While this isn't wrong, it's an unlikely scenario. Way more probable is just her wrapping the chains around its mouth while it's closed (why would they just throw it at an open croc mouth anyways) and that pretty much sets the entire match since Crocodiles can't open their mouths with anywhere near the force that they can bite down wi-
skulls and chains doubt he could touch the skulls with dead master joining it
What? I don't get it
overwhelming via numbers
She can duplicate her skulls?
No i meant as in she can attack with the skulls and chains
I don't know. I mean, does she typically use those chains for restraint? Because superior LS will break those. Plus lack of LoS in a watery room does mean that the croc will likely get the first hit
No she uses them to attack as well, also Aren't they literally 10 meters apart so is the croc in the water alongside dead master or what
It's enough distance for them to not be right next to each other
Yeah but you need to clarify if the croc in da wata or not
The whole room is filled with water
is there any place that's not full of water? and how deep does it go
Yup, there are a few crates scattered around for one to stand on
Waist deep
then that shouldn't be an issue as both of them are aware of each other's presence by SBA unless he goes straight to hiding which won't matter depending on his size
I guess so
Not ragdolled, overwhelmed. Higher LS, remember?
it's not like she uses the chains to mainly restrict people anyways and having to deal with like 4-5+ attacks is gonna get him overwhelmed unless he's like skilled or something which i very much doubt
These monsters usually fight against entire parties of adventurers (which usually consist of 4, but can be higher).
you need to give me the details how could he hold his own against 4 different opponents at once
Something incredibly important I want to highlight. They don't have line of sight. And they are within enough range that the croc's enhanced senses can let it detect her. Crocodilians by nature are ambush predators, and this one even has stealth mastery. A single bite is all it takes for the croc to end it with that insane LS, and with stealth? I see the croc grabbing her way often than not. And having established that the croc can, in fact, withstand a big numbers assault... Yeah, I vote the croc.
The CR system measures how dangerous an enemy is to a group of at least 4 adventurers of equal level. That means, the croc can deal with at least 4 adventurers of comparable AP at once. These can include wizards capable of flight, range spam and a variety of spell effects; fighters with insane stamina; divine magice users, including druids capable of commanding large vines (similar to her usage of chains); etc etc etc
that doesn't tell me anything it could be either because of the speed or the AP of the enemy
They are all of comparable stats. We measure the stats based on the CR in the first place.
that still doesn't tell us how he somehow can challenge 4 people comparable to him in power and it's not gonna matter anyways since the opponents will not just be 4 people
It means that the croc can threaten opponents with more options and resources than her. She doesn't have a skill advantage in anyway, and even her chains aren't something the monster can't possibly deal with.
I gave the scenario.
