A Goatman decides to eat some Cereal (Granolah VS Moro)

[CiscoTheSoto]

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[AwkguyDB]

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[TauanVictor]

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[Gilad_Hyperstar]

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[CiscoTheSoto]

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[CiscoTheSoto]

I don't see why people believe Moro can finish Granolah quickly enough before Moro's body begins to mutate like it did against UI Goku. And again, Granolah was able to defeat UI Goku with a single well-placed attack. While Goku eventually learned how to counter the technique, he still was nearly defeated and had to have Vegeta buy him time. Moro will be defeated in just the same way, since Granolah is no-nonsense, whereas Moro likes to extend his fights for his own sadistic amusement or to wait until he absorbs his energy. Granolah is just way more skilled than Moro in practically every way, barring magic abilities.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I don't see why people believe Moro can finish Granolah quickly enough before Moro's body begins to mutate like it did against UI Goku. And again, Granolah was able to defeat UI Goku with a single well-placed attack

Goku was off guard and had his UI weakened in order for Granolah to strike him. Before that, Granolah was helpless against Perfected UI Goku and outright said he had no weakness to strike, forcing him to wait for him to weaken.

Besides, the pressure point strike technique is similar to Hit's technique, who with it is able to one shot even people comparable to him as he strikes the vital points

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Goku was off guard and had his UI weakened in order for Granolah to strike him. Before that, Granolah was helpless against Perfected UI Goku and outright said he had no weakness to strike, forcing him to wait for him to weaken.

Yea, because Granolah had split his power beforehand, so naturally it would make sense that Granolah would fare much worse against UI Goku. Don't use that initial battle as evidence of how a battle against UI Goku and full-powered Granolah would go. And besides, the whole point of Ultra Instinct is that you can't ever be off-guard because your body automatically reacts, which means that Granolah was able to strike faster than UI Goku could react. Even after Goku figured out the trick to Granolah's vital point technique, he still took damage from Granolah's attacks, and he couldn't do any real damage to Granolah either.

In addition, just because Goku managed to figure out the trick behind Granolah's vital point attacks doesn't mean that Moro would. Goku is a martial arts prodigy who has trained under multiple masters and learned various techniques: it's been shown that no technique works on him twice. Moro does not have that same battle skill or martial arts mastery. I don't see how he'd be smart enough to figure out the same strategy that Goku did. He's too arrogant to think of a strategy like that and would just try to overpower Granolah.

Even if Granolah couldn't identify any openings to use his pin-point attacks against Moro initially, he could still easily hold his own against Moro with his plethora of other abilities and wait long enough for either Moro's accuracy to decrease or for him to lose control of Ultra Instinct. Besides, Goku had been training to increase the effectiveness of Ultra Instinct and was experienced at using it many times before, whereas Moro had only just recently acquired the ability, meaning that the time it would take for the accuracy of Moro's Ultra Instinct to decrease would be significantly shorter than it was for Goku, which would only give Granolah an even better chance to land a fatal blow.

 

[LeSupremeKing1]

Even if Granolah couldn't identify any openings to use his pin-point attacks against Moro initially, he could still easily hold his own against Moro with his plethora of other abilities and wait long enough for either Moro's accuracy to decrease or for him to lose control of Ultra Instinct. Besides, Goku had been training to increase the effectiveness of Ultra Instinct and was experienced at using it many times before, whereas Moro had only just recently acquired the ability, meaning that the time it would take for the accuracy of Moro's Ultra Instinct to decrease would be significantly shorter than it was for Goku, which would only give Granolah an even better chance to land a fatal blow.

The long game does not benefit Granolah in the slightest, he gets his energy absorbed and then becomes too weak to stop moro. He can’t end it quickly because of Moro’s MUI. And there’s no evidence Merus’s ui drops in accuracy like Goku’s does so you can’t even assume there would be an opening eventually. Moro mutating/being driven insane by his power only makes the situation worse for Granolah as that leads to him becoming Planet Moro which Granolah has NO COUNTER FOR. It’s essentially an auto loss.

So Moro still wins.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

And there’s no evidence Merus’s ui drops in accuracy like Goku’s does so you can’t even assume there would be an opening eventually

There actually is. Whis said that the reason why Goku's UI has a time limit is because he uses it as a form rather than as a technique, and Moro has the same issue once he absorbs Merus. If anything, Moro's UI is even less refined than Goku's given his lack of mastery of the technique

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

The long game does not benefit Granolah in the slightest, he gets his energy absorbed and then becomes too weak to stop moro. He can’t end it quickly because of Moro’s MUI. And there’s no evidence Merus’s ui drops in accuracy like Goku’s does so you can’t even assume there would be an opening eventually. Moro mutating/being driven insane by his power only makes the situation worse for Granolah as that leads to him becoming Planet Moro which Granolah has NO COUNTER FOR. It’s essentially an auto loss.

Granolah just snipes Moro's gem with a charged-up energy blast, and besides, the only reason Moro even became Planet Moro in the first place was because Goku showed him mercy and was distracted by Whis, which gave Moro the chance to merge with the planet. When Moro gained Merus' power, he didn't focus on absorbing energy and instead utilized mostly physical attacks, so the same would apply here, and since Granolah can read his opponent's movements expertly with his right eye, I see no reason why Granolah shouldn't be able to hold his own long enough for Moro's body to begin failing him and Granolah to finish Moro off with a charged finger beam.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Granolah just snipes Moro's gem with a charged-up energy blast, and besides, the only reason Moro even became Planet Moro in the first place was because Goku showed him mercy and was distracted by Whis, which gave Moro the chance to merge with the planet. When Moro gained Merus' power, he didn't focus on absorbing energy and instead utilized mostly physical attacks, so the same would apply here, and since Granolah can read his opponent's movements expertly with his right eye, I see no reason why Granolah shouldn't be able to hold his own long enough for Moro's body to begin failing him and Granolah to finish Moro off with a charged finger beam.

It's not that Moro didn't try to absorb energy, but rather than he couldn't absorb Goku's energy due to Perfected UI protecting him. Once Goku got trapped by Moro when he became Planet Moro, his energy was drained by Moro

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

It's not that Moro didn't try to absorb energy, but rather than he couldn't absorb Goku's energy due to Perfected UI protecting him. Once Goku got trapped by Moro when he became Planet Moro, his energy was drained by Moro

I don't ever recall any moment when Goku was explicitly stated to have a resistance to being drained thanks to Perfect UI. It's just that Moro preferred to drain energy in his more weakened state during combat when he knew his opponent was vastly stronger than him, but after having consumed several planets and the energy from several fighters, he became confident enough that he didn't need to absorb the energy of his opponents to win. Thus he only resorted to draining the energy of his opponents after he defeated them or when he was in a desperate situation.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I don't ever recall any moment when Goku was explicitly stated to have a resistance to being drained thanks to Perfect UI. It's just that Moro preferred to drain energy in his more weakened state during combat when he knew his opponent was vastly stronger than him, but after having consumed several planets and the energy from several fighters, he became confident enough that he didn't need to absorb the energy of his opponents to win. Thus he only resorted to draining the energy of his opponents after he defeated them or when he was in a desperate situation.

Moro couldn't drain his energy before when he used UI Sign, and Perfected UI is just an all-around better version of UI Sign

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Moro couldn't drain his energy before when he used UI Sign, and Perfected UI is just an all-around better version of UI Sign

The reason that Moro couldn't drain Goku's energy in UI Sign wasn't because of it acted as a shield, it was because Goku was moving too fast for Moro to target him to drain his energy. So that means Granolah could just dodge Moro's attempts to drain his energy by using Instant Transmission to go to multiple places and make it harder for Moro to track him, which only serves as a bigger plus for Granolah. In the same chapter, Moro explicitly states, like I've already mentioned, that he waits until after defeating his opponents now to drain their energy.

 

[GodOfThunder]

Granolah wins the majority of the time the only chance moro has is if he can absorb Granolah quickly before he overwhelms him

 

[LeSupremeKing1]

Granolah just snipes Moro's gem with a charged-up energy blast,

And how does he know shattering the crystal kills him? And why would he sit there and let Granolah tag him? Right….

and besides, the only reason Moro even became Planet Moro in the first place was because Goku showed him mercy and was distracted by Whis,

Which distracted Goku for a split second… you think Moro with all his tricks with magic and illusions cannot buy a split second? You’re crazy lmao

Moro gained Merus' power, he didn't focus on absorbing energy and instead utilized mostly physical attacks,

Yes at first he used his newly copied abilities like he did with every other character… literally a couple pages into the fight he started using his illusions and whatnot again which is what he uses in his regular fighting style. There’s nothing saying hes completely against the usage of absorbing at all lmao.

so the same would apply here, and since Granolah can read his opponent's movements expertly with his right eye, I see no reason why Granolah shouldn't be able to hold his own long enough for Moro's body to begin failing him and Granolah to finish Moro off with a charged finger beam.

Granolah couldn’t perceive anything when Goku’s mui was active, and Moro has the same thing. Goku’s given resistance to information analysis for that very reason…
And again the longer the fight goes the worse it gets for Granolah. Moro continues to bloat with power and get stronger, merge with the planet, absorb granolah’s power, etc etc. There is no circumstance in which Granolah kills Moro before he loses.

There actually is. Whis said that the reason why Goku's UI has a time limit is because he uses it as a form rather than as a technique, and Moro has the same issue once he absorbs Merus. If anything, Moro's UI is even less refined than Goku's given his lack of mastery of the technique

Because GOKU’s ui equated it to be something paired with his white haired form which causes a drain which is why he spent time learning to use it without the technique.
Merus doesn’t have this problem, ultra instinct is their base state, it is not some special transformation for them. But even if we run with your interpretation really quickly, an energy drain doesn’t matter if Moro can recover the energy, which he does via absorbing the planets energy.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

And how does he know shattering the crystal kills him? And why would he sit there and let Granolah tag him? Right….

Granolah could fly a far distance into the atmosphere so Moro wouldn't be able to drain his energy and he could just gather the energy needed. Besides, his right eye allows him to analyze the vital points and weak spots of his opponents, and considering the crystal is just sitting there on top of his forehead, I don't think it'd be too hard for Granolah to figure out that's his weak point. There's also the little fact that Granolah has literally fought clones of Seven-Three and sniped all of their forehead crystals to kill them, so if he sees that same crystal on Moro's head, it won't be hard to put two-and-two together.

Granolah couldn’t perceive anything when Goku’s mui was active, and Moro has the same thing. Goku’s given resistance to information analysis for that very reason…
And again the longer the fight goes the worse it gets for Granolah. Moro continues to bloat with power and get stronger, merge with the planet, absorb granolah’s power, etc etc. There is no circumstance in which Granolah kills Moro before he loses.

It's not reliable to scale Granolah's clone as a reflection of how full-power Granolah would do against MUI, and there's no evidence full-power Granolah would be incapable of reading MUI Goku's movements. Gas was capable of fighting against and reacting to both MUI Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta simultaneously, and Granolah was capable of fighting relatively evenly against Gas, so coupled with his special eye, I don't see any reason why Granolah wouldn't be able to hold his own against Moro. Again, Goku had gotten stronger and achieved greater control of his UI form during the Granolah arc, so Granolah should slightly scale above.

Because GOKU’s ui equated it to be something paired with his white haired form which causes a drain which is why he spent time learning to use it without the technique.
Merus doesn’t have this problem, ultra instinct is their base state, it is not some special transformation for them. But even if we run with your interpretation really quickly, an energy drain doesn’t matter if Moro can recover the energy, which he does via absorbing the planets energy.

Again, Moro will have a very limited amount of time before his body mutates due to lack of control of Ultra Instinct, and since he's sadistic and likes to extend fights for his own amusement, he won't go full power against Granolah. Even if he did, Granolah could still hold his own enough for Moro's body to mutate. If Granolah doesn't finish him off then and Moro merges with the planet, again he can just snipe from afar. Moro's ability to absorb energy when he merged with the planet appears to be limited to people touching the ground, as Vegeta and the others were apparently fine once they flew. Granolah would likely struggle, but could still probably manage thanks to his numerous abilities. And assuming he can't destroy Moro's crystal in time and Moro self-destructs, Granolah could just flee the planet using Instant Transmission, as he's capable of easily teleporting across numerous planets in an instant, which would likely give Granolah enough time to escape the galaxy-sized explosion. Granolah has "likely Self-Sustenance: Type 1" on his profile due to being able to fight on an asteroid, so assuming this is true, that ability to survive in space would only be enhanced after his wish. Furthermore, since Gas can travel through space unabated and he made the same wish, I see no reason why Granolah shouldn't be able to do the same. Further proving he could just flee to a point in space where he'd be safe from the blast, or at least far enough where the energy impact wouldn't be as big and he could protect himself with an energy shield.

 

[LeSupremeKing1]

Granolah could fly a far distance into the atmosphere so Moro wouldn't be able to drain his energy and he could just gather the energy needed.

Ok let’s say for some bizarre reason Granolah decides to run to the upper atmosphere AS SOON AS THE BATTLE STARTS. Not only does Moro have the range to attack him if he flies (Planetary, intergalactic, and universal ranges on his profile), that’s just GREATER incentive to not chase him and just absorb his power/the planet. So running from more nets him the win still.

Besides, his right eye allows him to analyze the vital points and weak spots of his opponents, and considering the crystal is just sitting there on top of his forehead, I don't think it'd be too hard for Granolah to figure out that's his weak point.

I literally explained why that doesn’t work in my last post. Mui provides resistance to granolah’s right eye abilities. And there’s no reason for him to 1. Believe a random crystal on his head has anything to do with him being that strong. 2. Let him even destroy the crystal in the first place? Moro is not an idiot nor is he immobile. He knows how to dodge, form ki barriers, and not be an idiot. On top of that his crystal is obviously amplified by his ki so it’s not like it’s something that can be casually destroyed.

There's also the little fact that Granolah has literally fought clones of Seven-Three and sniped all of their forehead crystals to kill them, so if he sees that same crystal on Moro's head, it won't be hard to put two-and-two together.

You think he’s gonna assume Moro has the same weakness as clones who appear nothing like Moro besides the singular forehead crystal who he beat weeks/months ago on as one of his many bounties he had to claim in his life? Yeah I’m betting he’s not gonna make the connection at all, nor would it matter.

It's not reliable to scale Granolah's clone as a reflection of how full-power Granolah would do against MUI,

Even if we assume they aren’t the same level of power it’s the SAME ABILITY HE USES ON EVERYONE him being physically stronger has nothing to do with the information analysis ability of his eye my guy.

Gas was capable of fighting against and reacting to both MUI Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta simultaneously,

A superior version of gas fought superior versions of mui and ue Goku, sure.

and Granolah was capable of fighting relatively evenly against Gas,

Against a SUPPRESED version of gas that isn’t even in his strongest form, who is implied to not have been even using his “strongest in the universe” strength. That does not scale Granolah at all.

so coupled with his special eye, I don't see any reason why Granolah wouldn't be able to hold his own against Moro.

his eye that doesn’t work, and on top of that his clone with half his power got full on PERCEPTION BLITZED by mui Goku. His brain literally could not process Goku’s movements before getting hit like bruh, there’s no way you genuinely believe a 2x amp saves him.

Again, Goku had gotten stronger and achieved greater control of his UI form during the Granolah arc, so Granolah should slightly scale above.

Granolah’s eye has no scaling to mui goku from the Granolah arc at all until maybe if you are arguing him charging up an attack, in which disadvantages him in a fight where he needs to be on Moros ass the entire time before moro gets stronger and overpowers him or he’ll fuse with the planet and auto win.

Again, Moro will have a very limited amount of time before his body mutates due to lack of control of Ultra Instinct, and since he's sadistic and likes to extend fights for his own amusement, he won't go full power against Granolah.

Yeah and Moro in his “sadistic nature” still absorbs people in his fights, and even attempted it on ui omen Goku when it looked like he was anywhere close to his level of power.

And the last part of your comment is a blatant lie. Moro NEVER suppressed himself in character for a fight, he’s not Goku and I would like you to show me any instance where he lowers his power. The only instance coming close to this was him not killing piccolo, and what he did instead was literally blast him to the point he couldn’t get up so he could absorb him and weren’t you arguing Granolah was relative or stronger than Moro? So why would moro suppress himself against someone “stronger” or “relative”.

Even if he did, Granolah could still hold his own enough for Moro's body to mutate.

Why would Granolah draw out the fight? For what purpose? He doesn’t know moro is gonna go insane, all he knows is he’s fighting a dude getting exponentially stronger similar to ultra ego Vegeta.
In fact let’s take a look at how Granolah fights. Pressure point strikes via ki or hand to hand combat. Cool Moro dodges all of that in his ui state, by some miracle if he’s hit by one he gets stronger and stronger. Now Moros amped and flying at Granolah with speeds relative to mui and if he doesn’t outright blitz he damn sure would outspeed him. Granolah uses clones in an attempt to overwhelm, to which Moro responds by starting to absorb them and the planet. Moro blitzes the clones (and we know real Granolah retains that damage, so granolah’s also getting hurt in whatever way he dismantles these clones) and then starts to beat up, bully, or absorb Granolah. But let’s say with some miracle Granolah avoids all of this and decides charging an attack from afar is wise. Moro, requiring a new body merges with the planet, still absorbing Granolah’s power, and now granolah’s too weak to do anything and Moro kills him.

Granolah could just flee the planet using Instant Transmission

Show me any instance of granolah fleeing the planet in a fight for no reason that’s completely out of character. and even if he did moro has intergalactic/universal range.

capable of easily teleporting across numerous planets in an instant, which would likely give Granolah enough time to escape the galaxy-sized explosion.

IF HE SENSES THE KI OF SOMEONE HE KNOWS. If you want to assert that there’s someone outside of the galaxy he knows the ki of that he can teleport, you can try to prove that, good luck it’s not possible.

Further proving he could just flee to a point in space where he'd be safe from the blast, or at least far enough where the energy impact wouldn't be as big and he could protect himself with an energy shield.

Granolah is not whis, he has no way of discerning the range of the blast. And Granolah loses the fight long before moro explodes anyway.

Moro still bodies.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Ok let’s say for some bizarre reason Granolah decides to run to the upper atmosphere AS SOON AS THE BATTLE STARTS. Not only does Moro have the range to attack him if he flies (Planetary, intergalactic, and universal ranges on his profile), that’s just GREATER incentive to not chase him and just absorb his power/the planet. So running from more nets him the win still.

I was referring to if Moro merged with the planet.

I literally explained why that doesn’t work in my last post. Mui provides resistance to granolah’s right eye abilities. And there’s no reason for him to 1. Believe a random crystal on his head has anything to do with him being that strong. 2. Let him even destroy the crystal in the first place? Moro is not an idiot nor is he immobile. He knows how to dodge, form ki barriers, and not be an idiot. On top of that his crystal is obviously amplified by his ki so it’s not like it’s something that can be casually destroyed.

Again, referring to if Moro merged with the planet, as it would be a bigger target for Granolah and make it easier for him to hit from afar.

You think he’s gonna assume Moro has the same weakness as clones who appear nothing like Moro besides the singular forehead crystal who he beat weeks/months ago on as one of his many bounties he had to claim in his life? Yeah I’m betting he’s not gonna make the connection at all, nor would it matter.

I don't see why he wouldn't make some correlation if they have the same type of crystal in the exact same spot.

A superior version of gas fought superior versions of mui and ue Goku, sure.

Yea, forgot that Gas had evolved.

his eye that doesn’t work, and on top of that his clone with half his power got full on PERCEPTION BLITZED by mui Goku. His brain literally could not process Goku’s movements before getting hit like bruh, there’s no way you genuinely believe a 2x amp saves him.

It's never stated how much power he gave to his clone, but it should still be substantial.

Granolah’s eye has no scaling to mui goku from the Granolah arc at all until maybe if you are arguing him charging up an attack, in which disadvantages him in a fight where he needs to be on Moros ass the entire time before moro gets stronger and overpowers him or he’ll fuse with the planet and auto win.

Or Moro literally just mutates his body, which would likely only leave Moro's body and weak points vulnerable for Granolah to exploit and land critical blows which would knock Moro out as they did with UI Goku.

Yeah and Moro in his “sadistic nature” still absorbs people in his fights, and even attempted it on ui omen Goku when it looked like he was anywhere close to his level of power.

Which Granolah can dodge using Instant Transmission

And the last part of your comment is a blatant lie. Moro NEVER suppressed himself in character for a fight, he’s not Goku and I would like you to show me any instance where he lowers his power. The only instance coming close to this was him not killing piccolo, and what he did instead was literally blast him to the point he couldn’t get up so he could absorb him and weren’t you arguing Granolah was relative or stronger than Moro? So why would moro suppress himself against someone “stronger” or “relative”.

He held back initially when fighting UI Sign Goku.

Why would Granolah draw out the fight? For what purpose? He doesn’t know moro is gonna go insane, all he knows is he’s fighting a dude getting exponentially stronger similar to ultra ego Vegeta.

Moro does not get exponentially stronger while he fights. Where did you get that? It's only if he absorbs energy.

In fact let’s take a look at how Granolah fights. Pressure point strikes via ki or hand to hand combat. Cool Moro dodges all of that in his ui state, by some miracle if he’s hit by one he gets stronger and stronger.

What are you talking about? How would Moro get stronger if he's hit? He doesn't have Ultra Ego, and none of his copied powers would allow him to increase in strength if he's hit.

Now Moros amped and flying at Granolah with speeds relative to mui and if he doesn’t outright blitz he damn sure would outspeed him. Granolah uses clones in an attempt to overwhelm, to which Moro responds by starting to absorb them and the planet.

If he sees that Moro can absorb energy, he'd be smart enough not to use clones.

IF HE SENSES THE KI OF SOMEONE HE KNOWS. If you want to assert that there’s someone outside of the galaxy he knows the ki of that he can teleport, you can try to prove that, good luck it’s not possible.

Yea, and he could easily sense the ki of the Heeters and teleport to them if he needs to, and you don't have to know the person you're sensing to use Instant Transmission. I don't know where you got that from.

And you're also forgetting something else that's very vital: Granolah has RE and accelerated development, while Moro does not. When fighting an opponent who's just as strong or stronger than him, he rapidly improves his abilities, the sharpness and precision of his techniques, as well as his other abilities. So while Moro would eventually decrease in accuracy and lose control of his body, Granolah would only hone his technique, and if pushed enough, would gain his left eye, only increasing the accuracy of ki attacks. He'd wait until Moro's accuracy drops while using Instant Transmission to avoid having his energy absorbed the way UI Sign Goku did, then once his body becomes unstable, he'd land a powerful blow to Moro's vitals, momentarily knocking him unconscious like UI Goku, before he finishes the job. Granolah wins 7/10.

 

[Nierre]

Granola Bar FRA

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

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[Sir_Marvulous]

Quaker Oats FRA

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Quaker Oats FRA

I assume you voted Granolah right?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

yes

 

[Vizer04]

Goat FRA

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Bump

 

[Entity]

I vote for Granolah

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Counted all votes

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

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[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Moro FRA.

Moro in his old 4-B form was able to absorb a 3-A without much trouble, in a relatively short time.
So I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Besides, trickery is on Moro's character.

He could just trick Granolah with an ilusion (which are literally like non corporeal shadow clones).

Also, he could trap Granolah in his own memories to see his weak points and inmobilaze him for while, while his life force drain is active.
And then grab his neck.


He could also surround himself in Planet's energy to prevent Granolah's hits.
So unless Granolah wanted to lose a hand or burn his face, he wouldn't try to approach Moro directly.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Counted vote

 

[BOEGVELD]

Moro FRA. Always starts with Absorption, and can always either copy Granolah's abilities or fuse with the planet if he's cornered.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Moro FRA.

Moro in his old 4-B form was able to absorb a 3-A without much trouble, in a relatively short time.
So I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Besides, trickery is on Moro's character.

He could just trick Granolah with an ilusion (which are literally like non corporeal shadow clones).

Granolah has two advanced eyes that allow him to read his opponent’s movements, so I don’t imagine that illusions would work on him. Besides, he didn’t use illusions at all when he absorbed 7-3 or Merus.

Also, he could trap Granolah in his own memories to see his weak points and inmobilaze him for while, while his life force drain is active.
And then grab his neck.

Again, he doesn’t do that in-character when he absorbed Merus, and he only did that once to see how the Supreme Kai lost his godly power. Besides, his body won’t be able to handle Granolah’s power combined with Merus’ power.

He could also surround himself in Planet's energy to prevent Granolah's hits.

What’re you talking about? Granolah can also manipulate the planet’s energy.

So unless Granolah wanted to lose a hand or burn his face, he wouldn't try to approach Moro directly.

He’d just snipe Moro from afar with his advanced eyesight or just finish Moro off once his body grows unstable from the power of Ultra Instinct.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Granolah has two advanced eyes that allow him to read his opponent’s movements, so I don’t imagine that illusions would work on him. Besides, he didn’t use illusions at all when he absorbed 7-3 or Merus.

Zeto feats, no resistance then.

Again, he doesn’t do that in-character when he absorbed Merus, and he only did that once to see how the Supreme Kai lost his godly power. Besides, his body won’t be able to handle Granolah’s power combined with Merus’ power

Doesn't matter, ilusions would do the trick

What’re you talking about? Granolah can also manipulate the planet’s energy.

Yes, and? Doesn't mean Moro can hold himself with his own energy?

He’d just snipe Moro from afar with his advanced eyesight or just finish Moro off once his body grows unstable from the power of Ultra Instinct.

As if Moro would let him do that. Btw, MUI would make Moro avoid any attempt of Granolah's to attack.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Zeto feats, no resistance then.
Doesn't matter, ilusions would do the trick

When has he ever used illusions in-battle? The only times he’s used something like illusions was with the afterimage technique. Besides, Moro is too arrogant in this key to use less direct abilities like illusions or his magic. He’d prefer to crush his opponents and weaken them first before draining their energy. Besides, Granolah would just incapacitate Moro with his pressure points attack, which is one of his first moves. He might wait a bit for Moro’s accuracy with Uktra Instinct to decrease, but it would still be enough to take him down with a single blow like it did against a stronger MUI Goku.

Yes, and? Doesn't mean Moro can hold himself with his own energy?
As if Moro would let him do that. Btw, MUI would make Moro avoid any attempt of Granolah's to attack.

MUI isn’t perfect. It can be overcome with someone who has greater speed than the body can react to. Besides, Goku’s MUI didn’t save him from being hit by Granolah’s pressure point attack. A weaker Moro would be critically injured by that attack, and Granolah would finish him off before he had the chance to fuse with the planet.