In Nature, for some reason Causality, Fate, Probability, Law and Logic are listed apart of abstract existence? It's just time power being capable of governing those aspects doesn't mean time power itself are those. So I suggest axing most of the AE aspects with the exception of Concept type 1.
I hate IMGUR I can’t see any scans so I had to use another method.
So from what I’m getting at the OP has specified initially that he thinks Time merely holds dominion over the metaphysical aspects which are present on the
terminology page. OP hasn’t even provided any actual combating of why he believes that these aspects don’t essentially act as puzzles which piece Time.
Conclusion 3 and 4 seems to conflict each other. C3 mentions Time is apart of History as Time can shape History and History is apart of Causality/Fate. But C4 mentions Causality/Fate being a lesser metaphysical aspect than Time.
I'm not sure if things can be apart of each other while one considered to be much inferior.
That’s why I recommend you reach out to supporters instead of making this downgrade thread. It would’ve been easier to consult Vietthai or post your question in either, the Dragon Ball Game’s discussion thread or the All Purpose Dragon Ball thread. Someone or a few people would’ve been happy to help you or guide you without any issues. I would understand if you didn’t want to consult Vietthai due to response times varying but that to me would have been all the more reason to reach out to people who are most accessible and approachable.
There’s no conflicting here. To be honest, I haven’t come across standards in which lesser metaphysical aspects can’t act as individual building blocks where when connected creates a more predominant or superior metaphysical aspect. This is why indexing exists. I could understand if we were referencing a verse that has no extrapolation or detailing on this matter but that isn’t the case here. This may be semantics but it actually fits with what the topic of discussion is about. Over
here, the Elder Kai mentions how when the egg hatches it marks the existence of a whole new timeline. Even calling it “magnificent.” In this context it’s not even all that surprising since it has unique features of possessing Time energy despite being in egg form or a dormant state. Time power, which just like time scrolls are a manifestation of
Time which also has qualities of
shaping history and creating timelines.
Timeline/History/Space-Time are all synonymous. This wouldn’t be possible if Time only took on the role of being a higher authority compared to history.
We wouldn’t even assume by default that governance over lesser aspects indicates AE1, the same way we wouldn’t give Super Concepts the abilities of standardised Concepts which has control over lesser aspects such as the Mind.
Causality or in simple translation, a flow of events. What is meant by flow of events? A line of event(s) plural, meaning more than one instance of timeline(s). Fu who is perceived as reliable even gives his
brief explanation of events. Here are two translations;
“History is a flow of events that are connected to each other”
“History is a series of (different) events that come together to form a flow.”
Both translations confirm the usage of “history” which also confirms there is no separation or contradiction between Time/History (Space-Time, Timelines)/Events (Causality). Without history, there’s no flow of events or connection. There’s also no birth of a timeline from the process of TokiToki hatching from their egg since it lacks the main components to form a timeline. We also know that causality/events isn’t some made up aspect or impotent due to the existence of
parallel quests. “Parallel” referring to alternate timelines, those quests being events, instances or even storylines if you will.
With fate we already have two scans. One scan being very blatant with saying TokiToki controls fate. The other with SKOT Chronoa having an ability called manipulated fate, keep in mind Supreme Kai’s Of Time utilise Time Power, we have already established that Time Power is manifested from Time so it is apart of Time. If I’m not wrong it was due to fate and Time itself that Demigra was able to hold the position of a SKOT but i could be wrong. Luck and possibilities, possibilities being a set of timelines with a set amount of histories which encompass events. Each history holding different events, luck acting as somewhat of a catalyst which boosts or is vital for progression and endpoints of said timelines. History is shaped by luck and time both of which are abstract and considered metaphysical aspects. They are both a big component when it comes to progressing, finalising and bringing into existence.
In conclusion I disagree with the thread. I think Time and TokiToki itself have enough evidence on being AE1. It also helps when there’s statements of TokiToki being born with Time energy, Time energy being a manifestation of Time just like the time scrolls, Time governing and embodying a large quantity of aspects mentioned formerly and TokiToki being the sole existence for all of creation. When you theoretically kill TokiToki you cease the existence of everything that contributes to Time. Plus if I’m not wrong, TokiToki being killed would only lead to another TokiToki going through the whole process of being born with Time energy and eventually hatching, causing the existence of a fresh timeline. He’s effectively immortal which is one of the requirements for AE1 shown on the AE page.
I hate VBW on mobile my original piece was a lot longer and had more scans but it got deleted since I tabbed out
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