A red demon fights a salty guy

[Setsuna_tenma]

Magnus

vs

Salt

Tier 2C

Speed equalized

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Salt can't kill Magnus


But


His Math Manipulation allows him to **** up people's stats


So he could just say


Math Says that Magnus Stats = Magnus is 10-B

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Why is speed equalized? Both are immeaurable

 

[DMB_1]

Okay, but how good is Magnus' type 5 Acausality?

Also, that Math manipulation is a huge NLF, considering Magnus has the AP advantage.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

His type 5 is he lives in a realm where the concept of causality doesn't exist. How does his Math Manipulation work?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Oh yes magnus definitely has an AP advantage, by hundreds of times

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

When math is erased numerical logic falls apart, and ceases to function. Same with physics, gravity, etc.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I am fairly sure that Magnus isn't bound by any of those things.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Definitely not physics and gravity.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I am fairly sure that Magnus isn't bound by any of those things.

Even things like quantifiable strength falls apart and goes into flux, which I'm guessing he is bound by, at least on a 4D scale

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Demons in fallen London **** with concepts on a regular basis, and Salt is waaaaaaaaaay above demons.

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Uses MAth manip

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

That isn't going to to work on someone of Magnus's nature.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Why wouldn't stat reduction work?

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

How does it work firstly? With Math Manipulation?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Maybe? It's not explained. He just sets all your stats to minimum.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Has he done it to anyone who is vastly above him in power?

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Also Magnus could reverse that ability. When someone uses an Psychic ability on him he has reflected it or reversed it in the past. Is it an instant intagible effect, such as a though? Or it requires some sort of blast?

He could drain the powers of Salt maybe? Nullify them? Conceptually Mind Hax him?

Transmutation into a Daemon Minion? Remember the nature of Daemons this isn't normal transmutation.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

What extent are his resistences? He could die by just looking at Magnus if not high enough. Magnus could summon Daemons upon Daemons.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

>Conceptual Mind Hax


The Dawn Machine mindhaxes someone using laws, and in verse Laws = Concepts, but the thing can't mindhax Salt

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Erasing physics, math and life won't work on Magnus. Firstly he's unbound and beyond the physics of the materium. His avatars passively warp all the laws of physics with their presence. Math is pretty much the same thing. He's a Daemon of Tzeentch which should mean he has the essence of infinite contradictions and possibilities. He isn't living or dead conventionally either, he's unbound by morality.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"Math is pretty much the same thing. He's a Daemon of Tzeentch which should mean he has the essence of infinite contradictions and possibilities."

What?

And Physics/Life/Death/Math are just 4 examples of concept erasure in verse, they can work on anything

 

[DMB_1]

>Conceptual Mind Hax
The Dawn Machine mindhaxes someone using laws, and in verse Laws = Concepts, but the thing can't mindhax Salt

How is "ConceptualMindhax" a thing? Being able to use mind manipulation an a type 1 abstract is just Mid Manipulation + Non-Physical Interaction.

And using "a concept" to manipulate someone's mind doesn't necessarily make it more potent.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Magnus' mind hax works on Tzeentch Daemons who are made out of multiple concepts, metaphors and such, infinite possibility and contradiction. Even the most fodder Daemon Magnus encountered Tzeentch created to communicate Magnus was made out of infinite possibility. So it should work on Salt who is just a sole conceptual being?

Conceptual Mind Hax is just Mind Manipulation that works on Type 1 Conceptual Beings. Therereby manipulating the concept itself. I'm not going to derail into potency because I wasn't implying that anyway.

 

[The_Causality]

This versus maybe turn into a stomp soon because of the Conceptual Manipulation downgrade of the Fallen london's verse

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

U just mad salt was beating nil

 

[DMB_1]

This versus maybe turn into a stomp soon because of the Conceptual Manipulation downgrade of the Fallen london's verse

You are just Salty because Causality is just a type 3 concept

 

[The_Causality]

You are just Salty because Causality is just a type 3 concept

Yes

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

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