Acausality type 4 and type 5

[Sniper670]

Two questions :
1. If Aca 4 operates on a different causality system, doesn't that make them immune or at least highly resistant to regular causality? Meaning attacking them won't yield the regular causality response, no?

2.Does predating existence and the laws/concepts/systems grant Aca 5? Basically existing before causality even existed

 

[Vietthai96]

1. They operating under different causality system mean they resist to normal causality, fate, probability hax. But you still can interact with them normally like interacting with people under normal causality system......that what currently is on our site
2. No, normally you can get type 1 and type 2 with that kind of context i think. At best it is type 4. type 5 require extremely strong evidences

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

^To add to that, essentially Acausality type 4 protects you from certain types of hax depending on the context but it doesn't stop someone from being able to perceive or harm you meanwhile Acausality type 5 is straight up invulnerability+1 but requires incredibly blatant in your face proof of causality transcendence with next to no anti-feats (I think almost every character on the wiki with type 5 explicitly mentions cause and effect in their jurisdiction, one way or another). Simply predating existence, reality, laws, etc doesn't grant anything quantifiable without major context.

 

[Sniper670]

1. They operating under different causality system mean they resist to normal causality, fate, probability hax. But you still can interact with them normally like interacting with people under normal causality system......that what currently is on our site

Ive got a unique case:

It's a world where logic doesn't apply, which is everything from causality to physics. Time and space don't exist there. Even interacting with it is almost impossible, unless allowed. Well the entire place is the being's abstract self

What type of acausality is this ?

2. No, normally you can get type 1 and type 2 with that kind of context i think. At best it is type 4. type 5 require extremely strong evidences

Is this Aca 5? Seems like Aca 4 to me but it was accepted as Aca 5. The character I described above has almost the exact same description.

 

[Sniper670]

^To add to that, essentially Acausality type 4 protects you from certain types of hax depending on the context but it doesn't stop someone from being able to perceive or harm you meanwhile Acausality type 5 is straight up invulnerability+1 but requires incredibly blatant in your face proof of causality transcendence with next to no anti-feats (I think almost every character on the wiki with type 5 explicitly mentions cause and effect in their jurisdiction, one way or another). Simply predating existence, reality, laws, etc doesn't grant anything quantifiable without major context.

I guess that makes sense.... So even if you're described exactly as type 5, but others can interact with you/anti feats, you'll get type 4?

 

[Le'garde273]

Iirc i have ever asking about this, if there is character who predates everything such as laws of causality and concept just like arceus.
its just grant aca 4 (maybe high degree for fully outside laws and causality) and resistance to cm

 

[Sniper670]

Iirc i have ever asking about this, if there is character who predates everything such as laws of causality and concept just like arceus.
its just grant aca 4 (maybe high degree for fully outside laws and causality) and resistance to cm

He created the DW, which doesn't apply the laws/systems/rules he created in the other world.

He exists beyond both regular and irregular causality anyways. Which I guess would be above baseline then ?