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So as was told in previous threads and suggested by staff like @Sir_Ovens and @Firestorm808 there's a need to put a stop to frequent Alien X upgrade/downgrade threads with same arguments repeated thousands times over. I'm not trying to put a complete stop on any thread pertaining to Alien X, but- i would like to put a complete stop on at least the arguments that have been severely overused and aren't accepted by creators, show context and community, and put a stop on it. One can always create a thread related to Alien X but not on certain topics discussed several times in the past to the point of being a nuisance.
Agree: @DarkDragonMedeus, @Planck69, @Elizhaa, @AbaddonTheDisappointment, @Firestorm808, @StrymULTRA, @Hasty12345, @OMNIVERSAL-KING, @DemonicDude, @AdamVhenJP, @Lynieryz, @ProfectusInfinity, @Spectra_Schiffer, @Lord_Farquaad69420 , @Eseseso
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Ben 10 Rules brief elaboration:
- Do not attempt to downgrade Alien X from any argument pertaining to Atomic X or Osmosians. We have dealt with such arguments many times over and over. Due to biological and DNA alteration, a very basic structure of a being, alteration of which, even if by a small percentage, can have vast differences, we cannot assume any scaling of powers and abilities between Atomic X and the parent DNA. Take, for example, Gwen and Ben. Both are a hybrid of Anodite and human, yet they do not automatically scale to regular Anodites. Pierce Wheels, despite being a hybrid of human and Argit DNA, doesn't have paralyzing venom his sharp quills, unlike Argit. Another example would be the hybrid BigChuck. Despite being a Tokustar and Upchuck fusion, he was brought down by a few of Eon's human-sized minions two times when purebred Tokustars themselves could take on an entire army at any day and time.
- Do not attempt to create threads claiming Alien X is only the most powerful in hax abilities and not attack potency. While them being omnipotent can be argued to only apply toward a “high level of reality warping” abilities, it ends up being a semantics debate. It's highly unlikely that they're the most powerful only because they have absolute control over reality, considering that there is a warrior class of Celestialsapiens who rely on their physical might rather than hax. Even Professor Paradox is capable of such things, and this extends to being capable of destroying it all. This was never called or treated at the same level as a Celestialsapien's omnipotence. On the other hand, Celestialsapiens have been called and treated as such multiple times, so it's highly unlikely for a Celestialsapien to scale incredibly lower than the Cyborginized Professor Paradox in AP. Additionally, they have not shown a lack of physical might or have any anti-feat to consider it exceptionally out of his Omnipotent characteristics. As beings who hold infinite power, they are capable of breaching the Extra-Dimensional Barrier. Alien X was unfazed when the Annhilargh activated in front of him. There's also a point that Aggregor wanted to have Celestialsapien powers when he already had one of the most powerful objects in the Universe including Alpha Rune, which provides its wielder absolute power over all magic with which he can warp reality without being concerned with laws or rules, and complete control over Legerdomain, the Map of Infinity that can bend all of time and space. Furthermore, It has never been established in Ben 10 that "Powerful hax equates to being more powerful than another regardless of AP differences", one always had to cover for AP differences too, for instance, Gwen being called the most powerful being on earth by Dagon because she had higher AP than anyone else on earth, it doesn't have anything to do with her being great reality warper or magician but simply that her AP covers for it. Osmosians or Feedback were never treated as more powerful than another solely because they have absorption hax far beyond any. Waybig is considered Ben's most powerful transformation (aside from Alien X) because he has raw strength greater than any of his other aliens, even when Ben has an arsenal of haxes because of the variety of aliens he has, they're not a match for Waybig when it comes to AP. So it's much of a roundabout way to look at things, rather than going straight.
Farewell, Alien X. As we part ways, the bittersweet realization sets in that this may be our final meeting until a new series emerges. The weight of uncertainty lingers, mingling with a tinge of longing for future adventures together. Until we meet again, our hearts are filled with both fond memories and hopeful anticipation for what lies ahead. Goodbye, dear friend.
Agree: @DarkDragonMedeus, @Planck69, @Elizhaa, @AbaddonTheDisappointment, @Firestorm808, @StrymULTRA, @Hasty12345, @OMNIVERSAL-KING, @DemonicDude, @AdamVhenJP, @Lynieryz, @ProfectusInfinity, @Spectra_Schiffer, @Lord_Farquaad69420 , @Eseseso
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