A Problem With Beyond Dimensional Existence

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

I have a problem wit this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Beyond-Dimensional_Existence

Specifically Type 1

"Type 1: Non-dimensional: those whose nature is very different from the concepts of space and time (and everything that is in it), such as aspatial and atemporal objects, meaning the concept of physics has little to no influence on them. They usually possess an abstract, cosmic, or transdual nature, which makes them physically invulnerable. Specifically, these are adimensional objects that can be found in universes with an emphasis on very advanced mathematics and geometry, such as ultimate ensembles, or in universes where there are characters with various dimensionless characteristics."

Aspatial Is Spaceless And Atemporal Is Timeless right?

How is This Beyond Dimensional Existence? Are we talking about one thing being SpatioTemporal and one not being SpatioTemporal?

This Vaguely indicates that things that don't belong to SpaceTime are automatically dimensionless. Or things with both no space and no time.

Unless Dimensions of Metrics are SpatioTemporal?

Because If this is The Case Planes like The 3rd And 4th Dimension Of Consciousness Aka The Astral Worlds And The Astral Plane would Be Beyond Dimensional Existence objectively.

https://themysticmedium.com/the-astral-plane/

and

https://books.google.com/books?id=p...stral plane is spaceless and timeless&f=false

and

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_astralplane03.htm And https://www.insightstate.com/spirituality/what-is-the-astral-plane-like/ And https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_dimensionshyperdimensions02.htm

Also Type 2: Beyond-dimensional: Dimensionless beings whose nature is not only different but also conceptually superior to the very concept of dimensionality. Such characters have the same capabilities as high-dimensional entities, only being superior in relation to any geometric size, that is, any type of physics will be insignificant in comparison to them. The difference between Non-Dimensional beings and Beyond-dimensional is while non-dimensional beings can be considered adimensional objects within a dimensional space that are transcendent to everything in it, beyond-dimension cannot fit within any dimensional space, as it is "too big" even in comparison

How is being bigger >>>>> being transcendent to something? Adimensioned Beings should have the same caps as the Beyond dimensionals because both are transcendent to dimensions which means they should both have the same abilities those of Higher dimensionality do.

I'd suggest removing this fixing this or specifying this..... of course if it's wrong.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...BfAAzLmHeugDv1K240DJVpA95WC-jlgO2_kMA-NNZ6ioC

 

[Antoniofer]

Welp, yeah, dimensions measure space, so transcending the concept of dimension is also transcending space; time can also be considered a dimension, so transcend dimension and you transcend both.

"Dimensions" like the Astral and Buddaic Planes aren't dimensions in the physical sense, they are higher planes of existence, that its pretty different (more related to esoterism).

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

@Antonio so would Erasing everything SpatioTemporal Equal Beyond Dimensional Existence?

I am aware they are not dimensions of metrics but of consciousness or otherwise a realm of existence.

They still have at least type 1 beyond dimensional existence, specifically the Astral worlds and the Astral Plane Being an Emanation Of The Eternal, Abstract, Infinite, Timeless And Spaceless which the last two specifically catches the fish with a hook.

 

[Antoniofer]

Yeah, not a fan of dividing stuff into type. In short erasing all physical time-space wouldn't affect esoteric or metaphysical realms, but erasing the concept of time-space would erase anytjing that is loosely definied as space or time (including spiritual realms, dreamworld, few interpretations of Heaven or Hell, etc.)

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

The Astral Worlds And The Astral Plane is not Heaven, it's way above those and described as a timeless-spaceless continuum and a nexus leading to other planes in fact it contains many heavens and hell's not just from one religion but several. But still Astral Planes And Astral Worlds are what I said in the previous comments, if they are spaceless and Timeless And aren't at least type 1 of Beyond dimensional existence then there needs to be a recheck and a correction.

 

[Sera_EX]

That's not even what it says

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

Actually on the contrary, I posted what the page says itself. And I'm drawing conclusions on the implications, all I am saying is their should be specifications or a removal.

It saying something both Atemporal (Timeless) And Aspatial (Spaceless) is A Qualifier For Beyond Dimensional Existence is clearly something to be concerned about.

 

[Sera_EX]

In fiction, hyperbolic language is commonplace. Just because something is considered spaceless or timeless doesn't mean it's 1-A, the same applies to BDE. Type 1 is just for 1-A objects that aren't "oversized" (too large for dimensional quantities).

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

Type 1 never even says that or implies it, type 1 indicates that anything that lives without any SpatioTemporal properties is Beyond Dimensional Existence, you have to prove it's not spaceless or timeless that's a generalization context and other things of course have to be taken into account but if it's SpaceLess And TimeLess what to do? If this is what it is then the page should specify. Dimensions Of Metrics are Spaces and Sometimes Of Time, if you're Spaceless And Timeless Though you do not belong to SpaceTime at all, Aspatial And Atemporal Henceforth, it's described in the type 1 field that Aspatial And Atemporal Objects is Beyond Dimensional Existence.

 

[Sera_EX]

It's not saying that. That's your assumption.

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

It's not saying that. That's your assumption.

Oh really? "Non-dimensional: those whose nature is very different from the concepts of space and time (and everything that is in it), such as aspatial and atemporal objects, meaning the concept of physics has little to no influence on them." This is a quote from the Page Itself.

Being Aspatial And Atemporal Is quite literally a Qualifier Of An Example Of Type 1 Beyond Dimensional Existence.

 

[TheImagineBreaker121212]

No Cap.