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2-C Dragon Ball Characters

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Since we know for a fact that a Dragon Ball universe(specifically universe 7) contains multiple universe sized space time continuums(Mortal, afterlife, demonrealm), shouldn't Merged Zamasu merging with universe 7 be a 2-C feat rather than a Low 2-C feat?
 
"The power difference between Low 2-C and 2-C characters is not possible to exactly quantify, given that the latter category has to breach the distance between universes along a 5-dimensional axis." --Tiering System Page


Otherworld and the Demon Realm are not located along a 5-dimensional axis, as there are alternate timeline versions of the Supreme Kais and even Dabura, as proven in DBSuper. They're demonstrably all a part of the same space-time continuum, rather than having seperate ones. Ergo, Low 2-C. They might be destroying a fairly large universe counting the extra realms, but it doesn't classify as 2-C.
 
This again?

Those realms aren't separate space-times. It just means Universe 7 is larger than a conventional universe, so still Low 2-C.
 
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/moLe6pv

Well here's the thing, no one has ever brought this link to the table.

Dende says that Buu is breaking the walls between dimensions while using vice shout, he even directly compares it to when he escapes the time chamber. Now we know that vice shout is a move that directly tears holes in space time, and we know that the hyperbolic time chamber is a separate space time continuum.

So if Buu, using vice shout, is cracking the walls between dimensions, then that heavily implies that the each realm has its own space time continuum.
 
We've been through this so many times.

Although time passes by differently than the mortal realm, although the Demon Realm is the flat out opposite of the Mortal Realm and has it's physics dictated by Magic instead of Science, it's all somehow a singular timeline. That's the conclusion brought.

I don't get it nor why this conclusion was immediately accepted, but it's the general gist.
 
Akreious said:
We've been through this so many times.

Although time passes by differently than the mortal realm, although the Demon Realm is the flat out opposite of the Mortal Realm and has it's physics dictated by Magic instead of Science, it's all somehow a singular timeline. That's the conclusion brought.

I don't get it nor why this conclusion was immediately accepted, but it's the general gist.
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Huh?
 
And, for the last time, the Other World and the Living World are the exact same dimension - same space, even. They are just sealed by a thin, magical barrier. The Daizenshuu states this.
 
Uh...almost every single thread on the matter brings Boo's Vice Shout to the table.

Has it even been debunked? I've never seen anyone mention this. Also exactly what makes the universe globes separate space time continuums but not the realms? They all flow the same IIRC.
 
The 12 universes literally exist within individual, spherical "shells" settled in a circular formation around the highest dimension, outside the 12 Universes, the King of All's Palace/Realm. Time seems to flow the same between them, sure--out of convenience for the gods, no doubt.

Not to mention, does that bit with Dende ever even happen in the manga? I'm not so sure.
 
@Stoned the structure of the U7 globe is used throughout the entire Dragon Ball continuity, so Dende's statement can be used.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
@Stoned the structure of the U7 globe is used throughout the entire Dragon Ball continuity, so Dende's statement can be used.
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If it isn't in the manga, it isn't canon to Super.
 
A Stoned Orc said:
Zamasu Chan said:
@Stoned the structure of the U7 globe is used throughout the entire Dragon Ball continuity, so Dende's statement can be used.
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If it isn't in the manga, it isn't canon to Super.
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> Inb4 Bubbles, Tarble, and other Anime-Exclusives are brought up in DBS
 
Zamasu Chan said:
It's also somewhere in the daizenshuu IIRC.
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Yes - in the specific "Anime-Only" section. Which just goes out of its own to prove it's non-canon.
 
Zamasu Chan wrote:

Kepekley23 wrote: At least the size of the universe. And this is across the entire continuity? Yes, in fact the Z anime's version of the universal globe is canon-ish, since Toriyama personally oversaw it and the Grand Kai appeared on the anime several months before he was mentioned in the manga.

^This is what you said in another thread. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2608478?useskin=oasis
 
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Zamasu Chan wrote:

Kepekley23 wrote: At least the size of the universe. And this is across the entire continuity? Yes, in fact the Z anime's version of the universal globe is canon-ish, since Toriyama personally oversaw it and the Grand Kai appeared on the anime several months before he was mentioned in the manga.

^This is what you said in another thread. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2608478?useskin=oasis
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Yes, and I meant the Other World Saga. Is the Boo Saga the Other World Saga?
 
Other World Saga was part of the Buu Saga, no? Meh, doesn't matter.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
This again?

Those realms aren't separate space-times. It just means Universe 7 is larger than a conventional universe, so still Low 2-C.
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Actual they are both the Afterlife and the Demon Realm are not within the flow of time the physical universe is in.
 
So should we close this thread?
 
@Ant-Sama we're still discussing this.

@Kep as the daizenshuu states.

"Overwhelmed by Vegetto, Buu went into a frenzy and generated this, which caused distortions in space around him. It seems that this power was also what enabled Buu to escape the Room of Spirit and Time. This space would -cover the living world- and wipe out the universe."

If vice shout, a space time ability, is covering the living world to destroy it that means the mortal universe has its own space time.
 
And as I have already clarified to you, the Daizenshuu has separate sections for Filler/Anime-Only and the Manga, with that entry falling under the former section.
 
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