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Acausality/EE/regeneration for Sinbad

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Lormac_CC said:
Actually no, Solomon system is till just a part of illah's system. Read David memoir again. Solomon advanced the world because illah had designed it like that
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Isn't it more like solomon formatted the system illah created?
 
Tatsumi504 said:
It would be physical EE right? Cause the current one makes it seem like soul level EE
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Both, the only reason sinbad could keep his soul is because the higher gods will it so.
Actually killing someone in the verse is simply returning them to rukh.
So its a verse mechanics EE
 
Dread said:
why soul? For me it sounds like conceptual one lol
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It seems like soul because a persons rukh is basically their soul/mind until they return to the great flow and lose their individuality.

Deconstruction is breaking something down into smaller physical constituents/ energy. Rukh is metaphyaical in this case so turning them into rukh would be EE but only physical EE
 
Pain_to12 said:
Both, the only reason sinbad could keep his soul is because the higher gods will it so.
Actually killing someone in the verse is simply returning them to rukh.
So its a verse mechanics EE
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But who is that someone? Do you have a scan?
 
Pain_to12 said:
Both, the only reason sinbad could keep his soul is because the higher gods will it so.
Actually killing someone in the verse is simply returning them to rukh.
So its a verse mechanics EE
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It only becomes soul level when they return to the great flow (lose their individuality).
It's a verse mechanic. Outside the verse, this will only be physical EE.

Also, it wasn't just because of higher gods. His djinn kept a portion of his rukh from returning to the great flow
 
low-godly: After Sinbad died his Ruhk returned to the Great Flow and according to Arba returning to the Ruhk means becoming nothing but Sinbad was able to return to life thanks to the will of the Magi Gods).

This justification needs to be changed, maybe the gods made Sinbad a god but he was resurrected by David and his djinns
 
Dread said:
But who is that someone? Do you have a scan?
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like dying in the verse is returning to rukh, something similar to afterlife, but in this case you lose your individuality in the process
Tatsumi504 said:
It only becomes soul level when they return to the great flow (lose their individuality).
It's a verse mechanic. Outside the verse, this will only be physical EE.

Also, it wasn't just because of higher gods. His djinn kept a portion of his rukh from returning to the great flow
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Yes, that will be correct, also this in not battle applicable
 
Pain_to12 said:
Let me clarify, I am saying returning someone to rukh is EE and not deconstruction, but he needs justification of actually returning someone to rukh
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It should actually be deconstruction actually, as it is breaking down the physical form into the base unit of reality that is Rukh, it is still a form of deconstruction rather than just pure EE, and Sacred Palace Sinbad and those who use the Sacred Palaced should get it, given the angels Sinbad sent down that returned things to the Rukh.
 
deonment said:
It should actually be deconstruction actually, as it is breaking down the physical form into the base unit of reality that is Rukh, it is still a form of deconstruction rather than just pure EE, and Sacred Palace Sinbad and those who use the Sacred Palaced should get it, given the angels Sinbad sent down that returned things to the Rukh.
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Ya incase it is same like anime has shown, this is indeed deconstruction
 
Lormac_CC said:
low-godly: After Sinbad died his Ruhk returned to the Great Flow and according to Arba returning to the Ruhk means becoming nothing but Sinbad was able to return to life thanks to the will of the Magi Gods).

This justification needs to be changed, maybe the gods made Sinbad a god but he was resurrected by David and his djinns
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May I know from where his immortality come from? It is not shown in his profile
 
I would just like to note Sinbad's regen would still be low-godly however, as it is still regenerating from a complete loss of the physical self
 
deonment said:
I would just like to note Sinbad's regen would still be low-godly however, as it is still regenerating from a complete loss of the physical self
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Ya we are not removing his regeneration, we are changing it from mid godly to low godly.
 
deonment said:
It should actually be deconstruction actually, as it is breaking down the physical form into the base unit of reality that is Rukh, it is still a form of deconstruction rather than just pure EE, and Sacred Palace Sinbad and those who use the Sacred Palaced should get it, given the angels Sinbad sent down that returned things to the Rukh.
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But rukh is metaphysical not a physical thing. The only problem is everything being made up of rukh makes it seem like a structural something.
 
deonment said:
It should actually be deconstruction actually, as it is breaking down the physical form into the base unit of reality that is Rukh, it is still a form of deconstruction rather than just pure EE, and Sacred Palace Sinbad and those who use the Sacred Palaced should get it, given the angels Sinbad sent down that returned things to the Rukh.
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Rukh is not the the smallest unit of life but rather the cause of all things in existence.
So it is not really deconstruction, it will still be a form EE, deconstruction deals with breaking something down.
And also return to rukh means death, so no one is getting it.
Since once someone dies no matter the cause, they return to rukh.
If heaven or hell exists, I am not going to gain BFR just because I shot someone and the soul leaves earth to go to heaven or hell.
It is a verse mechanics
 
So no one here is telling me Sinbad immortality type 8 is relied on? Singularity is literally NLF and vague.
 
I think it is in the OP already, and that is fine, I actually agree with that.

He loses, aca 4 and also the EE. and the mid-godly to type8/low-godly
 
Pain_to12 said:
There was no statement of them existing outside causality or anything similar, that was a mistake on my part, so that can be removed now
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Dang.. thanks for clarifying alright it makes sense. I need thread modedator to move this to content revision
 
Dread said:
@Pain_to12 Mind checking the OP thread now?
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Thought we said he should keep the EE but only physical level? You also didn't give the justification gor type 8 immortality and low godly regeneration.

Type 8 comes from his djinn keeping a part of his rukh from joining the great flow, non-combat applicable low godly regeneration is from needing David to revive him (low-godly because he didn't return to the rukh, meaning his individuality wasn't erased
 
Pain_to12 said:
He does not have deconstruction or EE too, he never returned anyone to rukh directly.
Dying is returning to rukh, so killing someone means returning to rukh

The rest of the OP is fine
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The angels or whatever they were ( them creepy ass Mf's) were returning the world to the rukh
 
Tatsumi504 said:
The angels or whatever they were ( them creepy ass Mf's) were returning the world to the rukh
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But how is that relevant tho? He aint using it against the angels, regardless, I got no scans as well
 
Tatsumi504 said:
You also didn't give the justification gor type 8 immortality and low godly regeneration.

Type 8 comes from his djinn keeping a part of his rukh from joining the great flow, non-combat applicable low godly regeneration is from needing David to revive him (low-godly because he didn't return to the rukh, meaning his individuality wasn't erased
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I really asked it before, no one dropped a good justification but thanks, I will edit this, but also removing EE.
 
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