About some of Composite Godzilla's abilities...

[SomebodyData]

It is confusing, from what I understand, the community still argues about the time travel stuff.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

https://wikizilla.org/wiki/List_of_Godzilla_film_continuities

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Gorath was used by name in other Godzilla media and unless you think it was an actual star, Gorath is the only thing that fits the scale and behavior of the thing Godzilla blew up. Also...small star? That was to stop it, not to blow it up like he did. And the video evidence of it doesn't show Godzilla at max charge which means he can put out more power than what blew Gorath up. Also it should count because Toho made it and approved of it, unless you think some random people got in the costumes and did things with them which is grasping at straws. It was revisited and calced at 5× sun busting by T5 forums and I've seen calcs showing higher yields for vaporization and atomic destruction, other such things.

And it's not an outlier since SpaceGodzilla is in that game and Godzilla can fight him and as I stated Toho's later bio for SpaceGodzilla confirms the movie's theory as fact. So really the tier should be raised.

I would like to point out that he can indeed put out more than what destroyed Gorath.

If I remember right, this is Godzilla's full power in the Pachinko, right? Like if you get up to full charge this is what comes out?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dont quote large walls of text

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

No its canonically a timeline split due to the time travel in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah

Toho stated themselves that the Heisei timeline is a loop in where you can't alter history. There were two Godzillas though given the facts.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yet another example of why we dont accept WoG for Godzilla here

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Because........


You can't just deny a claim without counter-arguments. It's pretty obvious there are either two Godzillas or Heisei just survived the Oxygen Destroyer (which would be an awesome feat)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because we literally see timeline splits in the movie itself, Toho saying thimline slpits dont happen is like accepting the creator of Naruto saying that real life armies with normal guns can beat everyone in Naruto

And yes, because of the timeline split one of the Godzillas did survive the Oxygen Destroyer, its part of why he has a resistance to matter manip

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

That's a misconception and was never said. Just like the Saitama Big Bang thing.


So....multi-continental durability for early Heisei then?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The Oxygen Destroyer is not even close to Multi-Continent level in AP, its a hax weapon that works through matter manip, not AP

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

I mean...... https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gallavant/Godzilla_-_The_Oxygen_Destroyer_Revised.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

And https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gallavant/Godzilla_-_The_Oxygen_Destroyer

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Did you actually read the first blog? Its a feat for Destoroyah

The second blog you posted is obsolete due to the first blog

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

As an arregate. Things that barely annoyed Godzilla himself and even his son could defeat. And to me it seems unlikely Godzilla Jr is above early Heisei (like 1991-1993) in power.

But still proves my point, surviving the OD is a great durability feat even if Godzilla needed to regenerate afterwards.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Timeline split, in one timeline it reduces him to a skeleton which is later used as a frame for Mechagodzilla, in the other it doesnt destroy him

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

• Reduces him to nothing. The bones also disintegrate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2wnaYIm4vE

-Kiryu saga is another timeline. None of the Millenium films connect back to the Heisei era. That's just headcanon.

So you admit Heisei Godzilla survived this, which would then bump him up quite a bit

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Millennium Godzilla canonically uses the skeleton of the original Godzilla as a frame for Mechagodzilla, this is stated directly in the movie

Heisei Godzilla survived the oxygen destroyer, but the oxygen destroyer is not High 6-A

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

But this is separate from the Heisei era. Or the original film, since the Kiryu saga takes from different points of the Toho universe but not all.


Can you disprove the calculations with reasoning?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The timeline split made it so the original film links directly to multiple later films in different eras

There's nothing to disprove because the calc isnt for the Oxygen destroyer, its for Destoroyah

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

But contradicts the first film itself, and even a retcon only applies to that timeline.


Who is empowered by the Oxygen Destroyer. And whom survived it directly mind you as well so Destoroyah has both attack potency and durability linked to the destructive power of the OD, which was calced at continental. The powerscaling part comes afterward.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It really doesnt as we never actually see what happens to Godzilla after the Oxygen Destroyer is used, all the timeline splits are splits of what could have happened at the end of the movie without actually contradicting anything.

Are you really implying we should scale the Oxygen Destroyer to Destoroyah? That makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The Oxygen Destroyer used in the original film was not calced at Continent level. Destoroyah's attack was.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

The original film shows something definitive, Godzilla is reduced to no visible amount of matter. The Kiryu saga leaves him as bones to make Kiryu.

I'm saying that Destoroyah should be at least as powerful as the Oxygen Destroyer as an arregate. Which is supported by the series' scaling, along with statements in the film itself.

Um...no. The calc is for the OD itself, which scales upwards to Destoroyah as his power source.

-In fact the page itself splits the calc from the scaling.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No it doesnt, you never see what happens to Godzilla, all we see is the weapon and then Godzilla doesnt come back so its assumed the weapon worked

No, it doesnt work like that because the calc isnt for the oxygen destroyer, its for Destoroyah. If you want the Oxygen Destroyer to be calced then have someone calc it but the area would be far lesser than Destoroyah's as the blast would only be a 1.38 km^3 blast.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Honestly the calc itself is extremely shaky as the method itself is dubious at best, there isnt a way to destroy only a single type of atom in a certain area with only AP

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

We see it reduce him to bones and then the bones vanish. So to deny this is blatantly contradicting the film itself and thus I dismiss your claim.


The calc clearly established that the first, smaller end was for Tokyo Bay and the second applies to an omnidirectional OD, which powerscales to Destoroyah.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Honestly the calc itself is extremely shaky as the method itself is dubious at best, there isnt a way to destroy only a single type of atom in a certain area with only AP

The first film did it and Destoroyah uses that as fact. Though science disproves this, this IS a science fiction weapon, universe and lore. Not all the facts will match up.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The first film did it and Destoroyah uses that as fact. Though science disproves this, this IS a science fiction weapon, universe and lore. Not all the facts will match up.

The Oxygen Destroyer is hax, not AP

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

I mean....Godzilla survived it several times. So if it was straight NLF atom destroying hacks, explain how Godzilla survived

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Matter manipulation resistance, as is listed on his profile already

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

I see. So Destoroyah basically has hacks instead of power then?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Are those hacks on his profile?

 

[SomebodyData]

You could just check the profile... (Its a yes)

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

They change pretty often.

 

[SomebodyData]

What does that have to do with checking it at that moment?

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Because matter manipulation isn't there. He has energy manipulation, specified as the Micro Oxygen and all that comes with it but matter manipulation is gone. So if it was there it's not anymore.

 

[SomebodyData]

Atomic Destruction = matter manip

 

[Gallavant]

It is a hax, however the film demonstrates that it has varying levels of potency. Once the micro-oxygen reached a certain density, a scientist stated that it has surpassed mere micro-oxygen, and became an Oxygen Destroyer. The weaponized projectile variant of micro-oxygen can already penetrate any known metal, as said earlier in the movie. So because of that, the variant that turns fish into skeletons is a rather low density form of micro-oxygen. The one used by even the smaller Juvenile Destoroyah variants can warp out a hole straight through a human torso. By a factor of over 500 times more microoxygen, the Aggregate and Final Form Destoroyahs' beams are classified as an Oxygen Destroyer.

 

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

does dimensional tidal in Godzilla vs Megaguirus count as matter manipulation and gravity manipulation ?