9-Nine Acausality + Others

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I believe Niimi Kakeru, Fukazawa Yoichi, and Iris should have type 3 acausality. The description of type 3 acausality:

Characters with this type of Acausality are incredibly difficult to kill, as other versions of themselves - from other points in time and/or from other universes - can survive the destruction of the "original" and act in their place. This also grants them immunity to changes in the past.

Kakeru gets memories of himself from different universes, which are further in time

Every time he dies, time is rewound and he remembers what killed him, essentially

It is then revealed that the Kakeru we were following throughout the previous episodes is connected to another Kakeru who is an identical existence, with the same soul

This Kakeru is capable of observing parallel worlds

Can time travel

This identical Kakeru is the one who was preventing Kakeru's death, guiding fate to a better conclusion

Note this 3rd branch that's being talked about is where the scan about Kakeru getting memories from different parallel worlds is from, in other words, it's the other Kakeru with identical soul that's giving him memories of other branches and manipulating fate to deny Kakeru's death.

This is directly confirmed that the identical Kakeru is imparting memories and emotions on the other Kakeru's

This same thing is happening for Yoichi and Iris. The future Iris is inputting her memories into the present Iris and Yoichi. Future Iris is rewinding time for them, and letting them keep memories from before the time rewind

Iris also has the same powers as the other Kakeru. Putting this all together you get this:

• Future Iris and Kakeru from a parallel world can observe parallel worlds, and intervene using the versions of themselves in those worlds
• Future Iris and Kakeru are identical existences to the versions of themselves in other parallel worlds
• They install their memories and emotions in those versions of themselves
• They can rewind time and give those versions of themselves the memories they had before time was rewound
• They can give those versions of themselves, memories from other timelines which are further in time
• Even if you could somehow kill the versions of Kakeru and Iris in parallel worlds which is gonna be hard due to different world Kakeru and Future Iris manipulating fate to prevent their failure, Iris and Kakeru could always time travel to the past and install memories of what cause the deaths of those Kakeru and Iris in the future, in order to prevent it, or they could go to a different parallel world and install memories of what happened in the other parallel world.

 

[Planck69]

Type 3 Acausality seems fine to me, based on the above scans.

 

[AKUTO123]

I agree

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Since this thread is here, Kakeru and Haruka should have probability manipulation and Yoichi should have resistance to it.

Haruka's ability can make any stroke of misfortune, coincidence or miracle happen. Initially just wrote this off as something the characters don't have cause it's Haruka's power + Kakeru's but relooking at it, clearly the normal ability is probability manipulation but Haruka is just boosting it, it had to be boosted to affect Yoichi hence resistance.

Haruka's power is so versatile, i thought it was just fate hax but no, actually shouldn't Haruka and Kakeru have subjective reality too? They can turn their delusions into reality

Only sort of issue here, is the overlap, Haruka's ability brings whatever fantasies she has into reality, but it's whatever fantasies about the future she has, so is it just fate hax, or both fate hax and subjective reality?

Either way her abilities don't work on Iris nor Yoichi

 

[Planck69]

It's both, I'd think. Resistances are straightforward as well. And shouldn't she also have Mind Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation based on what she says about charming, controlling others and being able to make them feel emotions like hate?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Both Haruka and Kakeru already have mind manipulation and empathic manipulation.

 

[Planck69]

Ah, I see. Well, Fate Manipulation and Subjective Reality, as well as the subsequent resistances should work.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

What about Probability Manipulation?

 

[Planck69]

That's also fine.

Anyways, I'm going to sleep soon so if I don't respond, that's probably why.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Night.

Will wait to see if anyone else shows up with input,

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

This is a tad bit to go over lol.

But these look straightforward. And I think both for fate hax and subjective reality can work based on how it's described.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This is all looking good.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

We don't have sin manipulation as a power, that's what Yuuki Noa's ability is, what should we list it as?

 

[Bernkastelll]

I agree

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Bump.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Looked around and the closest thing to Sin Manipulation we have is Unholy Manipulation, but doesn't seem right either.

The other stuff has been accepted, not going to hold up the revision just for that. If no one else shows up in a day, i will apply what's accepted here.