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A Shrine Maiden tries to seal away a Demon Lord(Kirin{Azure Striker Gunvolt} vs Hajime Nagumo{Arifureta: From Commonplace to World's Strongest})

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Kirin(Azure Striker Gunvolt)
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Hajime Nagumo(After-Stories)

Distance: 100 meters
Speed Equalized
Hajime's starts with Riftwalk
Kirin is not paired with Gunvolt
Kirin's Prevasion is restricted((In Kirin's profile it was noted that Prevasion can be restricted in matches since it can disabled in-verse)
Djinn's Wish and Golden Trillion is restricted.
 
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Do you need a smurf hax to damage here ?
Yes and no. The following resistances for Kirin are 4D: Existence Erasure, Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3), Mind Manipulation/Madness Manipulation, Power Nullification, Power Erasure, and Power Absorption, Limited Fate Manipulation and Probability Manipulation, Sealing.
 
so basically Hajime got ******

really need to research more bud
He has the superior Lifting Strength so he can win by restraining her, and he also has this: Information Manipulation, Existence Erasure, and Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Has a single bullet which has the concept of denying all existence in it that can overwrite a person's information from exist to doesn't exist, can likewise create other concepts but not useful in combat due to needing time to concentrate on raising his wish to the conceptual level). Defensively I'd say he's pretty solid seeing as he has the following: Greater Instinctive Reaction (Instinctively reacted to his enemies' bloodlust,[14] even if it came from beings so far weaker than him, he could kill them in an instant. With his level of skill he can fight purely by instinct[15] without the ability to think), Greater Teleportation (Can change places with his Exchange Cases and Exchange Bullets,[36] accomplishing a sudden and random teleportation in middle of combat to disorientate his opponent), Greater Information Analysis (All the evolution magic put into his Demon Eye let him analyze information at a prodigious rate, and he also enchanted it with foresight,[36] which he can use to even predict Ehit), Analytical Prediction (His foresight allows him to know his opponents future moves[23]), Acrobatics (Even when he just learned to fight he was able to a mid-air somersault[6] in the middle of a fight and do double jumps. Similarly at such point he was also able to dodge four consecutive attacks, even using his gun as recoil for propel himself and dodge,[18] on top of being able to retain his balance in the back of a rampaging beast, everything while protecting a little girl. After training his skill to a proper level he become far more agile, which is show in his fight against Miledi in which he was able to move from flying platform to flying platform[37] which were freely controlled by Miledi, this while fighting several opponents at the same time, and later in said fight he maneuvered himself with Yue and Shia in his arms while dodging multiple platforms falling on top of him as thickly as raindrops.[37] While in midair he can do actions like do a somersault while reloading his guns upside down[28])
 
that's cool and all until you realized all of her resistance are also 4D

basically Hajime can't do jack even if it do land, the only thing he have is superior base stat, which, you know, she can just nullify because 4D power null and apparently 4D prevasion, which I heard is very OP

so please, tell me, what can Hajime do if all of his hax is either get resisted, or get nulled?
 
that's cool and all until you realized all of her resistance are also 4D

basically Hajime can't do jack even if it do land, the only thing he have is superior base stat, which, you know, she can just nullify because 4D power null and apparently 4D prevasion, which I heard is very OP

so please, tell me, what can Hajime do if all of his hax is either get resisted, or get nulled?
that's cool and all until you realized all of her resistance are also 4D

basically Hajime can't do jack even if it do land, the only thing he have is superior base stat, which, you know, she can just nullify because 4D power null and apparently 4D prevasion, which I heard is very OP

so please, tell me, what can Hajime do if all of his hax is either get resisted, or get nulled?
OP:
"Kirin is not paired with Gunvolt
Kirin's Prevasion is restricted((In Kirin's profile it was noted that Prevasion can be restricted in matches since it can disabled in-verse)
Djinn's Wish and Golden Trillion is restricted."
Also these resistances are the only ones that are 4D:
Yes and no. The following resistances for Kirin are 4D: Existence Erasure, Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3), Mind Manipulation/Madness Manipulation, Power Nullification, Power Erasure, and Power Absorption, Limited Fate Manipulation and Probability Manipulation, Sealing.
 
Me desperately trying to get through finals so I can make the last two parts of the 10th Anni CRT while dealing with GV’s page having apparent bloating problems having to be pulled into the debate room to deal with GV chars being put up against the most OP people ever like Sonic vs GV and this for the 17th time be like

 
Me desperately trying to get through finals so I can make the last two parts of the 10th Anni CRT while dealing with GV’s page having apparent bloating problems having to deal with GV chars being put up against the most OP people ever like Sonic vs GV and this for the 17th time be like


The only characters that can fight Hax Lords are either an Anti-Hax character or another Hax Lord. With that said, I think it's safe to say that most people would find a Hax fight to be more interesting.
 
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that's cool and all until you realized all of her resistance are also 4D
Isn’t Hajime supposed to be the Iron Man / Batman like character who’s more notable for their equipment? Sure she might have resistance to whatever magic effects he might have but- g… gun could work right?
basically Hajime can't do jack even if it do land, the only thing he have is superior base stat,
That feeling when she’s gonna have a Low 5-B
which, you know, she can just nullify because 4D power null and apparently 4D prevasion, which I heard is very OP
4D Prevasion is only a GV thing, her’s is just Layered 3D
so please, tell me, what can Hajime do if all of his hax is either get resisted, or get nulled?
G u n ? Idk
 
Isn’t Hajime supposed to be the Iron Man / Batman like character who’s more notable for their equipment? Sure she might have resistance to whatever magic effects he might have but- g… gun could work right?

That feeling when she’s gonna have a Low 5-B

4D Prevasion is only a GV thing, her’s is just Layered 3D

G u n ? Idk
He has the superior Lifting Strength so he can win by restraining her, and he also has this: Information Manipulation, Existence Erasure, and Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Has a single bullet which has the concept of denying all existence in it that can overwrite a person's information from exist to doesn't exist, can likewise create other concepts but not useful in combat due to needing time to concentrate on raising his wish to the conceptual level). Defensively I'd say he's pretty solid seeing as he has the following: Greater Instinctive Reaction (Instinctively reacted to his enemies' bloodlust,[14] even if it came from beings so far weaker than him, he could kill them in an instant. With his level of skill he can fight purely by instinct[15] without the ability to think), Greater Teleportation (Can change places with his Exchange Cases and Exchange Bullets,[36] accomplishing a sudden and random teleportation in middle of combat to disorientate his opponent), Greater Information Analysis (All the evolution magic put into his Demon Eye let him analyze information at a prodigious rate, and he also enchanted it with foresight,[36] which he can use to even predict Ehit), Analytical Prediction (His foresight allows him to know his opponents future moves[23]), Acrobatics (Even when he just learned to fight he was able to a mid-air somersault[6] in the middle of a fight and do double jumps. Similarly at such point he was also able to dodge four consecutive attacks, even using his gun as recoil for propel himself and dodge,[18] on top of being able to retain his balance in the back of a rampaging beast, everything while protecting a little girl. After training his skill to a proper level he become far more agile, which is show in his fight against Miledi in which he was able to move from flying platform to flying platform[37] which were freely controlled by Miledi, this while fighting several opponents at the same time, and later in said fight he maneuvered himself with Yue and Shia in his arms while dodging multiple platforms falling on top of him as thickly as raindrops.[37] While in midair he can do actions like do a somersault while reloading his guns upside down[28])
 
I still have a hard time understand that Prevasion thing, lol, seriously, need to have a verse-specific power page to explain that shit

Anyway, Hajime EE is Concept Type 1 and Info Type 2 EE, i didn't see Kirin resists these two things so Hajime can use this to delete her, if he use it of course
 
I still have a hard time understand that Prevasion thing, lol, seriously, need to have a verse-specific power page to explain that shit
There... IS a blog I made in it but it mostly concerns information from GV1 and 2 and I haven't updated it completely to align with GV3 stuff for the most part (and even one of the things you can use against the Prevasion agenda is hard countered by Kirin's teleport anyways. Just know that for Kirin's case it's "can you touch electrons" and Layered at that- or you're cooked because it works on things that should naturally be a counter to it like EE. At least it's restricted so he can just hit her with AP and call it there (that is until she may possibly get her L5B end)
Anyway, Hajime EE is Concept Type 1 and Info Type 2 EE, i didn't see Kirin resists these two things so Hajime can use this to delete her, if he use it of course
The latter does exist but Kirin in particular doesn't resist, however- her Ressurection might come into play, though I'm not sure how it interacts because while it is Info based, the end result is still "no existie", which is something she can definitely come back from. Issue comes from that Kirin spams her win button while Hajime can't throw around his win button so recklessly, especially with how Kirin teleports around so often and unpredictably
 
Just know that for Kirin's case it's "can you touch electrons"
Mana and other supernatural energies are
「If I remember it right, magic power, blessing power, and even the sky dragon power in Grasp Gloria, all will lead to the element (origin) if you follow them back to their root. That was what you said right?」

「That’s right. The sacred tree and great tree――let’s just call of them the world tree. This thing is most likely a natural conversion system.」

The energies that were flowing in each of their respective world were like elementary particle at physics. It seemed they were made from very small grains that were smaller than each of them.

That was “element”. It was the smallest material that became the base of any kind of energy.

And then, the world trees that existed at each world were absorbing those elements from somewhere and converted them into energy that suited each world they were in and released them out. That was Hajime’s theory. Ch 481
And he has created a device "Elemagia" that convert electricity into mana.
 
I really don't like arguing against smurf characters, but well, will do at least one post since she is supposed to only had 4D resistances to these things:
Yes and no. The following resistances for Kirin are 4D: Existence Erasure, Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3), Mind Manipulation/Madness Manipulation, Power Nullification, Power Erasure, and Power Absorption, Limited Fate Manipulation and Probability Manipulation, Sealing.
So I will try to believe that this is really the only smurf thing about her.

Based on the fact that he has higher stats, and that he can amp his speed so much (as in, even his basic speed Riftwalk amps him 12x), he may just blitz and one-shot her. She has resurrection so he may not be able to permanently kill her, but at that point he could just send her to another place (like another world) with portals or use some restriction artifacts Grav Farensen (gravity field which she can't fight back with her ls), or just pierce her limbs to immobilize her since she doesn't have regeneration (or use something like one of his 108 Harassment Techniques specifically designed to not kill).
Issue comes from that Kirin spams her win button while Hajime can't throw around his win button so recklessly, especially with how Kirin teleports around so often and unpredictably
Just for the record, previous key Hajime already countered someone able to teleport freely in a random manner by analyzing his fighting style and adapting to it by refining his own combat skills, so that shouldn't be a problem.


Regarding the Prevasion thing, in this case it doesn't matter since the fight is without it but still, since she doesn't have a resistance to information analysis, Hajime should be able to use evolution magic to look at the information of the ability and learn how it works, so maybe he could pull something similar to what he did against the intangibility of Ehit swords, think of something that can trick the ability selection of things to go through. Also, for what it's worth, people with spirit magic are able to touch intangible beings based on whether they have a soul, so in this case maybe he can use it to touch her, funny bit but this is how in-story a being made purely of electricity was countered.


And that's mostly what I had to say.
 
I really don't like arguing against smurf characters, but well, will do at least one post since she is supposed to only had 4D resistances to these things:

So I will try to believe that this is really the only smurf thing about her.
I feel bad for u for dealing with Smurf- sorry bro
Based on the fact that he has higher stats, and that he can amp his speed so much (as in, even his basic speed Riftwalk amps him 12x), he may just blitz and one-shot her. She has resurrection so he may not be able to permanently kill her, but at that point he could just send her to another place (like another world) with portals or use some restriction artifacts Grav Farensen (gravity field which she can't fight back with her ls), or just pierce her limbs to immobilize her since she doesn't have regeneration (or use something like one of his 108 Harassment Techniques specifically designed to not kill).
It's not explained how but she just... kinda escapes other worlds. And there's some interpretations that can claim she can just resist BFR 4D but I'll have to re-check. Unfortunately her actual healing abilities are kinda just goated with her 7+ Passive image pulses- she's just overall a pain.

Also I hate how Speed Equal works but its valid. If we do this then can't he just Riftwalk and just kinda win
Just for the record, previous key Hajime already countered someone able to teleport freely in a random manner by analyzing his fighting style and adapting to it by refining his own combat skills, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Oh no that's not the point I was making I wasn't saying he couldn't pull it off I was saying that he needs to be wise about it since according to the page he's only got one shot, while Kirin can be as reckless as she wants with her wincon
Regarding the Prevasion thing, in this case it doesn't matter since the fight is without it but still, since she doesn't have a resistance to information analysis, Hajime should be able to use evolution magic to look at the information of the ability and learn how it works, so maybe he could pull something similar to what he did against the intangibility of Ehit swords, think of something that can trick the ability selection of things to go through. Also, for what it's worth, people with spirit magic are able to touch intangible beings based on whether they have a soul, so in this case maybe he can use it to touch her, funny bit but this is how in-story a being made purely of electricity was countered.
Specifically electrons? Even then you'd have to argue a layer.
And that's mostly what I had to say.
Will try not to instigate anymore i can feel the pain of fighting a GV char seething from these words
 
I really don't like arguing against smurf characters, but well, will do at least one post since she is supposed to only had 4D resistances to these things:

So I will try to believe that this is really the only smurf thing about her.
Those are her only 4D resistances, yes. For her haxes on the other hand the following are 4D: Layered Sealing, Power Absorption, and Power Nullification(via her Septima, "Radiant Fetters"- either infused with her talismans or through rather intimate physical contact, she can seal away the Septimal powers of other Adepts, completely suppressing them as much as to her liking- as well as borrow their powers in some fashion, such as Gunvolt's to gain her Image Pulse, Prevasion, and Arc Chain abilities. Those who are sealed can be turned into other "lifeforms", such as Gunvolt becoming a canine, in which she can adjust the seal's hold on them to let them turn back into their true forms. Can seal herself in her own sword, and is able to fly alongside her companions. If she choses to, sealed partners of hers can have their immense powers controlled to the point where the user can perform feats they could not do without equipment, such as allowing Gunvolt to infinitely air hop and dash with perfect air control. Can instantly seal away Septimal phemoneon and powers with her talismans infused with her Septima,[14] such as completely bypassing forms of intangibility like the electron transforming Prevasion of Moebius-Gunvolt and the space distorting Vibratio of ZedΩ, energy attacks such as Asimov's Astrasphere Flashfield, the berserk state of Primal Dragons and the radiation they emit as well as their powers, even conjurations made from another person, and concussive energy into her talismans that is released all at once when hit with her sword, as well as sealing foes in general to incapacitate and defeat them.[15]. Radiant Fetters was hypothesized to be able to seal unstable Septimas threatening to break down and age people. With this, she is able to seal Primal Dragon and Berserk Gunvolt's full power away- despite him being by far the most powerful being in the world, with Primal Dragons already being superior to any Septima.), Magnetism Manipulation, Layered Power Nullification, Power Erasure, Power Absorption, and Statistics Reduction (Copen's Image Pulse fires Greed Snatcher, which is capable of bypassing certain kinds of Immortality and Intangibility, as well as instantly kill foes, can also summon Carrera's Image Pulses, one of which able to do the same thing), Invulnerability (With the Djinn's Image Pulse, Kirin can become completely invincible for approximately 90 seconds in gameplay, even against Moebius-Gunvolt's Astral Order), Layered Hacking, Information Manipulation, and Data Manipulation (via Teseo's Image Pulses, who utilizes attacks that are super effective against robots and machines).
 
It's not explained how but she just... kinda escapes other worlds. And there's some interpretations that can claim she can just resist BFR 4D but I'll have to re-check. Unfortunately her actual healing abilities are kinda just goated with her 7+ Passive image pulses- she's just overall a pain.
The bfr in question in this case would just be a portal that things can go through, so I'm not sure if we are thinking about the same thing, and he can also just use it to send something just far away instead of another world/universe, like to the other side of the planet or I guess even to some random point of space (the former he has done and the latter while not displayed should be something he can logically do if he thinks it's necessary).

After reading her healing image pulses I don't think they would really help her against the kind of damage I'm thinking, like maybe they can help to close the wounds (not sure if they can heal that level of injuries though) if Hajime just shot her, but if he pierced her limbs without removing the object piercing her (to prevent the wounds from closing) or by using something like the technique I showed, a technique that continuously deal severe internal damage, I'm not sure if her healing would be able to really cover up for that.
Also I hate how Speed Equal works but its valid. If we do this then can't he just Riftwalk and just kinda win
I mean, more so than speed equal rules it's just that certain characters are a pain with how many times they can amp their normal speed and such, if the fight specified that the character begins with their amps on and thus the other side gets equalized to that speed then that would be a different matter. Yeah, people really tend to focus on the long wall of text and abilities but the truth is that one of the reasons of why Hajime is so difficult to deal with in matches is really because of the amps, specifically the speed amps he can get.
 
The bfr in question in this case would just be a portal that things can go through, so I'm not sure if we are thinking about the same thing, and he can also just use it to send something just far away instead of another world/universe, like to the other side of the planet or I guess even to some random point of space (the former he has done and the latter while not displayed should be something he can logically do if he thinks it's necessary).
Oh if that's the case, yeah I can see it working
After reading her healing image pulses I don't think they would really help her against the kind of damage I'm thinking, like maybe they can help to close the wounds (not sure if they can heal that level of injuries though) if Hajime just shot her, but if he pierced her limbs without removing the object piercing her (to prevent the wounds from closing) or by using something like the technique I showed, a technique that continuously deal severe internal damage, I'm not sure if her healing would be able to really cover up for that.
I see what you're saying but I think at that point it's a matter of opinion- I'm pretty sure you can scale the healing in question to internal damage- I immediately think of GV healing from iron maidens stabbing into his innards and such
I mean, more so than speed equal rules it's just that certain characters are a pain with how many times they can amp their normal speed and such, if the fight specified that the character begins with their amps on and thus the other side gets equalized to that speed then that would be a different matter. Yeah, people really tend to focus on the long wall of text and abilities but the truth is that one of the reasons of why Hajime is so difficult to deal with in matches is really because of the amps, specifically the speed amps he can get.
Yea the speed gap is just annoying. We either say Kirin does the hax thing or Hajime speed amps and the battle just isn't interesting no matter how you slice it
 
I see what you're saying but I think at that point it's a matter of opinion- I'm pretty sure you can scale the healing in question to internal damage- I immediately think of GV healing from iron maidens stabbing into his innards and such
Alright, I meant more so how the damage is constant, like in the scan I showed he locked people with regeneration inside a certain zone for a certain amount of time (due to not wanting them to interfere with his wife fight) by constantly destroying their innards without necessarily going over the point where they would die, so they got grounded without the ability of really fighting back.
 
I mean, more so than speed equal rules it's just that certain characters are a pain with how many times they can amp their normal speed and such, if the fight specified that the character begins with their amps on and thus the other side gets equalized to that speed then that would be a different matter. Yeah, people really tend to focus on the long wall of text and abilities but the truth is that one of the reasons of why Hajime is so difficult to deal with in matches is really because of the amps, specifically the speed amps he can get.
Yea the speed gap is just annoying. We either say Kirin does the hax thing or Hajime speed amps and the battle just isn't interesting no matter how you slice it
So should I restrict Hajime's Riftwalk then?
 
I mean, more so than speed equal rules it's just that certain characters are a pain with how many times they can amp their normal speed and such, if the fight specified that the character begins with their amps on and thus the other side gets equalized to that speed then that would be a different matter. Yeah, people really tend to focus on the long wall of text and abilities but the truth is that one of the reasons of why Hajime is so difficult to deal with in matches is really because of the amps, specifically the speed amps he can get.
Yea the speed gap is just annoying. We either say Kirin does the hax thing or Hajime speed amps and the battle just isn't interesting no matter how you slice it
I've made it so that Hajime starts with Riftwalk and is equalized to Kirin's speed. So can this work now?
 
So should I restrict Hajime's Riftwalk then?
I've made it so that Hajime starts with Riftwalk and is equalized to Kirin's speed. So can this work now?
I mean, if you restrict it then it would just be a fun watch for the sake of having fun, so it couldn't be added to the profiles if that was your intention, if that was not and you just want fun then fair and go ahead.
 
I mean, if you restrict it then it would just be a fun watch for the sake of having fun, so it couldn't be added to the profiles if that was your intention, if that was not and you just want fun then fair and go ahead.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't matches with restricted abilities still be added so long as said abilities are either optional or breach into a separate tier? Cause Hajime's Riftwalk is 1 tier above the rest of his speed enhancements so I think this could be restricted while still having an addable matchup.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't matches with restricted abilities still be added so long as said abilities are either optional or breach into a separate tier? Cause Hajime's Riftwalk is 1 tier above the rest of his speed enhancements so I think this could be restricted while still having an addable matchup.
No you can't, this is speed amp not AP aim, he can have immeasurable speed amp and it is still valid, of course the you can restrict it and the match can still be debated, but the result will not be added to the profile.

The only occasion where speed amp is invalid is if the speed amp user have their normal speed stats slower than the opponent, the slower one can still use speed amp but not up the point blitzing the opposition. But in this case, Hajime have higher base speed compare to Kirin so even if he amp himself to blitz her it still count
 
No you can't, this is speed amp not AP aim, he can have immeasurable speed amp and it is still valid, of course the you can restrict it and the match can still be debated, but the result will not be added to the profile.

The only occasion where speed amp is invalid is if the speed amp user have their normal speed stats slower than the opponent, the slower one can still use speed amp but not up the point blitzing the opposition. But in this case, Hajime have higher base speed compare to Kirin so even if he amp himself to blitz her it still count
Hmm I see, so I guess this is a mismatch then.
 
Lmao Mystic I appreciate the GV spotlight but you could shine some attention on the less BS main chars, might spark more interesting conversation
 
Lmao Mystic I appreciate the GV spotlight but you could shine some attention on the less BS main chars, might spark more interesting conversation
I did make matchups Teseo and Zonda, but unfortunately neither one able to get much attention. I'm gonna search up some matchups for Stratos and Asroc next.
 
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