about godly regen in undertale,downgrade

[Ricsi-viragosi]

they never got body and soul destroyed at once

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Frisk didn't though.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Frisk didn't though.

what do you mean? frisks soul survived, as thats what chara got before restoring the world

 

[RRTheEndMan]

chara wanted frisk's soul, so why she would destroy it?

 

[Anonimoe7875]

what do you mean? frisks soul survived, as thats what chara got before restoring the world
Exactly, Frisk soul wasn't destroyed, so that can't qualify as High-Glody,

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

chara was destroyed tho

thats where they Regenerationn come from, and charas body was obviusly destroyed with the attack as well. and they hit frisk directly, and there is no reason not to belive that frisk wasaffected by it, as i fail to see how chara would destroy everything amd leave frisk intact, and they planned to destoy everything

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Frisk soul wasn't destroyed, so that is at best a Low-glody regen feat.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Frisk soul wasn't destroyed, so that is at best a Low-glody regen feat.

but chara was, as shown by theyre lack of body.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

So that would only be High-glody regen for Chara, not Frisk.

And wasn't this made before but refused?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So that would only be High-glody regen for Chara, not Frisk.
And wasn't this made before but refused?

yeah, i guess,

i have no idea

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Chara survived through Abstract Existence, not regen.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

then where does mid godly come from?

 

[Anonimoe7875]

They were dead before the game even started and like Flowey, they soul was lost/destroyed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

They were dead before the game even started and like Flowey, they soul was lost/destroyed.

frisk has it, and theire body wasent destroyed, nor was theyre mind , as they mentined they were awekened. asriel has shown that part of your soul and/or dust can contain theyre mind and be animated by dt

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Then they regen should be downgraded.

Also Frisk doesn't have Chara soul, where did you get that from?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

so its a downgrade then

 

[Anonimoe7875]

It would at least still be Low-Glody.

I didn't understand you point about Chara mind, Chara mind didn't survived/existed and stayed at the flowers until Frisk falled in the underground or something like that.

It was said by Chara that Frisk determination waked them up from death.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

mid godly needs for both body and mind to be destroyed, and asriel himself shoved that the corpse can be used to make someone come back from death via DT.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah, I'm hindsight, soul destruction in UT doesn't seem to be the final frontier, as Asriel showed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

and he hadremains from body left, that contained hes mind (the dust on golden flowers)

 

[DMB_1]

Are you guys sure that after you loose a fight, your soul gets destroyed? Because the monster state that they want to absorb your soul.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Are you guys sure that after you loose a fight, your soul gets destroyed? Because the monster state that they want to absorb your soul.

what? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHARA AND ASRIEL COMING BACK POST SOUL DESTRUCTIOn. (left caps on by error)

 

[Anonimoe7875]

mid godly needs for both body and mind to be destroyed, and asriel himself shoved that the corpse can be used to make someone come back from death via DT.

I said low glody not mid glody.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I said low glody not mid glody.

yes, but they have mid right now, which isnt right. not saying YOU are wrong

 

[DMB_1]

Frisk didn't though.

what do you mean? frisks soul survived, as thats what chara got before restoring the world

If chara didn't destroy the 5th dimensional construct that contains the timelines, that's not High Godly.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If chara didn't destroy the 5th dimensional construct that contains the timelines, that's not High Godly.

the description is wrong, its a downgrade now to lowgodly

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Ricsi ask Azathoth to comment here, he added it in the past.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

What?

Chara's mid-godly comes from the fact that they came back into existence after having their SOUL destroyed and being dead for years. This happens before the game even begins. It's not because Chara died when they destroyed the game, or something.

Frisk on the other hand should only have Mid-Godly as a theoretical possibility. Low-Godly is a safer bet, on the low end.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

erm... Mid-Godly: Able to regenerate even after every aspect of the mind, body, soul, and consciousness, are erased from existence

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

...shouldn't Chara have very non combat applicable regen in that case, Azzy?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Cal

This is pre-abstract Chara, and it's achieved through DETERMINATION. The very source of which they take from you at the end of the genocide run. They would no longer need to wait for a source of DT.

@Ricsi

Chara's body no longer existed, either. You can even check their grave and see that it's empty. And again, this is pre-abstract Chara, while at the end of the genocide run, they no longer even have a proper body.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

theyre corpese was taken by toriel tho.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Do you mean at the end of the game or before?

If at the end, when is this stated?

 

[RRTheEndMan]

Wasn't it buried by toriel?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Chara's body was originally laid to rest in a coffin in the basement of the castle, where the bodies of the other fallen humans would later be put. When she left Asgore, Toriel carried Chara's body to the Ruins and gave them a proper burial.

the wiki itself says so... ill look it up

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Ricsi

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Chara is buried long before the game begins. Their corpse wouldn't exist, anymore (in one piece), as it would have long since decomposed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

@Ricsi
Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Chara is buried long before the game begins. Their corpse wouldn't exist, anymore (in one piece), as it would have long since decomposed.

it wouldemt have been vompletly destroyed in a way that mid godly needs though, it needs to ve erased

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wait, wouldn't that be resurrection as opposed to regen? With regen, you're not supposed to die at all. Chara actually was dead.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Chara isn't regenerating from their body, though. Their SOUL, which is the culmination of their being, had been absorbed and destroyed. Their corpse was decomposed and disconnected from them, thus irrelevant.

If their body played some part in their resurrection, that would be a different story.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Wait, wouldn't that be resurrection as opposed to regen? With regen, you're not supposed to die at all. Chara actually was dead.

You kind of have to "die" once Mid-Godly comes into play. Chara even speaks about being "awakened" from death. Though they would technically also have Resurrection.