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Scans would be nice.
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Evidence?
Let's see your claim Soul King prevents Merger > 0 evidence
My claim, Soul King prevents destruction > given so much evidence and even the chapters number
Again, you are simply assuming Soul King prevents a merger of the worlds with 0 evidence. That was never stated, and the first arc of Bleach had nothing to do with the Soul King, it wasn't until Byakuya and Renji appeared that we started learning of Soul Society, which was the second arc of the series.
You are simply trying to downplay Bleach now, please show evidence that Soul King was preventing a merger,
Let's see your claim Soul King prevents Merger > 0 evidence
My claim, Soul King prevents destruction > given so much evidence and even the chapters number
Again, you are simply assuming Soul King prevents a merger of the worlds with 0 evidence. That was never stated, and the first arc of Bleach had nothing to do with the Soul King, it wasn't until Byakuya and Renji appeared that we started learning of Soul Society, which was the second arc of the series.
You are simply trying to downplay Bleach now, please show evidence that Soul King was preventing a merger,
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No you are wanking, you have posted no evidence, just quoted the wiki and posted one scan that was debunked, meanwhile my scans you just go "lalalalala" around, ignoring. Same with statements of the basic cosmology. Stuff so basic it is the equivalent of asking "Where does it state that there are 5 Shinobi Nations?"
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BMWFanboy wrote
He wasn't made Soul King, he always was Soul King.
You, literally 13 minutes ago:
"The Soul King was created by Soul Society"
He wasn't made Soul King, he always was Soul King.
You, literally 13 minutes ago:
"The Soul King was created by Soul Society"
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Destruction = Merging in Bleach. The worlds are destroyed by being merged, turned into one without the Cycle of Life and Death.
The assumption that they would literally be destroyed is incorrect, specially since the Soul King was created by Soul Society.
Ywach never intended Destruction, he intended the cessation of the cycle of life and death. Implying that he would destroy his worlds goes against the very plot.
The assumption that they would literally be destroyed is incorrect, specially since the Soul King was created by Soul Society.
Ywach never intended Destruction, he intended the cessation of the cycle of life and death. Implying that he would destroy his worlds goes against the very plot.
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Again, how are you guys equating destruction with a merger ?
It is repeatedly stated that without a Soul King, the worlds would be destroyed, not just lose their current form, but be destroyed
Yhwach intended for them to just lose their current forms, not destroy them but merge them.
It is repeatedly stated that without a Soul King, the worlds would be destroyed, not just lose their current form, but be destroyed
Yhwach intended for them to just lose their current forms, not destroy them but merge them.
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Because Yhwach literally stated that he would merge the worlds ending life and death? Because the worlds will collapse into each other, merging to their former state, if there is no Soul King? Because everything about the manga you willfully ignore disagrees with your assumption?
Also if you agree that worlds are merged to end life and death not destroyed, it isn't a 5-B feat.
Also if you agree that worlds are merged to end life and death not destroyed, it isn't a 5-B feat.
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Is something is destroyed, then it loses its current form, right?BMWFanboy said:
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1.Yhwach merging the worlds would've made a new world where the cycle of life and death isn't there.
2.The former state of Soul Society is equated to nothingness, as proven in Chapter 616 where it is stated that the world's will be destroyed
Ignore? It seems you are trying to target me instead of addressing the scans that disagree with you. Please read through Chapter 615-616.
2.The former state of Soul Society is equated to nothingness, as proven in Chapter 616 where it is stated that the world's will be destroyed
Ignore? It seems you are trying to target me instead of addressing the scans that disagree with you. Please read through Chapter 615-616.
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Care to explain how the Soul Society could have made the Soul King to stabilize the flow of souls if nothing existed?
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1. Destroying barriers of life and death isn't a 5-B feat.
2. It isn't nothingness, as the manga disagrees with you, as people and Soul Society existed and created the Soul King.
3. You are focusing so much on semantics. The destroyed is not literal. They wouldn't be reduced to nothingness. And if that was true that would make Yhwach Low 2-C which is an outlier.
4. I have. You fail to accept it.
2. It isn't nothingness, as the manga disagrees with you, as people and Soul Society existed and created the Soul King.
3. You are focusing so much on semantics. The destroyed is not literal. They wouldn't be reduced to nothingness. And if that was true that would make Yhwach Low 2-C which is an outlier.
4. I have. You fail to accept it.
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Bad writing gg
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Here's the chapter were it is stated all three world's are going to disappear
http://ww2.readbleachmanga.com/chapter/bleach-chapter-616/
http://ww2.readbleachmanga.com/chapter/bleach-chapter-616/
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My friend, BMW, please listen to mean.
It doesn't matter that you keep posting this chapter.
The people saying that the worlds will be destroyed are Third Parties, Yhwach himself disagrees with them, stating that he would merge them does ending the Cycle of Life & Death.
The conclusion is that the people saying that the worlds will disappear / be reduced to nothingness are idiots. They are simply wrong.
It doesn't matter that you keep posting this chapter.
The people saying that the worlds will be destroyed are Third Parties, Yhwach himself disagrees with them, stating that he would merge them does ending the Cycle of Life & Death.
The conclusion is that the people saying that the worlds will disappear / be reduced to nothingness are idiots. They are simply wrong.
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1.Again, he is not just doing, he is merging the Earth, which is a planet with two other realms
2.The manga clearly agrees with me, please read Chapter 616. It is stated that the world's will disappear. What will they disappear into? Obviously they will be reduced to nothingness.
3.It is very literal. It is repeatedly backed up in Chapter 615, 421 and 616.
4.Have you? Can I see?
2.The manga clearly agrees with me, please read Chapter 616. It is stated that the world's will disappear. What will they disappear into? Obviously they will be reduced to nothingness.
3.It is very literal. It is repeatedly backed up in Chapter 615, 421 and 616.
4.Have you? Can I see?
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> 2.The manga clearly agrees with me, please read Chapter 616. It is stated that the world's will disappear. What will they disappear into? Obviously they will be reduced to nothingness.
This is the bit you have no proof for.
Returning to their former state of existence =/= nothingness.
This is the bit you have no proof for.
Returning to their former state of existence =/= nothingness.
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I already posted the scans of him disagreeing, you posted the scan of him disagreeing.
He says that he would have created a world where the cycle of life & death didn't exist through the merging of the three worlds.
So yes, Aizen and Urahara are absolutely idiots if they were implying that Yhwach was going to nuke all of existence, when he says he wasn't going to do it. They don't know more about Yhwach than Yhwach himself.
Alternatively, Kubo is an idiot, which is the most likely option.
He says that he would have created a world where the cycle of life & death didn't exist through the merging of the three worlds.
So yes, Aizen and Urahara are absolutely idiots if they were implying that Yhwach was going to nuke all of existence, when he says he wasn't going to do it. They don't know more about Yhwach than Yhwach himself.
Alternatively, Kubo is an idiot, which is the most likely option.
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Calling him an idiot it pretty uncalled for tbh.
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1. Not physically, how many times do we need to go over this wanked headcanon.
2. No it doesn't, it agrees with me, refer to the final chapter of Bleach.
3. It is not, the whole manga from the first arc agrees it isn't literal, and Yhwach agrees it isn't.
4. You are welcome to re-read my posts if you failed to comprehend them the first time.
2. No it doesn't, it agrees with me, refer to the final chapter of Bleach.
3. It is not, the whole manga from the first arc agrees it isn't literal, and Yhwach agrees it isn't.
4. You are welcome to re-read my posts if you failed to comprehend them the first time.
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I mean, what else would you call a guy who forgot his own plot and contradicted himself making the characters look like idiots?Knightofannihilation666 said:
Alternatively, everyone in this thread is going ridiculously heavy on semantics and little on context and cosmology. And just jumping on "He said the worlds would be destroyed, 5-B!!!"
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If you mean this scan, then he isn't disagreeing, he himself is stating everything will crumble.
By merging the three worlds, he would create a world without death. That's not what Aizen and Urahara, the Sternritters and Soul Society were implying, they implied that the loss of the Soul King would destroy the 3 worlds, and Yhwach said it himself.
Hm, I don't quite get your point. Can you please explain it again?
Ayy Kubo is a genius don't be hating on him.
By merging the three worlds, he would create a world without death. That's not what Aizen and Urahara, the Sternritters and Soul Society were implying, they implied that the loss of the Soul King would destroy the 3 worlds, and Yhwach said it himself.
Hm, I don't quite get your point. Can you please explain it again?
Ayy Kubo is a genius don't be hating on him.
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Well to be fair Kubo had to rush the ending of Bleach along with his health issues. I think it's disrespectful to call someone an idiot based on something like that.
Then just close it.
Then just close it.
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"If you mean this scan, then he isn't disagreeing, he himself is stating everything will crumble."
Me: Refer to the last chapter
You: Use scan not from the last chapter, again showing fixation on wording.
You must be trolling or being deliberately hard to talk to. You know Yhwach wasn't going to destroy everything since you posted the scan of him saying he wouldn't.
"By merging the three worlds, he would create a world without death."
Yes, and this is not a 5-B feat, it is a hax feat by breaking the barriers separating the words.
"That's not what Aizen and Urahara, the Sternritters and Soul Society were implying, they implied that the loss of the Soul King would destroy the 3 worlds"
They are all wrong. Or you are wrong focusing on the wording. The destruction isn't literal.
Me: Refer to the last chapter
You: Use scan not from the last chapter, again showing fixation on wording.
You must be trolling or being deliberately hard to talk to. You know Yhwach wasn't going to destroy everything since you posted the scan of him saying he wouldn't.
"By merging the three worlds, he would create a world without death."
Yes, and this is not a 5-B feat, it is a hax feat by breaking the barriers separating the words.
"That's not what Aizen and Urahara, the Sternritters and Soul Society were implying, they implied that the loss of the Soul King would destroy the 3 worlds"
They are all wrong. Or you are wrong focusing on the wording. The destruction isn't literal.
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1. "Spiritual energy is physical". You are joking, right?
2. No, refer to the final chapter.
3.Scans? Already posted here multiple times, and referred to the chapter. Stop feigning ignorance.
2. No, refer to the final chapter.
3.Scans? Already posted here multiple times, and referred to the chapter. Stop feigning ignorance.
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Chapter 614?
Sigh. Where have I said that Yhwach was going to destroy the world's? I said that the lack of the Soul King was going to do that, not Yhwach.
The worlds would merge simply by breaking the barriers between them? Do you have proof of this?
How can it not be literal when it is repeatedly referenced time and again?
Sigh. Where have I said that Yhwach was going to destroy the world's? I said that the lack of the Soul King was going to do that, not Yhwach.
The worlds would merge simply by breaking the barriers between them? Do you have proof of this?
How can it not be literal when it is repeatedly referenced time and again?
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1.Great, now you're equating Reiryokou with Reiatsu. You sure you understand the difference between the two? Spiritual Pressure is very physical, it can crush humans and souls and hollows.
2.The final chapter states what exactly that agrees with you?
3.I am not feigning ignorance, if you cannot explain your position, fine.
2.The final chapter states what exactly that agrees with you?
3.I am not feigning ignorance, if you cannot explain your position, fine.
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"Reiatsu isn't physical "
Kek, so Getsuga Tensho is basically intangible right
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Reiatsu
Kek, so Getsuga Tensho is basically intangible right
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Reiatsu
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1. Of course it affects physical beings but it doesn't come from a physical source, and can be used for non-physical things.
2. That Yhwach didn't want to literally destroy everything but "destroy" them in the sense that the divisions between the three worlds would end and the cycle of life and death would seize to exist.
3. It looks ike it, specially since you seem to forget my posts.
2. That Yhwach didn't want to literally destroy everything but "destroy" them in the sense that the divisions between the three worlds would end and the cycle of life and death would seize to exist.
3. It looks ike it, specially since you seem to forget my posts.
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Also Kubo has stated in multiple interviews that he doesn't care for the plot and just draws what he finds cool.
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