Sonic vs Goku, Infinite Shiny edition(grace period)

[Omegabronic]

Yeah, sonic is 2-A now, everyone knew this was coming no need to pretend to be surprised

Hyper sonic and Ultra God mission Perfected Ultra Instinct Goku are used
Hyper sonic is "possibly 2-A"
speed equalized

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Shining Silver Saiyan warrior of time and space:

sore ga requiem da(aka incon):

battle theme because why tf not am i right?

 

[ShakeResounding]

 

[TheGreatBanana]

It......has began.

Now, what are sonic's wincons?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Not wasting any time I see.

 

[Quantu]

How deep is your love Sonic's Immeasurable speed?

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

How deep is your love Sonic's Immeasurable speed?

Pretty sure he scales above Solaris at his peak in super sonic state and then gets faster after that
so I think cc goku’s immeasurable speed scaling chain would be vastly higher

 

[Omegabronic]

How deep is your love Sonic's Immeasurable speed?

Hyper sonic>>>super sonic at peak>super sonic during the time eater fight, plus and 8x speed amp with the boost and in his reactions

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

a battle theme bro, just for fun lol.

 

[Greenshifter]

Can I argue passives here?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Is speed equalised?

 

[Omegabronic]

a battle theme bro, just for fun lol.

nah, got one better than that bro

Can I argue passives here?

which one's?

 

[Greenshifter]

First opinion is Goku speed blitz dura neg dura neg dura neg till Sonic runs out of resurrections via soul gauge and what not. Assuming that Sonic doesn’t resist dura neg.

 

[Quantu]

Oh boy, DBH immeasurable speed scaling chain is HUGE. Especially for this UGM PUI Goku, who is >> Crimson, who is >>>>> (a lot, lot more >) Base Chronoa who is baseline Immeasurable

 

[Omegabronic]

Is speed equalised?

both are immeasurable and are vastly above baseline while sonic has and in character 8x speed amp, so no need i guess, that can change if needed

 

[Greenshifter]

which one's?

Stamina reduction and dura neg mostly since I think only that’s accepted.

 

[Greenshifter]

both are immeasurable and are vastly above baseline while sonic has and in character 8x speed amp, so no need i guess, that can change if needed

There is need, probs. Goku’s scaling chain is massive, Sonic would need the Spindash here.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

First opinion is Goku speed blitz dura neg dura neg dura neg till Sonic runs out of resurrections via soul gauge and what not. Assuming that Sonic doesn’t resist dura neg.

I think goku has immortality type 3 and 4 negation i was checking out his profile

both are immeasurable and are vastly above baseline while sonic has and in character 8x speed amp, so no need i guess, that can change if needed

You might have to make it equalized or I think goku just speed blitzes

 

[Omegabronic]

First opinion is Goku speed blitz dura neg dura neg dura neg till Sonic runs out of resurrections via soul gauge and what not. Assuming that Sonic doesn’t resist dura neg.

8x speed amp, is there a quantifiable ammount of times this goku is above baseline? also which type of durability neg? sonic in invulnerable btw

 

[TheGreatBanana]

both are immeasurable and are vastly above baseline while sonic has and in character 8x speed amp, so no need i guess, that can change if needed

So....At best, sonic is 10x above baseline? Ohh...boy- you'd need to equalised speed, since uh....even withouth scaling chains, goku is 50.000x above baseline.

 

[Greenshifter]

Wait since when does CC have DD?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

8x speed amp, is there a quantifiable ammount of times this goku is above baseline? also which type of durability neg? sonic in invulnerable btw

Yeah there, assuming base goku is basleine [he isn't. He is...way...wayy...wayyy above it], ssj is 50x above baseline, ssbkk20 is 50.000x above baseline, and MUI is above that

 

[Greenshifter]

8x speed amp, is there a quantifiable ammount of times this goku is above baseline? also which type of durability neg? sonic in invulnerable btw

No idea what’s accepted here for speed but yeah a few kaiokens can probably be stacked.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Wait since when does CC have DD?

What’s DD?

No idea what’s accepted here for speed but yeah a few kaiokens can probably be stacked.

Yeah Kaioken is accepted a speed multiplier too

 

[Greenshifter]

8x speed amp, is there a quantifiable ammount of times this goku is above baseline? also which type of durability neg? sonic in invulnerable btw

No idea what the dura neg actually does, been meaning to figure that out for a while now.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Wait since when does CC have DD?

He doesn't

 

[Greenshifter]

What’s DD?

Yeah Kaioken is accepted a speed multiplier too

Dimensional Domain, sets Sonic’s stamina to 1 when he attacks leading to incap if he goes through with it.

I’m aware.

 

[Greenshifter]

He doesn't

Check his page. Oh wait it’s the non-passive one probs

 

[Omegabronic]

Stamina reduction and dura neg mostly since I think only that’s accepted.

sonic stamina is superior to infinite, so nothing on that, also sonic can durability need also

speed equalized now why is it always sonic who needs speed equal to make it fair for him lol

 

[TheGreatBanana]

sonic stamina is superior to infinite, so nothing on that, also sonic can durability need also

speed equalized now why is it always sonic who needs speed equal to make it fair for him lol

How good is infinite's stamina? Because goku's stamina reduction can work on beings that have infinite stamina

 

[Omegabronic]

No idea what’s accepted here for speed but yeah a few kaiokens can probably be stacked.

can he use kaioken while in ultra instinct? has he ever done so?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic can also dura neg with the Ichikoro Gauge.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

can he use kaioken while in ultra instinct? has he ever done so?

No he cannot, that would end his body lol.
Alright, what are sonic wincons? What does he start with? And are OE allowed?

 

[Greenshifter]

sonic stamina is superior to infinite, so nothing on that, also sonic can durability need also

speed equalized now why is it always sonic who needs speed equal to make it fair for him lol

Stamina attacks in DBH work on infinite stamina androids. Goku resists probs.

Soon that’ll change.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Oh Goku has durability Neg via cards and he can use cards to swap stamina with people or reset their stamina to 0

Sonic can also dura neg with the Ichikoro Gauge.

what type of dura Neg

 

[Greenshifter]

can he use kaioken while in ultra instinct? has he ever done so?

No I meant that the KK is in the chain because Goku scales higher than when he first appeared.

 

[Greenshifter]

No he cannot, that would end his body lol.
Alright, what are sonic wincons? What does he start with? And are OE allowed?

Can Goku resist temporal AoE? He probably can but just making sure here.

 

[Vietthai96]

Dimensional Domain, sets Sonic’s stamina to 1 when he attacks leading to incap if he goes through with it.

I’m aware.

He doesn't has it, but still has passive stamina reduction, just take longer to reduce his opponents stamina compare to DD which instantly reduce to 1

Stamina attacks in DBH work on infinite stamina androids

It also work on TPU Mechikabura

Speed equalize is one thing, but Goku has superior combat and reaction speed due to Complete UI, however UI has time limit, it can run out though

 

[Omegabronic]

How good is infinite's stamina? Because goku's stamina reduction can work on beings that have infinite stamina

really? like who? btw, sonic can just think and the emeralds will give him the energy back, this is how they work, hyper was accepted as 7x super sonic in everything here, so 7x infinite stamina

 

[Greenshifter]

He doesn't has it, but still has passive stamina reduction, just take longer to reduce his opponents stamina compare to DD which instantly reduce to 1

It also work on TPU Mechikabura

Speed equalize is one thing, but Goku has superior combat and reaction speed due to Complete UI, however UI has time limit, it can run out though

Aight.

Reaction speed is equalized, what you mean is maneuverability which is debatable considering the spindash.

 

[Omegabronic]

Can Goku resist temporal AoE? He probably can but just making sure here.

not from what i saw on the profile, at least, not in the one i have in this fight