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A certain magical index, the Tier of Aleister Crowley should be High 2A

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Just a head's up for anyone who plans to read a certain magical index but doesn't want spoilers. The spoilers given are likely only for one novel namely a certain magical index new testament 13, however I noticed that Aleister was able to create some sort of spell to both weaken and destroy a magic god namely High Priest

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/High_Priest

Despite being ranked at a lower tier.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley


Therefore I believe that Aleister Crowley should be ranked at least TIer 2A, if not high 2A just like high priest for being able to cast a spell that would weaken them to the point where he could kill him with another spell.

The evidence is provided here:

https://******************/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume13

It truly happened in only an instant.

"Ho."

As the High Priest laughed amid the pressure of the intense wind, he saw a point on the surface flash.

By then, it was already over.

He had become a giant star of doom, but a long drill of tungsten steel pierced through the center of his body.

He was not even allowed to scream, cry out, or cough up blood.

Naturally, this was not contained to mere physical phenomena.

There was a systematic trembling that could be called an extremely high-speed high-frequency vibration. There was a slight unevenness in the drill's rotation, that pattern conveyed the power of someone's will, and it took the form of something that destroyed the High Priest's body from within. He had become one with the comet, but that strange something caused his flesh and bones to tremble and crumble.

Just as a second could be divided by a thousand or ten thousand, that instant seemed to last an eternity.

There was no time for a voice to propagate as a wave, but the golden retriever's will still reached the mummy.

"This is a message from the ghost named Aleister."

The weapon, the special steel drill, tore through the High Priest's giant form and its rotation produced and extremely high-speed and systematic fluctuation. Not only did it bring about the High Priest's death, but it created waveforms which were converted into words to convey someone's will directly to the High Priest's body rather than through the vibrations of his eardrums.

"Do you remember the life that was taken by destiny as if to smash the childish gears of a desire to make the world a better place and to save every last member of the human race? Do you remember my daughter's name?"

The mummy High Priest received that will and his body was still pierced down the center.

The heated surface of the comet split apart…in the shape of a slight smile.

Oddly, what he remembered was not the daughter's name, but the "ghost" who had created that situation.

That ghost had been a coldhearted pragmatist and yet went on the passionate rampages of a madman. Even as he cursed the imperfections of mankind, he had married a woman. Even as he rejected human emotion as impure, he had kept a journal. Even as an expert who had mastered magic, he had shown interest in the path of science. And even as he had determined he would need to fill so many boys and girls with chemicals, he had left a transparent tearstain in his journal on the day his own daughter had died. That "human" was the king of man who had rejected becoming a god of magic. He had seen meaning in that and had chosen to remain in the same realm as his family without giving up on anything.

The Magic God tried to speak a single word.

If the speed of sound had been just a little faster, he would have said that word: sorry.

A moment later, there was a flash of light.

Kihara Noukan refused to let the comet fall to the earth.

Acting in his role as messenger, the golden retriever had finished conveying the willpower of the "human" named Aleister.

While Nephthys thought, Niang-Niang did not seek an answer to every little thing.

"To hell with this, to hell with this, to hell with this!! I'm pissed now, completely pissed!! Basically, there's something in Academy City that can kill us, right? Then if we destroy that, everything will be back on track. That makes it easy, don't you think?"

"Niang-Niang?"
 
well, Kihara Nouken Killed a infinitely weaker High Priest, so by that reasoning it's wrong to assume hes 2-A.

iirc Aleister intercepted Zombies spell by some unknown means, and weaker them even further after the infinity spell

However.. I do think he should be 2-A. He fought multiple Magic Gods in the hidden realm and lived, he also then destroyed it afterwards. the same realm Othinus could not destroy, even with her level of powers.
 
i agree

crowley fought a entire organization of magic gods which mean he fought a entire organization of High 2-A the organization were at least 8 magic godshe fought them hit them with a weakening spell and kicked there ass out of there own world and make it alive after that and we don't need mention that he was stated to be stronger than othinus and the latter have a higher tier than him since aleister is low 2-C
 
Well, DontTalk is the To Aru expert, so it depends on what he thinks.
 
Anything that happened to the magic gods after enetering the real world doesn't scale to their full power. Even the weakening spell aleister put on them was not because he was more powerful then them, but because he used a trick. Aleister doesn't scale to them, because of any of that.


And about the fight against High Priest. We went over that multiple times already. Aleister almost died in that battle and the Magic gods didn't take any damage at all. One can not powerscale from that. Sure the hidden world was destroyed, but that is all he is to be ranked for. Destroying the world beings life in, that can survive the destruction of said world, doesn't put one at their level.

Othinus is Low 2-C and so is Aleister, so I don't see a problem there.
 
I agree with DontTalk. Aleister clearly lost the fight with the High Priest. He nerfed True Gremlin by taking over one of their own spells (Zombie casted that one, not Aleister) that was already limiting their power by infinitely dividing their existence so that the world wouldn't go poof from them entering it. Not a lot of details are known about what Aleister exactly did to them with the modified spell, but it took away almost all of their power, so much that they no longer could manipulate Phases (except for Nephthys, a special case, ane even then she just had a single phase shift before running out of power). He won by outsmarting them, no by outpowering them, in true Index fashion.

Noukan's Anti-Art Attachment could just have some sort of durability/immortality negation thing that works through Aleister's power, we might see more of it later, maybe through Yuiitsu.
 
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