A Wolf VS A Pony Ōkami Amaterasu VS Twilight Sparkle

[Lightbuster30]

If she can't get around time stop then I might vote inconclusive due to passive shield. But for now my vote remains the same. Waiting for some more info.

 

[Chartate101]

I do not have time to to write a fully detailed reason right now, but I will come back with a full response either tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Phoenix821]

Sounds good.

 

[Chartate101]

In game, time stop is activated whenever Amy (Amaterasu) uses the celestial paintbrush. Time resumes after she has drawn her ability, and the ability immediately activates. The abilities she could use while time is stopped are as follows:

Sunrise- Amy conjures up the sun, turning night to day (not useful here)

Restoration- Repair destroyed objects (not useful here)

Power Slash- This is where things get good. This ability allows her to slash through enemies. Given that it is roughly as effective as doing normal damage, it should scale from her striking strength (Large Star Class). This means that, from timestop, she could hurt Twilight.

Bloom- Can trap opponents by sprouting trees. Again, she can immobilize Twlight from in Time Stop. Can do other things that are not useful here.

Water Lily- Can create lily pads (not useful here)

Vine- Can attach a vine to the opponent, which would again allow Amy a more easy shot.

Cherry Bomb- A bomb that detonates after a few seconds. After upgrading, you can use multiple at once. Should scale from striking strength. Would be particularly useful when the opponent is immobileized (like with Bloom).

Waterspout- Can attack the opponent with water from medium range. Again, scales from striking strength.

Deluge- Make rain (not useful here)

Crescent- Sunrise, but with the moon

Galestorm- Creates wind (not useful here)

Whirlwind- Blasts opponents with a gust of wind. Should scale from striking strength.

Inferno- Amy can manipulate fire (not useful here as she needs an outside source)

Fireburst- Creates a ball of fire, making the surrounding are ablaze

Here's the big one: Veil of Mist. I'm just gonna copy-paste the description on her page:

• Veil of Mist: Amaterasu can slow down time to a near-stop (to the degree that Blight, one of the bosses, goes down from moving so fast it appears as teleportation to Amaterasu to the point that every single motion can be recorded), that lasts for approximately four seconds.

Catwalk- Amy can climb walls (not useful here)

Thunderstorm- can manipulate electricty (not useful here as it needs an outside source)

Thunderbolt- Creates a thunderbolt that hits as an area-of-effect attack. Should scalre from Striking Strength.

Blizzard: Can manipulate Ice (not useful as it requires an outside source)

Icestorm: Generates ice to damage and freeze opponents. Should scale from Striking Strength

Not a paintbrush attack, but still notable: Godhood. This passive ability gives Amy 4 shields that each absorb 1 hit, and these can regen throughout battle.

Also, could someone remove the win from Twilight's page? This shit ain't over.

Again, let me remind you, she can do this all from time stop

 

[Phoenix821]

There's also the Astral Pouch which can revive her 3 times.

Also Twilight has a Passive forcefield in this form, so Ammy needs to get past that first.

 

[Lightbuster30]

None of that gets past a passive shield. Time stop does not shut down Twilight's shield. So inconclusive if she goes with Godhood during timestop. And even then the Rainbow Power, which should have the abilities of the Rig, can RE, and powernull the shield anyway.

 

[Phoenix821]

Godhood is a passive and is independent from the Celestial Brush.

 

[Jinsye]

None of that gets past a passive shield. Time stop does not shut down Twilight's shield. So inconclusive if she goes with Godhood during timestop. And even then the Rainbow Power, which should have the abilities of the Rig, can RE, and powernull the shield anyway.

What this man said.

 

[Lightbuster30]

How long does it take for Amy to use her paintbrush, because the first thing that Twilight does is blast her opponent with a rainbow beam that takes no charge time.

 

[Phoenix821]

The brush is her Tail and it's most likely the first thing she'll do considering her Opponent if in the Air.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Godhood is a passive and is independent from the Celestial Brush.

RP should still be able to null it. Tbey are basically a beefed up EoH, which can null characters who resist Power Nullification.

 

[Lightbuster30]

The brush is her Tail and it's most likely the first thing she'll do considering her Opponent if in the Air.

How long does it take? Twilight can do her thing instantly (as in no charge time like normal). Brush, I have no clue.

 

[Phoenix821]

The timestop happens instantly upon activating her brush and the effects happen after it ends.

 

[Lightbuster30]

"Sigh" yes. I know that. I'm asking how long the brush takes to activate. Seconds? Instant? Passive? Need answers.

 

[Phoenix821]

The brush activating is instant.

 

[Chartate101]

Its really hard to get a clear timeframe as its from a game, but in gamw, the moment you press the button time stops. So less than a second, possibly instant. I get she has a shield, but a shield can be broken. And given how much time Amy has to do it (4 Godhood shields per Astral Pouch life), it shouldn't be hard for he to break through the shield and kill her.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Its really hard to get a clear timeframe as its from a game, but in

That shield completely tanked blows from someone who stomps people who stomps casual baselines at least a few times over. The shield isn't coming down any time soon. And since it's passive, it's liable to just remake itself anyways. AND she'd still have to break Twilight's magically enhanced durability, which should scale to the shield.

 

[Chartate101]

If the shield is that OP than this is a stomp and ahould be closed

 

[MinatoSparkle]

If the shield is that OP than this is a stomp and ahould be closed

No. They're still in the same tier, so it's just a win for Twilight.

 

[Chartate101]

You can have a stomp in the same tier. If she has a shied that Amy cannot get through by any means, thats a stomp

 

[Chartate101]

Amy is baseline and Light even said that the shield tank hits from guys who stomped baselines. That would make this is a stomp

 

[Lightbuster30]

Not quite. Both have autoshields, and Amy has had to put up a fight. That makes it decisive.

 

[Chartate101]

Amy has no way to get past the shield, based on what you're saying. That makes it a stomp.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Amy has no way to get past the shield, based on what you're saying. That makes it a stomp.

Isn't the point of these threads to show one character as superior to another in battle? Unless there's an actual rule about same tier stomps, I think this should still be added.

 

[Chartate101]

A stomp is when one character has absolutely no way to win. if a character has a shield that Amy can't do a single thing about it would be a stomp

 

[MinatoSparkle]

A stomp is when one character has absolutely no way to win. if a character has a shield that Amy can't do a single thing about it would be a stomp

Isn't Amy casually 30x baseline anyways?

 

[Chartate101]

Yeah. So in that case, she busts Twilight's shield by AP

 

[Chartate101]

so she has a very valid way to win

by vote stands for Amy

 

[Jinsye]

Amaterasu is 27.66x baseline if I'm correct.

Twilight is >>>>>>>> Full Power Tirek >>>>> Post-Discord Tirek = 4 Alicorn Twilight >>>> Post Mane Six Tirek >>>> Discord >>>> 2 Alicorns > 1 Alicorn > Baseline

 

[Lightbuster30]

Yeah. So in that case, she busts Twilight's shield by AP

Not really. She isn't even 3x stronger than Twilight with RP. That shield was completely uneffected by an energy blast from full power Tirek, who sort of has a chain of stomping people who stomp people who stomp very casual baselines.

I repeat: the shield completely tanked the hit. It wasn't affected even remotely. Try shooting completely bulletproof glass, and it takes no damage. It takes no dents, or even surface scratches completely and utterly unharmed. Trust me, it would take a lot more than pumping that bullet by a few times to so much as crack it.

Going by multipliers the shield is roughly 3x weaker tham Amy. However it makes up for that by my example above, and the fact that the attacker is 8x while so stupidly casual.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Not to mention Discord can suposedly sneeze away baselines, and removed every star in the night sky once.

 

[Phoenix821]

I mean the feat that puts her at high 4-C is super casual.

 

[Lightbuster30]

They both are. I mean, sneezing away baselines? C'mon now.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Yeah. So in that case, she busts Twilight's shield by AP

But Twilight can still attack Amy. It's not like she won't react if the shield is broken.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Amaterasu is 27.66x baseline if I'm correct.
Twilight is >>>>>>>> Full Power Tirek >>>>> Post-Discord Tirek = 4 Alicorn Twilight >>>> Post Mane Six Tirek >>>> Discord >>>> 2 Alicorns > 1 Alicorn > Baseline

Isn't one alicorn Star Level?

 

[Lightbuster30]

Isn't one alicorn Star Level?

They were supposed to become large star level but it got held off because of stellar revisions. Now they'd probably be at least, or star level+. Baseline High 4C is now 3x higher than the original. Amy now only has a marginal AP advantage based on that, certainly not good enough to smash the shield. Now she has 70% more AP, only slightly higher than what the shield completely tanks.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Isn't one alicorn Star Level?

They were supposed to become large star level but it got held off because of stellar revisions. Now they'd probably be at least, or star level+. Baseline High 4C is now 3x higher than the original. Amy now only has a marginal AP advantage based on that, certainly not good enough to smash the shield. Now she has 70% more AP, only slightly higher than what the shield completely tanks.
So is this thread too much of a stomp and it should be closed or not?

 

[Lightbuster30]

That's up to the thread maker.

 

[Phoenix821]

I mean if Ammy can't get past that shield then it's a stomp. Maybe All alicorn Twilight would be more fair?

 

[Chartate101]

that's definitely more fair. I feel like at that point you might as well make a new thread