A Monster fights an Android

[Stillwinston]

Okay so years back I did this match and it was deemed a stomp in 2B's favour iirc, figured might as well try this again.

• Speed is equalised
• Both start 8 metres apart
• Fight takes place in the Arizona desert
• Both are 7-A (Garou is Post-Darkshine)
• SBA otherwise I guess

Hero Hunter: 0

Glory To Mankind: 0

Incon: 0

Garou

Garou (ガロウ, Garō) is a former disciple of Bang and was considered a prodigy. But one day, he was kicked out from his dojo for going on a rampage once he got bored with everyone. He's one of the strongest characters in the series and plays a major role as the main villain in the Hero Hunt arc...

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YoRHa No.2 Type B

2B is one of the main protagonists of NieR: Automata. She is a female model of the Type B (Battle) series of androids produced by YoRHa. She was created for the purpose of fighting the machines which have invaded the planet. Tier: 7-A, higher with Flight Unit, 6-C with Black Box Detonation Name...

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[Arkansalter2]

Is 2B's Immo 4 combat applicable?

 

[Ebihara]

Is 2B's Immo 4 combat applicable?

she respawns in a new body right? Not sure how long this takes her out of commission.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Doesn't look like it's combat applicable.
Going with Garou here.

 

[TheAngryOrange]

While not outright stated it can't be very long.

A few things to note.

One is that the process to build their new body is the same process they use for their teleporters. Upload the mind, build new body, download mind into new body. It'd be a bad teleporter if it took hours.

The closest thing we have to an actual time table is the final descent to Earth where 2B and 9S have to make an emergency recall to the bunker by blowing themselves up. If the cutscenes are accurate it happened in seconds.

But outside of that we don't know.

Also, don't know a thing about Garou but glazing over his profile, this guy sounds like Adam. Instant learning, evolution, regeneration from anything not fatal.

Immediate reaction is his similarity to Adam does suggest an edge for 2B. But looking over his profile two moves that look scary and that's Roaring Skies and Ripping Fist and Fa Jin.

One can destroy organs which means 2B's black box is in danger. And the other can go through blocking which means her OP shield wouldn't work.

How would those 2 attack react to attack reflections though?

 

[TheAngryOrange]

Actually question. Time dilation slows time to 1/10 the speed. Overclock gives her a 10x speed boost. Stack them and you get a 100x speed boost. Can Garou do anything about that?

 

[Stillwinston]

That does sound quite difficult to get around, couldn't Garou's ability to adapt make him realise he's being blitzed and then negate it? Idk much about Nier is 2B going to open with this or not?

 

[Stillwinston]

Bump?

 

[TheAngryOrange]

In game, 2B's fighting style is usually left up to the player. The books don't give much description other than her goal is to double tap her opponents. In the anime, when she ended up fighting other YoRHa she speed blitzed them.

And this isn't the only thing she has. Mind you that even if she doesn't stack them so she has a 10x speed advantage, that still statues the other guy. She can effectively throw 10 punches in the time it takes Garou to throw one.

She also has a gravity bomb that can immobilize opponents even stronger than her. Garou gets caught in it, she gets free reign until the gravity goes away.

Then you have her laser which penetrates targets so no blocking.

Actually upon second reading I have to wonder if Roaring Aura Sky Ripping Fist does counter her shield. Because there is a decent amount of space between the wall of her shield and her. And Garou has to hit a target for the technique to work, right? He can't just RASRF the air.


From Garou's stats, he can evolve himself to the point where 2B can't do anything to him. But how fast can he evolve? Because it seems 2B is equipped to be able to kill him before he reaches that point.

 

[Arkansalter2]

But how fast can he evolve?

According to supps, VERY fast. He evolves so fast to the point where if he witnesses a move, he'll evolve to it.

 

[TheAngryOrange]

It says if he witnesses a move he can evolve his technique to it. But he can't instantly max out his stats. Also shown in the scans where his upper stats are taken where he still needed time to evolve to that point. Also stated in his weakness where he prolongs a fight so he can have time to become stronger.

 

[Stillwinston]

Bump?

I guess if 2B can speed blitz maybe we should swap her out for Adam or Eve?

 

[TheAngryOrange]

I don't think it's as simple as Speedblitz therefore stomp. Both have the ability to out-stat each other. Garou's highest is higher than anything 2B can achieve but he has to evolve his way to it. 2B can achieve a degree of stompage that she can do immediately but only if she uses the right tools. But if she fails to kill Garou in a timely manner, he evolves past that then stomps her.

 

[Stillwinston]

Alright well guess we can stay on target then, seems to come down to if 2B can kill Garou before he can beat her

 

[TheAngryOrange]

In the mean time you can put me for 2B.



Overclock (10x speed boost)
Time slow (Slows enemy 10x)
Worse is two are stacked
Allows her to kill before Garou can even move let alone evolve.


Gravity well
Traps/immobilizes Garou. He still experiencing real time so in theory he could evolve strong enough to escape eventually. But if he doesn't evolve fast enough, 2B kills him while he's trapped.

Shield
Render 2B invincible. While Garou experiences real time and can move, 2B has defeated instant learners before without needing invincibility. And it's easier to fight when you can't take damage. 2B only needs to win the fight before Garou evolves too far. That said the fact Garou can move and fight means 2B's win in direct combat is not guaranteed compared to going ham on a frozen target.

But in the books, Adam is born, get hits by a single attack from 2B, and is able learn how to dodge 2B from that one attack. 2B still beats him in a 1v1 in their third encounter. So a case can be made that 2B can win.


Volt
Garou has resistance to electricity. Not immunity. It's still going to hurt him while slowing him down. We see this with machines. Normally the electricity incapacitates and paralyzes. But elite machines are only slowed.



Decoy, mines, lasers, attack reflection.

Garou can learn about these after seeing them. But until he sees them, he's going to be taken by surprise. If he tries blocking the laser, it'll pierce his defenses. He might learn how to identify the decoy after falling for it the first time. He might know landmines but he might not know that the mortars raining from the sky are land mines. Or 2B's attack reflection.

Air slices and beast weapons
Same deal but with more conditionals. If 2B slices at him and he dodges side ways, he'll see that the attack range is much longer than the weapon and won't get hit by it. If he keeps away with range he'll get caught off guard the first time, won't fall for it again.


In another match I saw the argument of overwhelming his analytical prediction. Missile pod and he'll have to deal with 2B, volleys of about a dozen homing missiles, mortars falling from the sky, and those mortars turning into landmines. Laser pod and he has to deal with 2B, a laser fire, and about 15 bouncing bullets.


Self destruct
Worse comes to worse, 2B self destructs turning it into an incon.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[TheAngryOrange]

Bump