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A Very stinky revision | Swampfire Révision and Upgrade

GeneralSol16

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So, let's start this.

New Key​
Currently, Swampfire's profile has two Keys: Base | Ultimate.
But there's a big problem with that, since Swampfire actually has three versions: UAF, Omniverse and Ultimate, but for some reason, his Omniverse form, better knows as Blossomed, doesn't have a key.

This form gave Ben greater power than before, as seen in "I'm Charmed, I'm sure", Ben was first unable to control the Pumpkins monsters.

But with his newest form, Ben was now able control them, even when not trying to.

So, "Blossomed Form" should be a new key.

Upgrade​
Now, what would be his TIer? Well, that's an easy one.
Ben was able to battle KKevin 11 when he absorbed the Omnitrix during "Weapon XI: Part 1"

As seen above, Kevin tried to bullrush Ben, but he turned into Swampfire and stopped him cold, with the two of them being on the same level of strength, and Kevin needing to use Gravattack's powers to push him away. After that, Ben was able to survive punches from Levin without the need of regenerating himself.
- "Omniverse Kevin 11 is at least 17x Classic characters for his AP 5.4114 Yottatons (5-A) as he visually has the powers of at least seven combat-applicable Aliens. However he also has at least 19x Durability based on him having Ball Weevil and The Worst’s powers, 6.048 Yottatons (5-A) and the scaling chain follows."

So, Swampfire's new form would scale to 5.4114 Yottatons [5-A] for being on par with Omniverse Kevin 11.

Pretty simple and straightforward, if you ask me.

Agree:
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I agree.

Would Ultimate Swampfire upscale from this as he is an evolved version of the species while Blossomed Swampfire is just an adult version of the species.
 
What are these supposedly "new abilities" he gets in blossomed form ?
The way I see it it's just plant manipulation.
literally everybody knows that it's stronger than before So what is even supposed to be written in its blossomed key ( can control every single point on the universe?)
See it doesn't really make much sense It's just planned manipulation but is stronger.
If it was a new ability like elemental manipulation or mind control then I'd agree for a new key.
 
DemonicDude said:
What are these supposedly "new abilities" he gets in blossomed form ?
The way I see it it's just plant manipulation.
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GeneralSol16 said:
But with his newest form, Ben was now able control them, even when not trying to.
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Aside from that, Ben was able to grow a thick wall of vines with just a gesture, in contrast with his Base form, in which Ben needed to throw seeds to make them grow.
 
GeneralSol16 said:
Aside from that, Ben was able to grow a thick wall of vines with just a gesture, in contrast with his Base form, in which Ben needed to throw seeds to make them grow.
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Swampfire in his debut was able to not only control plant but more, Look at the ability itself.

vsbattles.fandom.com

Plant Manipulation

The power to control plant life. Users may be able to create, shape and manipulate plants, including woods, vines, moss, and various other plant groups, as well as invidual parts such as leaves, seeds, fruits and flowers. The user may cause plants to grow, move/attack or even rise from the soil...
vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

If someone has this power and are using it to make walls or anything else then that's just pretty much the extension of this power and it doesn't really warrant new key to me.

For example: if someone let's just say..

Ampfibian has the ability of Electricity manipulation I don't really believe that they should have ability like telekinesis because there are several different ways of using an electricity

let's say:
If one day I'm watching a Ben 10 Omniverse episode and Ampfibian is able to use his electric powers and lift a car I would not even give him telekinesis at all. (Yeah you heard that right)
And same thing goes with swampfire if he's able to control plant or plant creature in different planets then to me that's literally just a higher degree of plant manipulation. That's not something brand new at all and him making walls out of Vines it's pretty self-explanatory.
People who have manipulation of plants their capable of doing such.

The scene right here from the opening episode of Ben 10 Ultimate Alien titled "Fame" It's pretty much "Vine wall creation". There are several hundred ways one can use plant manipulation abilities
"making tentacles out of them and making walls" out of them is pretty much the same thing!

In fact that's not even something that's different It's just a clever way of using plant manipulation.
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As far as him controlling pumpkin monsters. Those pumpkin monsters are plant-based, So that's just a higher degree of plant manipulation. In fact it has to do more with mental control rather than having a new ability, He is concentrating enough to affect those pumpkin monsters and it's pretty much using his base powers of plant manipulation. Something which he can already do and did against Dnaliens.




I'd say if he really was more different rather than more "stronger" than he would have Mind Control during his blossomed form (depending on the sentient life of those pumpkin monsters)
 
Dude, what the heck.
His ability to control the Pumpkins monsters were thanks to his new form, he couldn't do it before that, as said in the episode itself.
Don't know wtf are you talking about or trying to counter argument, but the point of this is "He's stronger and has more intense powers, needing a new and higher key."

DemonicDude said:
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Celestial_Scaler25 said:
Would Ultimate Swampfire upscale from this as he is an evolved version of the species while Blossomed Swampfire is just an adult version of the species.
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Nah. I mean, a human's an evolved version of some ancient monkey thing, doesn't mean a teenager's beating a grown-ass ape. Also could've used the example of neanderthals, which makes more sense, but what am I, someone smart?
 
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