will be regarding lower tiered characters such as Gohan and the rest who where able to keep up with Base and SSJB Goku and see how they do in the tournament.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Yeah but I doubt someone will pull out an impressive hax easily making them higher than 3-A. I mean Hit has a pretty decent hax but he aint going higher than 3-A as far as I'm concern.

 

[PridedWaif]

Eh this is real controversial. The Void is infinite so if Goku even shake a supposedly infinite realm of nothing i think it will be even more evidence to stack towards him having a possible next to his name. Also yeah @super saiyan julian the lower tier characters like 17 should get a minor upgrade. He's at least SSB level without trying.