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Darth Vader vs Ollerus (Star wars vs Toaru)

I'm assuming speed is equalised.

Firstly, I'm sure that Vader has the AP advantage, since you could create a laughably long scaling chain from Yarael Poof who's planet level feat is already a bit beyond baseline iirc. It doesn't matter since SW might be getting downgraded to High 6-A

The make or break thing here is hax. I have no clue as to if Ollerus is some sort of tier 1 smurf or not. That power null seems really problematic, but based on this thread it apparently can only be used on "Gods"?

The other big thing in Ollerus' favour is the hundreds of millions of explosions that apparently spawn on every part of the target's body.

I do not know of the level of mind hax resistance Ollerus possesses. If someone could tell me that would be great

As for Vader, while I am unsure of the specifics of his mind hax potential in Legends, I'm at least fairly certain its a fair bit beyond baseline. Some input from Vader experts would be pretty cool here.

Vader's precognition lets him predict his opponent's actions meaning he can be alerted to Ollerus' intent to perform the hundred million spam attack and it would be quite in character for him to just rush Ollerus and cut him up in that case. High-Low regeneration isn't enough to come back from something as severe as decapitation for example.

Anyway, because I don't know exactly the potency of Ollerus' hax and resistances I can't make a judgement as to who would win.
 
Abu2411 said:
I'm assuming speed is equalised.

Firstly, I'm sure that Vader has the AP advantage, since you could create a laughably long scaling chain from Yarael Poof who's planet level feat is already a bit beyond baseline iirc. It doesn't matter since SW might be getting downgraded to High 6-A

The make or break thing here is hax. I have no clue as to if Ollerus is some sort of tier 1 smurf or not. That power null seems really problematic, but based on this thread it apparently can only be used on "Gods"?

The other big thing in Ollerus' favour is the hundreds of millions of explosions that apparently spawn on every part of the target's body.

I do not know of the level of mind hax resistance Ollerus possesses. If someone could tell me that would be great

As for Vader, while I am unsure of the specifics of his mind hax potential in Legends, I'm at least fairly certain its a fair bit beyond baseline. Some input from Vader experts would be pretty cool here.

Vader's precognition lets him predict his opponent's actions meaning he can be alerted to Ollerus' intent to perform the hundred million spam attack and it would be quite in character for him to just rush Ollerus and cut him up in that case. High-Low regeneration isn't enough to come back from something as severe as decapitation for example.

Anyway, because I don't know exactly the potency of Ollerus' hax and resistances I can't make a judgement as to who would win.
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Yikes I forgot to equalize speed. Ollerus mind hax resistance sucks since it requires knocking himself, meanwhile Vader's mind hax is hilariously WAY above baseline. The problem is he doesn't really use it.

Power null also only works on Magic gods and it requires close contact ( a bad idea against someone with a laser sword and precognition)

Ollerus also has an attack that can affect every single organ of your body, which he kinda starts in character, it's also thought based. But Vader can do the same thing with the force, as he has shown the ability to affect internal organs. This is a battle where both can one shot the other by literally thinking
 
Doggo said:
Yikes I forgot to equalize speed. Ollerus mind hax resistance sucks since it requires knocking himself, meanwhile Vader's mind hax is hilariously WAY above baseline. The problem is he doesn't really use it.

Power null also only works on Magic gods and it requires close contact ( a bad idea against someone with a laser sword and precognition)

Ollerus also has an attack that can affect every single organ of your body, which he kinda starts in character, it's also thought based. But Vader can do the same thing with the force, as he has shown the ability to affect internal organs. This is a battle where both can one shot the other by literally thinking
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I guess I'll go incon for now then.
 
Abu2411 said:
I guess I'll go incon for now then.
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But here is the thing, Vader has precognition which could alert him of the danger Ollerus is and force him to react first. But it's likely they just use their insta wins at the same time

so incon
 
Abu2411 said:
The other big thing in Ollerus' favour is the hundreds of millions of explosions that apparently spawn on every part of the target's body.
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Just to explain, these two spells are different.

There is the wall of explosions that has these hundreds of millions explosions, while the organ target spell is his other spell with a strange name that attacks the whole body instantly.
 
XDragnoir said:
Just to explain, these two spells are different.

There is the wall of explosions that has these hundreds of millions explosions, while the organ target spell is his other spell with a strange name that attacks the whole body instantly.
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Ah OK, thanks for the clarification.
 
XDragnoir said:
Just to explain, these two spells are different.

There is the wall of explosions that has these hundreds of millions explosions, while the organ target spell is his other spell with a strange name that attacks the whole body instantly.
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Sorry for asking but...would you kindly vote?

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