The_Yellow_Topaz
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PREMISE
- As discussed on the last thread where the upgrade was last attempted, the topic was discussed in several threads with overwhelming rejection based on the site's standards and the staff's scrutinity over the large gap that the statement implies. Because of this, Staff itself has suggested a discussion rule on the very thread, but after it was closed, no user has followed through. This thread is meant to do just that. I will be explaining the entire upgrade argument, and why the site rejects it before making a draft of the new rule.
- In all these threads, we can see the following statements:
- Goku states that if they don't stop buu, the universe would go 'poof', this also being present in the Japanese version.[1] The wording 'poof' is argued to be an implication of an incredibly fast destruction of the universe, and therefore implying Kid Buu was going to cause a 3-A, or even worse, a Low 2-C to 2-C feat after he killed the heroes.
- If the Goku statement is discarded, it's important to point out how Shin and Kibito are scared for their lives after Buu supposedly destroys the universe, as Elder Kai has said Buu would eventually come for them in the Kaioshin Realm, meaning it would take at most 75.000 years to destroy the universe. Based on Toei calcs on overtime destruction, it comes off as 3-B.[1]
- Following the evidence used for the upgrade, I will now inform everyone why they were formally rejected by the site's standards.
- While the validity of the statement is not being put in question, given Goku's carefree demeanor, a lack of shown knowledge of the caliber of his statements, it's been considered that 'poof' is just a figure of speech for the universe being eventually gone as there is no one to defend it. Furthermore, even as we consider this statement to be an implication of fast universal destruction, this is a severe gap between the verse's strongest feat which caps at 4-B! By that metric, the single statement from Goku is then considered far too weak to sustain such a large upgrade when no character has shown any sort of capacity to accomplish this prior to Dragon Ball Super, where Universal Destruction is only achieved by individuals who dwarf Kid Buu in every way, while still being portrayed as an impressive display of power! This would then be pointless if the intention was to make Kid Buu universal in the same way as Beerus and Goku were. パア also means to disappear completely, not in a fast rate like 'poof'
- None of these statements have any sort of indication of the rate of destruction, we can conclude Buu is an universal threat because he is immortal and can destroy any stars in the universe one at the time.
- The original statement only says Buu will go to the Kaioshin Realm eventually, not after them! This means there is no time limit as to how long it would take Buu to destroy the universe!
RULE DRAFT
- Please avoid proposing an upgrade to Kid Buu's destructive capabilities to 3-A or Low 2-C solely based on the interpretation of universal statements and associated evidence. This specific upgrade suggestion has undergone thorough discussion and scrutiny in past threads, aligning with the site's established standards and assessments by the staff. The purpose of this rule is to maintain consistency and prevent repetitive debates on this topic.
