4-D? That's small time! Sonic Revision

[LaserPrecision]

Hello everyone, today I’m going to sell you on upgrading Solaris’ Higher Dimensional Existence to Five Dimensions. I would like to make it explicitly clear from the start. This does not affect AP or durability. With that said and sighs of relief being breathed all around, here is the evidence:

• As we currently know, Solaris is treated as a 4 Dimensional being. Stated to transcend space-time, and be temporally Omnipresent. Thus their current HDE status. However, it should be noted, these statements are in reference to the form we face as Sonic, Silver, and Shadow. This is important for the following points
• Eggman states that Solaris is a Super-Dimensional life form. “Super” when used as a prefix means to be “above” or “beyond”. When used in conjunction with Dimensional, you get Above/Beyond Dimensions. We know this is in reference to Solaris’ dimensional axis thanks to the statements of him being a transcendent being that exists on the temporal axis. However, the following comment means this statement can be taken further.
• Eggman states the shells on Solaris’ body are anchoring him to the dimension he is currently in (the temporal axis). Stating that destroying it would defeat them, since they would no longer be able to interact with space-time continuum. So the implication seems to be that Solaris is from a higher dimension, and uses his shells to anchor him to the temporal axis where they can then destroy the cosmology of Sonic. However, we come to learn this is false.
• We’re told by Eggman after destroying Solaris’ shells that he was wrong, and that it would be impossible to defeat a Super Dimensional being after all. This means the form we see of Solaris isn’t being anchored down to a lower one, but rather cam exist in the fourth dimension for unknown reasons. Luckily, after Solaris’ defeat, we’re shown that what we were fighting wasn’t Solaris’ true form. We get a glimpse of Solaris’ true form within a black space where we see Solaris’ true form to be a spark (which takes Elise to his flame which she blows out to prevent him from ever existing to begin with).
• This explains the lapse in Eggman’s claim. Solaris wasn’t a Super-Dimensional being anchoring themselves from the fifth dimension to the fourth one. They were a Super-Dimensional being who created an avatar within the fourth dimension to turn all to nothingness. Thus destroying the shells would not elevate Solaris back to their dimension of origin. Which explains why destroying his avatar prevented them from continuing to destroy the cosmology. In short, Solaris is a Super-Dimensional life form that exists on a 5 Dimensional axis, and merely projects an avatar across the temporal axis to interact with all space-times. As his true form exists beyond every other dimensional axis, he is incapable of interacting with them and its contents naturally. Thus why Eggman believed destroying its anchors would have been the optimal way to win.

Propositions:

• Solaris should have Avatar Creation listed on his page for creating a transcendent body that can exist across all of time.
• Solaris’ true form should have Higher Dimensional Existence (5-D)
• Solaris’ avatar should still have Higher Dimensional Existence (4-D) on account of being transcendent beyond the spatial axis and existing across all of time
• Super Forms should have Avatar Creation Negation for preventing Solaris from creating a new avatar to finish collapsing all timelines.
• Chaos Energy related abilities should all have 5D potency for being able to affect a 5 Dimensional being with their most basic applications (At the last bit of Solaris' health during Phase 2, you can freely choose who to finish him off with. Physical attacks from Sonic, Chaos Spears from Shadow, and redirected attacks from Silver's Shield of Light can all prevent Solaris’ true form from creating another avatar, leaving it in a defenseless state). Chaos related hax are all reliant on the same energy, with different more complex applications simply requiring different amounts of Chaos Energy than others. This is ONLY applicable to Chaos Energy, and has no bearing over any other energy system or hax in-universe. So no 5D hax for Base cast (Aside from Shadow who can use Chaos Energy naturally). This doesn’t affect the AP of Chaos Energy, merely the potency of the hax.
• Super Forms should have Low Complex Multiverse range for being able to interact with Solaris’ true form (Which exists on the 5th axis). If this doesn't qualify for said range, perhaps some advanced form of Interdimensional range would suffice.

Agree: 9 (@TyranoDoom30, @Alexander, @Brogeefrong, @JED, @Remus1998, @Eseseso, @Hiryu-Z, @ZespeonGalaxy, @Gilad_Hyperstar)

Neutral: 2 (@The_Fastest_Savior, @Theuser789)

Disagree:

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Seems fine

 

[Alexander]

ok,why not

 

[Brogeefrong]

so does this change anything for archie aswell? Either way I agree

 

[TyranoDoom30]

so does this change anything for archie aswell? Either way I agree

Considering that Archie Solaris is basically the same thing plot wise, probably

 

[One-Mastor]

let him cook

 

[LaserPrecision]

so does this change anything for archie aswell? Either way I agree

Not sure. I'm not the biggest Archie fan. That'd prolly be for another CRT from the Archie fans on the site. Counted btw

 

[AStrangeverse]

damn, for being considered a jobber, Solaris really be pullin' in the dough for yall

 

[JED]

Agree

 

[LaserPrecision]

damn, for being considered a jobber, Solaris really be pullin' in the dough for yall

He does pull in the dough, but he def ain't jobber. Solaris supremacy!

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Hello everyone, today I’m going to sell you on upgrading Solaris’ Higher Dimensional Existence to Five Dimensions. I would like to make it explicitly clear from the start. This does not affect AP or durability. With that said and sighs of relief being breathed all around, here is the evidence:

• As we currently know, Solaris is treated as a 4 Dimensional being. Stated to transcend space-time, and be temporally Omnipresent. Thus their current HDE status. However, it should be noted, these statements are in reference to the form we face as Sonic, Silver, and Shadow. This is important for the following points
• Eggman states that Solaris is a Super-Dimensional life form. “Super” when used as a prefix means to be “above” or “beyond”. When used in conjunction with Dimensional, you get Above/Beyond Dimensions. We know this is in reference to Solaris’ dimensional axis thanks to the statements of him being a transcendent being that exists on the temporal axis. However, the following comment means this statement can be taken further.
• Eggman states the shells on Solaris’ body are anchoring him to the dimension he is currently in (the temporal axis). Stating that destroying it would defeat them, since they would no longer be able to interact with space-time continuum. So the implication seems to be that Solaris is from a higher dimension, and uses his shells to anchor him to the temporal axis where they can then destroy the cosmology of Sonic. However, we come to learn this is false.
• We’re told by Eggman after destroying Solaris’ shells that he was wrong, and that it would be impossible to defeat a Super Dimensional being after all. This means the form we see of Solaris isn’t being anchored down to a lower one, but rather cam exist in the fourth dimension for unknown reasons. Luckily, after Solaris’ defeat, we’re shown that what we were fighting wasn’t Solaris’ true form. We get a glimpse of Solaris’ true form within a black space where we see Solaris’ true form to be a spark (which takes Elise to his flame which she blows out to prevent him from ever existing to begin with).
• This explains the lapse in Eggman’s claim. Solaris wasn’t a Super-Dimensional being anchoring themselves from the fifth dimension to the fourth one. They were a Super-Dimensional being who created an avatar within the fourth dimension to turn all to nothingness. Thus destroying the shells would not elevate Solaris back to their dimension of origin. Which explains why destroying his avatar prevented them from continuing to destroy the cosmology. In short, Solaris is a Super-Dimensional life form that exists on a 5 Dimensional axis, and merely projects an avatar across the temporal axis to interact with all space-times. As his true form exists beyond every other dimensional axis, he is incapable of interacting with them and its contents naturally. Thus why Eggman believed destroying its anchors would have been the optimal way to win.

Propositions:

• Solaris should have Avatar Creation listed on his page for creating a transcendent body that can exist across all of time.
• Solaris’ true form should have Higher Dimensional Existence (5-D)
• Solaris’ avatar should still have Higher Dimensional Existence (4-D) on account of being transcendent beyond the spatial axis and existing across all of time
• Super Forms should have Avatar Creation Negation for preventing Solaris from creating a new avatar to finish collapsing all timelines.
• Chaos Energy related abilities should all have 5D potency for being able to affect a 5 Dimensional being with their most basic applications (At the last bit of Solaris' health during Phase 2, you can freely choose who to finish him off with. Physical attacks from Sonic, Chaos Spears from Shadow, and redirected attacks from Silver's Shield of Light can all prevent Solaris’ true form from creating another avatar, leaving it in a defenseless state). Chaos related hax are all reliant on the same energy, with different more complex applications simply requiring different amounts of Chaos Energy than others. This is ONLY applicable to Chaos Energy, and has no bearing over any other energy system or hax in-universe. So no 5D hax for Base cast (Aside from Shadow who can use Chaos Energy naturally). This doesn’t affect the AP of Chaos Energy, merely the potency of the hax.
• Super Forms should have Low Complex Multiverse range for being able to interact with Solaris’ true form (Which exists on the 5th axis). If this doesn't qualify for said range, perhaps some advanced form of Interdimensional range would suffice.

Agree: 4 (@TyranoDoom30, @Alexander, @Brogeefrong, @JED)

Neutral:

Disagree:

Hello everyone, today I’m going to sell you on upgrading Solaris’ Higher Dimensional Existence to Five Dimensions. I would like to make it explicitly clear from the start. This does not affect AP or durability. With that said and sighs of relief being breathed all around, here is the evidence:

• As we currently know, Solaris is treated as a 4 Dimensional being. Stated to transcend space-time, and be temporally Omnipresent. Thus their current HDE status. However, it should be noted, these statements are in reference to the form we face as Sonic, Silver, and Shadow. This is important for the following points
• Eggman states that Solaris is a Super-Dimensional life form. “Super” when used as a prefix means to be “above” or “beyond”. When used in conjunction with Dimensional, you get Above/Beyond Dimensions. We know this is in reference to Solaris’ dimensional axis thanks to the statements of him being a transcendent being that exists on the temporal axis. However, the following comment means this statement can be taken further.
• Eggman states the shells on Solaris’ body are anchoring him to the dimension he is currently in (the temporal axis). Stating that destroying it would defeat them, since they would no longer be able to interact with space-time continuum. So the implication seems to be that Solaris is from a higher dimension, and uses his shells to anchor him to the temporal axis where they can then destroy the cosmology of Sonic. However, we come to learn this is false.
• We’re told by Eggman after destroying Solaris’ shells that he was wrong, and that it would be impossible to defeat a Super Dimensional being after all. This means the form we see of Solaris isn’t being anchored down to a lower one, but rather cam exist in the fourth dimension for unknown reasons. Luckily, after Solaris’ defeat, we’re shown that what we were fighting wasn’t Solaris’ true form. We get a glimpse of Solaris’ true form within a black space where we see Solaris’ true form to be a spark (which takes Elise to his flame which she blows out to prevent him from ever existing to begin with).
• This explains the lapse in Eggman’s claim. Solaris wasn’t a Super-Dimensional being anchoring themselves from the fifth dimension to the fourth one. They were a Super-Dimensional being who created an avatar within the fourth dimension to turn all to nothingness. Thus destroying the shells would not elevate Solaris back to their dimension of origin. Which explains why destroying his avatar prevented them from continuing to destroy the cosmology. In short, Solaris is a Super-Dimensional life form that exists on a 5 Dimensional axis, and merely projects an avatar across the temporal axis to interact with all space-times. As his true form exists beyond every other dimensional axis, he is incapable of interacting with them and its contents naturally. Thus why Eggman believed destroying its anchors would have been the optimal way to win.

Propositions:

• Solaris should have Avatar Creation listed on his page for creating a transcendent body that can exist across all of time.
• Solaris’ true form should have Higher Dimensional Existence (5-D)
• Solaris’ avatar should still have Higher Dimensional Existence (4-D) on account of being transcendent beyond the spatial axis and existing across all of time
• Super Forms should have Avatar Creation Negation for preventing Solaris from creating a new avatar to finish collapsing all timelines.
• Chaos Energy related abilities should all have 5D potency for being able to affect a 5 Dimensional being with their most basic applications (At the last bit of Solaris' health during Phase 2, you can freely choose who to finish him off with. Physical attacks from Sonic, Chaos Spears from Shadow, and redirected attacks from Silver's Shield of Light can all prevent Solaris’ true form from creating another avatar, leaving it in a defenseless state). Chaos related hax are all reliant on the same energy, with different more complex applications simply requiring different amounts of Chaos Energy than others. This is ONLY applicable to Chaos Energy, and has no bearing over any other energy system or hax in-universe. So no 5D hax for Base cast (Aside from Shadow who can use Chaos Energy naturally). This doesn’t affect the AP of Chaos Energy, merely the potency of the hax.
• Super Forms should have Low Complex Multiverse range for being able to interact with Solaris’ true form (Which exists on the 5th axis). If this doesn't qualify for said range, perhaps some advanced form of Interdimensional range would suffice.

Agree: 4 (@TyranoDoom30, @Alexander, @Brogeefrong, @JED)

Neutral:

Disagree:

Neutral for now
Specifically the propositions that you proposed based off what you showed in scans.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Considering that Archie Solaris is basically the same thing plot wise, probably

Does that mean we could get 7d deadline

 

[LaserPrecision]

Neutral for now
Specifically the propositions that you proposed based off what you showed in scans.

Counted. That sounds like a long way to just say neutral.

That said, why neutral? Aren't the statements about Solaris existing above dimensions pretty explicit?

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Counted. That sounds like a long way to just say neutral.

That said, why neutral? Aren't the statements about Solaris existing above dimensions pretty explicit?

Oh no, I have Solaris way above dimensions. I just don't really agree with the prepositions you made based on the scans.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Looks good. I agree

 

[LaserPrecision]

Oh no, I have Solaris way above dimensions. I just don't really agree with the prepositions you made based on the scans.

I get what you're saying. I'm saying why don't you agree with the propositions based on the scans? It leaves little to the imagination.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

I get what you're saying. I'm saying why don't you agree with the propositions based on the scans? It leaves little to the imagination.

I really don't think Solaris has a proper "True Form", like the way you described it

Yes, his form at the end of the game IS technically his "True Form" but in the context of the game it isn't like some Higher Dimensional Form from his battle form.
Mephiles'/Solaris' main motivation is pure rage against all of existence because they were treated horribly in the experiments that used them for selfish needs. This is why upon reforming into Solaris, he immediately erased nearly everything in the Universe (and likely shattered other timelines as implied by the Prima guide). Solaris was angry and wanted to destroy everything, that much is obvious.

Which is why the "True Solaris" described by Sonic is the peaceful flame shown at the end, Solaris wasn't always the Flames Of Disaster, he's worshipped for a reason. He was also the Flame Of Hope.

Need an official scan? It's heavily implied in the game already but the Prima guide directly mentions such things
"The God, crazed by the lasting effects of the experiments that Elise's father performed on it when she was a child, returns to its original, peaceful form."
--> pg 323
The Solaris fight is an example of the Super Form's ability to neutralize enemies filled with negative feelings/energies.
Sonic didn't kill Solaris, he reverted Solaris back to his calmed state where he isn't angry anymore. And thus Elise was able to blow out Solaris before any of the destruction ever happened.

If the True Form Solaris you are alluding to is true, than how is Elise capable of erasing it for good by blowing it out? That would mean Base Sonic and Elise are existing in a 5th Dimensional existence alongside True Form Solaris. Which doesn't make sense, Sonic can't outgrow his super form that fast.
Keep in mind, the flame is Solaris' True Form. This form was harnessed by Elise's Father for advanced time manipulation, so it isn't powerless either.

 

[Remus1998]

This will have serious implications for the Archieverse as well, agree for now until someone brings counters

 

[HenshinIntervention]

This will have serious implications for the Archieverse as well, agree for now until someone brings counters

Speak of the devil

 

[Eseseso]

If the Supers never fight Solaris's true 5D form, how would they have affected his true form?

IMO they shouldn't have 5D potency if they never actually affected his true form and only affected his 4D avatar.

Rest is fine.

This will have serious implications for the Archieverse as well,

How so?

 

[LaserPrecision]

I really don't think Solaris has a proper "True Form", like the way you described it

I did mean to use "true form" loosely. Just for a lack of better words due to Sonic's statement about it being the "true Solaris". Just figured that was the best way to summarize it.

Yes, his form at the end of the game IS technically his "True Form" but in the context of the game it isn't like some Higher Dimensional Form from his battle form.
Mephiles'/Solaris' main motivation is pure rage against all of existence because they were treated horribly in the experiments that used them for selfish needs. This is why upon reforming into Solaris, he immediately erased nearly everything in the Universe (and likely shattered other timelines as implied by the Prima guide). Solaris was angry and wanted to destroy everything, that much is obvious.

The two seem pretty distinct tbh. One exists across all of time in a space looking "nexus". The sparks of Solaris is within a black void that appears to Sonic and Elise (Not sure why ONLY them. From a story point I get it, but not really explained why only they were selected) after his defeat and the "Nexus" glowing and engulfing everyone. I wasn't arguing the two had different motives or anything. Just that the "True Solaris" was using an avatar to extract revenge and destroy all of existence.

Which is why the "True Solaris" described by Sonic is the peaceful flame shown at the end, Solaris wasn't always the Flames Of Disaster, he's worshipped for a reason. He was also the Flame Of Hope.

The "True Solaris" wasn't the flame tbf. It was a spark. The spark took them to the flame. I feel it's important to mention Sonic said that after Elise asked if he defeated them, to which he replied no.

Need an official scan? It's heavily implied in the game already but the Prima guide directly mentions such things
"The God, crazed by the lasting effects of the experiments that Elise's father performed on it when she was a child, returns to its original, peaceful form."
--> pg 323
The Solaris fight is an example of the Super Form's ability to neutralize enemies filled with negative feelings/energies.
Sonic didn't kill Solaris, he reverted Solaris back to his calmed state where he isn't angry anymore. And thus Elise was able to blow out Solaris before any of the destruction ever happened.

Not sure why you'd disagree for any of these reasons. Nor did I intend to imply Solaris was "killed" when they defeated his physical form/shell. They simply left it in a passive state.

If the True Form Solaris you are alluding to is true, than how is Elise capable of erasing it for good by blowing it out? That would mean Base Sonic and Elise are existing in a 5th Dimensional existence alongside True Form Solaris. Which doesn't make sense, Sonic can't outgrow his super form that fast.
Keep in mind, the flame is Solaris' True Form. This form was harnessed by Elise's Father for advanced time manipulation, so it isn't powerless either.

Simple. They were brought to the dimension by Solaris' implosion (Well, looked more like an explosion than the former. As for why them specifically and no one else? Not sure. Never really explained). This has nothing to do with power. He wouldn't need to grow above Super form to be brought to a 5th Dimensional axis. He would just need to be brought into it. I was considering giving Solaris involuntary dimensional manipulation for that matter.

 

[LaserPrecision]

If the Supers never fight Solaris's true 5D form, how would they have affected his true form?

IMO they shouldn't have 5D potency if they never actually affected his true form and only affected his 4D avatar.

Rest is fine.


How so?

They would need to affect his true form to stop him from forming another avatar. The true form creates the avatar. The avatar can't create itself if it didn't exist to begin with. Them pacifying Solaris would require them to have hax potent enough to affect a being with an infinitely more complex nature.

 

[Eseseso]

They would need to affect his true form to stop him from forming another avatar. The true form creates the avatar. The avatar can't create itself if it didn't exist to begin with. Them pacifying Solaris would require them to have hax potent enough to affect a being with an infinitely more complex nature.

Ok, I guess.

How exactly did they prevent Solaris from making another avatar?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Ok, I guess.

How exactly did they prevent Solaris from making another avatar?

Just via Chaos Energy. At the beginning of their battle, they're told that "standard attacks" do nothing. So they start charging up chaos energy to attack Solaris. It's why I said the most "basic" application of CE was used to pull off the feat.

 

[JJSliderman]

Disagree with the true form thing, it doesn’t make sense that Solaris would only bring out its true form when it was about to die instead of just using that power to stop itself from being defeated during the boss fight, and the true form is only hinted to exist in the localized version. Spark in this context makes more sense to be the last remnants of Solaris, as opposed to its true self.

 

[Robo432343]

doesn't this make sonic a smurf

 

[LaserPrecision]

Disagree with the true form thing, it doesn’t make sense that Solaris would only bring out its true form when it was about to die instead of just using that power to stop itself from being defeated during the boss fight, and the true form is only hinted to exist in the localized version. Spark in this context makes more sense to be the last remnants of Solaris, as opposed to its true self.

They didn't "bring out" their true form. It's always present within the 5 Dimensional axis. It can simply pilot a form that can access the 4 Dimensional axis and from there interact with the world.

Also, what would the true form even do to help stop there defeat? There's not really anything it can do that would've helped. Why would it be the remnants of Solaris? We know Solaris originated from sparks and a flame. We learn that early on in the game. I think it's quite clearly Solaris' original form.

doesn't this make sonic a smurf

Super Sonic anyway.

 

[JJSliderman]

That said I think Solaris is 5D regardless, he’s considered superdimensional to characters that have physically transcended into a 4D space.

 

[Brogeefrong]

This will have serious implications for the Archieverse as well, agree for now until someone brings counters

so we will have 7d deadline

 

[LaserPrecision]

That said I think Solaris is 5D regardless, he’s considered superdimensional to characters that have physically transcended into a 4D space.

I disagree with them being 5D in the form we fight. That one is explicitly stated to exist on the time axis. And that it was being anchored across time. Meaning when it isn't anchored (Or rather its original self) it would be 5D. But if you disagree with that notion, you essentially disagree with the CRT overall. The basis of 5D in my CRT is reliant on the Solaris we fight being a form/avatar Solaris can take.

 

[Hiryu-Z]

I Agree

 

[Brogeefrong]

btw does this mean there will be a low 1c Solaris key?

 

[LaserPrecision]

btw does this mean there will be a low 1c Solaris key?

No. As stated in OP, this doesn't affect AP in any way.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

I did mean to use "true form" loosely. Just for a lack of better words due to Sonic's statement about it being the "true Solaris". Just figured that was the best way to summarize it.

Ok, nice to know.

The two seem pretty distinct tbh. One exists across all of time in a space looking "nexus". The sparks of Solaris is within a black void that appears to Sonic and Elise (Not sure why ONLY them. From a story point I get it, but not really explained why only they were selected) after his defeat and the "Nexus" glowing and engulfing everyone. I wasn't arguing the two had different motives or anything. Just that the "True Solaris" was using an avatar to extract revenge and destroy all of existence.

Solaris exists across all timelines, but the area at which each Super hedgehog is fighting/confronting Solaris is a Black Void. In fact the entire area where Sonic's friends were stuck on was an empty void that was barely existing and would be destroyed eventually. Which is why everyone was hurrying to resurrect Sonic.
The Black Void where the sparks of Solaris is almost the exact same black void where Sonic and co were stuck on before.
I will explain further on your next point.

The "True Solaris" wasn't the flame tbf. It was a spark. The spark took them to the flame. I feel it's important to mention Sonic said that after Elise asked if he defeated them, to which he replied no.

Let's watch the scene you are referring to real quick:



^After defeating Solaris' form of rage, Sonic and Co watch as Solaris implodes, engulfing everyone into the light.
Seemingly everyone just disappears, except for Sonic and Elise (for narrative purposes). They are floating in a black void. Keep in mind nothing visually implies Solaris warped the Void where everyone was in seconds earlier, it just swept up everyone and left Elise and Sonic.

After briefly floating in nothing, Sonic and Elise watch as the Sparks of Solaris' power appear, which transports them to the past where Solaris was still a flame. Solaris' original and true form is directly stated to be the flame itself. And the sparks transported Elise and Sonic to the past. It's heavily implied that the sparks time traveled Elise and Sonic as evidenced by Elise's brief flashback to when she was a child and her returning to the same exact location as seen in the flashback. Solaris is also noticeably calm. Then Elise blows Solaris out.

Not sure why you'd disagree for any of these reasons. Nor did I intend to imply Solaris was "killed" when they defeated his physical form/shell. They simply left it in a passive state.

Exactly! And I think I know what those "sparks" were at the end. After Solaris imploded, it had already been affected by Sonic, Shadow and Silver's Positive Aura. As it was being reverted back to its calm state, it engulfed everything that was left, leaving behind a completely empty black void, even more empty than the one that existed before. Sonic and Elise were handpicked by Solaris to stay existing and then those "sparks" appeared, taking both of them into the past. Those "sparks" of light was the True Solaris after the implosion. Solaris was successfully calmed down and sent Sonic and Elise to the past to kill itself before it did anything!

Simple. They were brought to the dimension by Solaris' implosion (Well, looked more like an explosion than the former. As for why them specifically and no one else? Not sure. Never really explained). This has nothing to do with power. He wouldn't need to grow above Super form to be brought to a 5th Dimensional axis. He would just need to be brought into it. I was considering giving Solaris involuntary dimensional manipulation for that matter.

That "dimension" you are referring to isn't another dimension. Never implied in any official material. What I could decipher is that Solaris removed everyone in the same location that everyone was stuck in initially, except of course Sonic and Elise. Solaris allowed those two to time travel with its own power, in order to erase itself.
There is no proof that the True Solaris is in any way qualitatively superior to the Solaris Sonic and co fought.
Think of it this way:
Base Sonic and Werehog Sonic are the same guy, and Base Sonic is Sonic's original form. Does that mean Base Sonic >> Werehog? Not necessarily.
Solaris' original form is simply it being passive, its form when angry is it using its power destructively.

Also as a side note: The anchored dimensional stuff is never mentioned in the JP sub
"あの光の身体は超次元生命体の証 様々な次元を吸い込んだヤツの身体には 生半可な攻撃はもはや通用せん! だが……この次元に ヤツの存在を保っているモノが きっとあるはずじゃ
That body of light is proof of a super-dimensional life form, and its body, which has absorbed various dimensions, can no longer be half-heartedly attacked! But ...... There must be something in this dimension that is keeping him alive.

それこそがおそらく ヤツの身体に見えるあの光殻あれを全て破壊すれば ヤツを倒せるに違いない!
"That's probably what you see on his body, that light shell, and if you destroy all of them, you must be able to defeat him!"
Scans for those translations
Eggman said that Solaris’ body was active only due to the light shells (aka Solaris’ armor). Obviously this analysis was wrong, as Solaris came back without his armor in the next phase. The 06 cast thought that Solaris’ main source of vitality was the light shells in his body, however they were proven wrong when Solaris came back without his light shells. Then they realized that it was actually Solaris’ red core that was keeping him “alive” in the dimension.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

This wouldn't be low 1-C range even if super forms could interact with it. Low 1-C range only works for stuff that has qualitative superiority.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Solaris exists across all timelines, but the area at which each Super hedgehog is fighting/confronting Solaris is a Black Void. In fact the entire area where Sonic's friends were stuck on was an empty void that was barely existing and would be destroyed eventually. Which is why everyone was hurrying to resurrect Sonic.
The Black Void where the sparks of Solaris is almost the exact same black void where Sonic and co were stuck on before.
I will explain further on your next point.

The void there in isn't completely black. It looks more akin to a universe with nebulous looking clouds in the background. Keep in mind I just mean that's how it looks like. The universe was obviously destroyed immediately upon Solaris' "birth". Nor was the void Sonic's friends were in. It also looked purple and gaseous. The fight with Solaris happened in the heart of the nexus at the top of the distortion they were caught in.

^After defeating Solaris' form of rage, Sonic and Co watch as Solaris implodes, engulfing everyone into the light.
Seemingly everyone just disappears, except for Sonic and Elise (for narrative purposes). They are floating in a black void. Keep in mind nothing visually implies Solaris warped the Void where everyone was in seconds earlier, it just swept up everyone and left Elise and Sonic.

Actually, it looks like the opposite. It looks like ONLY Elise and Sonic were swept into a completely new area.

After briefly floating in nothing, Sonic and Elise watch as the Sparks of Solaris' power appear, which transports them to the past where Solaris was still a flame. Solaris' original and true form is directly stated to be the flame itself. And the flame likely used the sparks to transport Elise and Sonic to the past. It's heavily implied that the sparks time traveled Elise and Sonic as evidenced by Elise's brief flashback to when she was a child and her returning to the same exact location as seen in the flashback. Solaris is also noticeably calm. Then Elise blows Solaris out.

I unironically never interpreted that as them being brought to the past. I just viewed it as them being transported to the location of Solaris' origin which was still in-tact (As were several other zones which were scattered across the Nexus). And the flashback was meant to show it was the same place that it all started. But I never got the indication of it being the past. Especially when the timeline was already splintered. Would also explain why the room was very dark and no one was there at all. I do agree to it being Solaris' original true form.

Exactly! And I think I know what those "sparks" were at the end. After Solaris imploded, it had already been affected by Sonic, Shadow and Silver's Positive Aura. As it was being reverted it engulfed everything that was left, leaving behind a completely empty black void, even more empty than the one that existed before. Sonic and Elise were handpicked by Solaris to stay existing and then those "sparks" appeared, taking both of them into the past. Those "sparks" of light was the True Solaris after the implosion. Solaris was successfully calmed down and sent Sonic and Elise to the past to kill itself before it did anything!

I don't completely agree with the idea that it was restored by their positive aura. I suppose it seems possible, but I just believe Solaris was left in a docile state. A state in which they couldn't hurt someone if they wanted to. The flame of Solaris was never shown to cause any harm by itself, and was used and experimented on by its own worshippers. If they had any power to actually fight back, I believe they would have from the start of the experiments. But it does explain why only Sonic and Elise were swept away, so it does have merit.

That "dimension" you are referring to isn't another dimension. Never implied in any official material. What I could decipher is that Solaris removed everyone in the same location that everyone was stuck in initially, except of course Sonic and Elise. Solaris allowed those two to time travel with its own power, in order to erase itself.
There is no proof that the True Solaris is in any way qualitatively superior to the Solaris Sonic and co fought.
Think of it this way:
Base Sonic and Werehog Sonic are the same guy, and Base Sonic is Sonic's original form. Does that mean Base Sonic >> Werehog? Not necessarily.
Solaris' original form is simply it being passive, its form when angry is it using its power destructively.

I think you're misunderstanding what I mean by dimension. I'm not talking about qualitatively superior dimensions that warrant Low 1-C ap by vs wiki standards. I'm talking about simply adding another mathematical axis that Solaris can move along. Like how we can move with length, height, and depth. And another dimension is very much implied by Eggman. Who stated he was a super-dimensional life form that was being anchored to the temporal axis (Thus why it could exist across all of time simultaneously). This would simply mean that it normally isn't limited to the temporal axis and can actually move across a 5th one if they so desired. Nor did I imply True Form Solaris > Form we fight. I think the two are EXACTLY the same. One is just a form they take to exist across the 4th dimension, whereas normally, they'd move across a 5th dimensional axis. I don't know where people are getting the idea I suggested that. But if I did, let me know where please.

Also as a side note: The anchored dimensional stuff is never mentioned in the JP sub
"あの光の身体は超次元生命体の証 様々な次元を吸い込んだヤツの身体には 生半可な攻撃はもはや通用せん! だが……この次元に ヤツの存在を保っているモノが きっとあるはずじゃ
That body of light is proof of a super-dimensional life form, and its body, which has absorbed various dimensions, can no longer be half-heartedly attacked! But ...... There must be something in this dimension that is keeping him alive.

それこそがおそらく ヤツの身体に見えるあの光殻あれを全て破壊すれば ヤツを倒せるに違いない!
That's probably what you see on his body, that light shell, and if you destroy all of them, you must be able to defeat him!"
Scans for those translations
Eggman said that Solaris’ body was active only due to the light shells (aka Solaris’ armor). Obviously this analysis was wrong, as Solaris came back without his armor in the next phase. The 06 cast thought that Solaris’ main source of vitality was the light shells in his body, however they were proven wrong when Solaris came back without his light shells. Then they realized that it was actually Solaris’ red core that was keeping him “alive” in the dimension.

Honestly, I don't know why our ideas can't co-exist. It kinda seems like you don't disagree with my proposals, but rather disagree with the way I worded it if anything. You stated in your latest comment that Solaris' core was keeping them alive in THE DIMENSION.

It seems like you'd agree to Solaris' in their "true form" being able to move in the 5th dimension, just that they aren't separate from the body we fight. But rather it being a form they can take.

It just seems like you're disagreeing with the way I put it rather than my proposals. Or to put it simply, we came to the same conclusion through different premises. I don't care too much about the premise if we do come to the same exact conclusion though.

 

[LaserPrecision]

This wouldn't be low 1-C range even if super forms could interact with it. Low 1-C range only works for stuff that has qualitative superiority.

Would would being able to affect something that exist on a 5th dimensional axis warrant for range then? Interdimensional? I did offer that as an alternative in the OP.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Would would being able to affect something that exist on a 5th dimensional axis warrant for range then? Interdimensional? I did offer that as an alternative in the OP.

Not quite sure on that. It does grant people the ability to interact with said non qualitative beings though.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Seems good. I agree with the revision.

 

[Remus1998]

How so?

The Chaos Force binds a planes of existence which would include this theoretical plane of existence that Solaris' self resides in, which would bump everyone with a Super State or higher to 6D and Deadline would become 1-C (Assuming we can prove that Solaris' plane of existence is qualitatively inferior to the Chaos Force)