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Absolute Universe DC Comics Discussion Thread

Bumping this cause there's more Absolute universe feats. I'll be sure to compile some of them and add them here
i also started doing profiles and calcs for the verse on another wiki so might bring some stuff
 
I think absolute Supes has a Town to City level (and probably even to Island level?) feat in his latest issue.
 
The new Absolute MMH issue is absolutely bananas, might be my favorite so far and that's high praise.

There was a side thing for Absolute Batman, "Ark M", I didn't realize until now. Batman gets a Transonic-ish bullet reaction feat which is nice.

Absolute Flash is probably gonna be weird in VS matches, he's clearly Immeasurable but not in a way he can consistently control. Is it me or does he look older in the last panel?
 
Armorchompy said:
The new Absolute MMH issue is absolutely bananas, might be my favorite so far and that's high praise
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I’m only caught up on Absolute Superman (on issue 8 of Absolute Flash) and I gotta say I def need to hop on Manhunter
I’ve seen so much high praise I really should see what the hype is all about.
the art is already gorgeous so I’m excited to try it
 
Armorchompy said:
Absolute Flash is probably gonna be weird in VS matches, he's clearly Immeasurable but not in a way he can consistently control. Is it me or does he look older in the last panel?
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I don't feel he got older? I think that's just him looking angrier.

For the Immeasurable speed part, I think it's because he lacks control over his own powers rn. And honestly I really don't fw this version of Thawne at all. I get what they were going for but the execution of it just sucks.
 
The new Absolute MMH issue was honestly legendary though, probably my second favourite issue thus far. It seems even the "martians" can infiltrate the entire US government?

I like the Absolute Batman crossover over the Absolute Wonder Woman crossover. It honestly felt more organic in its placement and serves to further Bruce's development in the story.
 
Armorchompy said:
The new Absolute MMH issue is absolutely bananas, might be my favorite so far and that's high praise.
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Really got me “despairing”
Armorchompy said:
There was a side thing for Absolute Batman, "Ark M", I didn't realize until now. Batman gets a Transonic-ish bullet reaction feat which is nice.
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Yeah I saw that too, he cuts a bullet out the air
Armorchompy said:
Absolute Flash is probably gonna be weird in VS matches, he's clearly Immeasurable but not in a way he can consistently control. Is it me or does he look older in the last panel?
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Could be “up to Immeasurable”?
 
Hellbeast said:
Could be “up to Immeasurable”?
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Maybe, I think we just have to keep waiting until he learns how to control it a bit better. I doubt he's gonna have full control over it cause that'd break any kind of story (esp crossovers) but we'll see
 
Armorchompy said:
Maybe, I think we just have to keep waiting until he learns how to control it a bit better. I doubt he's gonna have full control over it cause that'd break any kind of story (esp crossovers) but we'll see
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Yeah I think it’s going to be a limited use thing to explain him going through certain high potency moments?

I do think he’ll get better control as we go like Superman is growing in power
 
Absolute Superman #16 previews dropped and they have probably the most blatant MHS+ (maybe even sub rel) feat of Kal possible but we don’t know the area he’s hovering above so it’s a bit of a RIP
 
Ozcantabak said:
What if we lowball it and say he was litterally in the middle of these 2 places (cleveland and omaha) ?
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Seems like a good idea.
Doesn’t seem like it’s between Cleveland and Omaha since Supes was in the stratosphere (so we’re getting a POV of hundreds of km in every direction) yet there’s not a trace of land at all in the double page spread. They’re over water. But Lake Michigan wouldn’t be that big, we’d be seeing the land area if they really were there since that lake is close to being in the middle of them.

So maybe a high end would be if Supes and Hawkman are over the Atlantic or Pacific coasts of the USA and then assuming he’s literally in the middle would be a low end.
Timeframe is at most 1-2 seconds there and back clearly both times.
 
Would this scale to c/r speed tho ? Cuz he seemingly blitzes Hawkman, even though they supposed to have a brawl out fight.
 
Ozcantabak said:
Would this scale to c/r speed tho ? Cuz he seemingly blitzes Hawkman, even though they supposed to have a brawl out fight.
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Pretty sure it should cause of the common sense that flying hundreds of kilometers, stopping, doing a Heimlich maneuver or whatever the heck to stop said person from choking and flying back would need Supes to be able to react to his own flight speeds. Since he’s flying on Earth and not in space. He’d likely crash into something if his reactions are only hypersonic. He doesn’t seem to struggle accelerating and stopping quickly either.

But Hawkman does seemingly get blitzed. if Hawkman is shown being able to fly after Kal in the issue and keep up. That’d be proof he is in his league and simply chose not to chase him down. Thus also combat speed.
If he doesn’t and Superman struggles against him then it should just be flight speed.
Or weirdest case scenario is that hawkman doesn’t scale at all to Kal and the covers were exaggerating how close it’d be. Then it’d be combat and reactions also.
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Pretty sure it should cause of the common sense that flying hundreds of kilometers, stopping, doing a Heimlich maneuver or whatever the heck to stop said person from choking and flying back would need Supes to be able to react to his own flight speeds. Since he’s flying on Earth and not in space. He’d likely crash into something if his reactions are only hypersonic. He doesn’t seem to struggle accelerating and stopping quickly either.

But Hawkman does seemingly get blitzed. if Hawkman is shown being able to fly after Kal in the issue and keep up. That’d be proof he is in his league and simply chose not to chase him down. Thus also combat speed.
If he doesn’t and Superman struggles against him then it should just be flight speed.
Or weirdest case scenario is that hawkman doesn’t scale at all to Kal and the covers were exaggerating how close it’d be. Then it’d be combat and reactions also.
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Got to doing a calc for a low and mid end. high end i'll do later. Likely will put the calc up for evaluation when the issue actually drops. But the feat is at the lowest Mach 3400 and Mach 4300 for the mid end. So MHS+ seemed about right. High ends would def be sub rel lmao

Edit: And there (some) of it is

 
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Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Got to doing a calc for a low and mid end. high end i'll do later. Likely will put the calc up for evaluation when the issue actually drops. But the feat is at the lowest Mach 3400 and Mach 4300 for the mid end. So MHS+ seemed about right. High ends would def be sub rel lmao

Edit: And there (some) of it is

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And there it is Mach 3458, MHS+ Absolute Superman is real.

Issue 16 of Absolute Superman was really good too. Fun seeing how this followed up a bit on Absolute Evil. Getting Hawkman's backstory and learning more about his mindset behind "protecting" the world in contrast to Superman. Pretty interested to see how their reluctant team up against Parasite will go next month. Oh and Brainiac getting annoyed Lex is happy owning a gas station while not even knowing who Superman is.
 
Issue 16 was damn great, man. I love the contrast between Superman's "I'll save everyone" vs Hawkman's "Sacrifice the few to save the many" mentality. That and bringing back a more playfully cocky Superman with him obviously knowing Hawkman is full of shit. Really curious about where the Brainiac stuff is headed to as well.
 
So DC KO came out and o gotta ask

How do we take them comparing to the prime universe at those point? I’m guessing we’ll focus on their mainline comics for scaling but I believe Darkseid mentions these are weaker, easier to control versions of the characters then we’ve seen at this point.

I know there’s some fun implications of them being stronger then first imagined because they hail from a universe saturated in Omega Energy
 
Hellbeast said:
So DC KO came out and o gotta ask

How do we take them comparing to the prime universe at those point? I’m guessing we’ll focus on their mainline comics for scaling but I believe Darkseid mentions these are weaker, easier to control versions of the characters then we’ve seen at this point.

I know there’s some fun implications of them being stronger then first imagined because they hail from a universe saturated in Omega Energy
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They're all corrupted by Omega energy. They don't scale at all.
 
Superior to Homelander, 9-A upscale
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
They're all corrupted by Omega energy. They don't scale at all.
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I mean do we know it’s an amp though?
As I mentioned they’re inherent to a world saturated in Omega Energy as per the comic and Darkseid himself seemingly wanted easier to control versions then what they’d be normally

Idk that could imply something good at least resistance wise
 
Hellbeast said:
I mean do we know it’s an amp though?
As I mentioned they’re inherent to a world saturated in Omega Energy as per the comic and Darkseid himself seemingly wanted easier to control versions then what they’d be normally

Idk that could imply something good at least resistance wise
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If I was to give my two sense.
While I can’t comment on whether the omega energy stuff should give them resistances.

I think it’s narratively inconsistent for us to rate the absolute heroes as on par with their mainline versions in their current states. At least it is for Absolute Supes. Since WoG (Jason Aaron) did say Kal growing in power to even do things like moving the moon was something he’d have to grow towards. Which is the kind of feat mainline Supes does on tuesdays (even new 52 Kryptonians have statements of shrugging off Supernovas iirc). With the whole point being that Superman starts weaker but is constantly growing.
 
Hellbeast said:
I mean do we know it’s an amp though?
As I mentioned they’re inherent to a world saturated in Omega Energy as per the comic and Darkseid himself seemingly wanted easier to control versions then what they’d be normally

Idk that could imply something good at least resistance wise
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Omega energy amped Booster Gold to being able to harm World Forger level characters. It's clearly an amp and these feats are not at all consistent with their showings within their own books, plus with the additions of them being meant to be weaker.

If they crossover under more normal circumstances, it would be less jarring, but as it is they simply don't scale.
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
If I was to give my two sense.
While I can’t comment on whether the omega energy stuff should give them resistances.

I think it’s narratively inconsistent for us to rate the absolute heroes as on par with their mainline versions in their current states. At least it is for Absolute Supes. Since WoG (Jason Aaron) did say Kal growing in power to even do things like moving the moon was something he’d have to grow towards. Which is the kind of feat mainline Supes does on tuesdays (even new 52 Kryptonians have statements of shrugging off Supernovas iirc). With the whole point being that Superman starts weaker but is constantly growing.
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Hmm so you’d imagine it more as an upper potential rather then a prime
Emirp sumitpo said:
Omega energy amped Booster Gold to being able to harm World Forger level characters. It's clearly an amp and these feats are not at all consistent with their showings within their own books, plus with the additions of them being meant to be weaker.
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Thing is it seems they’re naturally attuned to Omega Energy so it wouldn’t be an amp but their baseline

Bit I get your point yeah
Emirp sumitpo said:
If they crossover under more normal circumstances, it would be less jarring, but as it is they simply don't scale.
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Yeah that’s fair, I think I’m most inclined to buy Abaolhre Batman scaling since the series is so over the top with stuff like their Venom but we’d need statement of intent from Snyder
 
Bit late on posting this and I'm sure some people here have seen it already but we've got info on the new Absolute Comics runs, Absolute Green Arrow and Absolute Catwoman.

"A serial killer is slaughtering corrupt billionaires, and the only clue to his identity is the green arrows protruding from the victims’ bodies. Executive protection specialist Dinah Lance, also known as Absolute Black Canary, is assigned to uncover the murderer’s identity as she investigates a list of suspects drawn from the ranks of DC’s most dangerous archers. Each one is uniquely connected to a recently murdered Oliver Queen. A deadly mystery unfolds in this urban horror reimagining of the Emerald Archer’s mythos, brought to life by Eisner Award–winners Pornsak Pichetshote and Rafael Albuquerque."

"Selina Kyle has carved a good life for herself. Through her ingenuity and skills, she has become the greatest thief the world has ever known. With high-tech gear and weaponry, there is no place too secure for Catwoman. But when someone from her past comes knocking at her door, everything she has built begins to collapse. To survive, Selina must unravel a mystery that takes her across the globe and deep into the shadows of the Absolute Universe. Written by Che Grayson and Scott Snyder with art by Bengal, Catwoman bursts onto the scene in her first Absolute solo series."

Both of these are 6-issue series. AGA is coming out in May 20, and ACW is June 10.

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