Grand Priest (Dragon Ball Heroes) vs Thor (Marvel Comics)

[Arcker123]

Seeing as Dragon ball vs Comics is the new spam, why don't I join in

Odinforce Thor vs Heroes grand priest

Both 2-A

Speed equal

Fight takes place in the hyperbolic time chamber

SBA other wise

Son of Odin:

Father of the angels: Rikimarox2, Havok, Cul0r, LightReinh12345, ZoronotZolo, Sanicspood, Oliver_de_jesus

 

[Arcker123]

Is this fair?

 

[Rikimarox2]

One look at the profile, all I can see working here is matter manip and Reality warping, depending on how strong it is.

Now, how likely is he to use either, and what is the scaling chain for him?

 

[Arcker123]

How likely is gp to use EE

 

[Arcker123]

One look at the profile, all I can see working here is matter manip and Reality warping, depending on how strong it is.

He can also absorb

 

[Rikimarox2]

Do we even know what GP does in character?

Regardless, how likely is Odin to use these stuff? And what is his scaling chain? Because if it isn't that large, then GP can pretty much one shot with anything. Granted we don't know what he does.

 

[Arcker123]

And what is his scaling chain?

He is slightly weaker than dormammu and can null flames that can destroy 2-A structures

 

[Rikimarox2]

So he's above baseline by quite a bit.

In other words, GP should be able to one shot. Here's a small scaling chain for Goku:

Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Goku >
SSJG Trunks >= Dark King Mechikabura >>>>>> SSJ4 Gogeta >>>>>>> Old Mechikabura >>>>>>> Dark Broly = Final Form Mira = SSJ4 Xeno Goku > SSJ3 Xeno Goku >>>>>>> Gravy >>>>>>> Base Xeno Goku > Chamel > Demigra (Transcended Demon God) > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) >>>>>> Xenoverse Demigra (TokiToki absorbed) = Baseline 2-A

^Thanks to @Ottavio_Merluzzo

And IIRC, GP should be massively above them.

 

[Arcker123]

Odins reality warping is quote "not as potent as the powers of higher cosmic beings, but still very powerful", which doesn't tell us anything

 

[Arcker123]

Can odin do anything? is this a stomp

 

[Rikimarox2]

Odins reality warping is quote "not as potent as the powers of higher cosmic beings, but still very powerful", which doesn't tell us anything

They might as well not have told us anything lmao

Can odin do anything? is this a stomp

We still don't know what he does in character. If he uses matter hax and shit in character, it ain't a stomp.

 

[Arcker123]

off topic but would mechikabura vs dormammu be more fair?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Dk shit about Dormammu, but he seems to also have soul manip, absorption and matter manip.

The problem is, I don't see any resistances to Absorption on the profile, so Mechi just passively absorbs. Granted, idk shit about dormammu, so it might be wrong.

 

[Arcker123]

Odin can seal GP as well for another wincon

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Grand Priest probably starts with BFR or Sealing

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Tbh the P&A sections of many comic book profiles are in dire need of major cleaning up (instead of constantly changing their tiers).

Many Odinforce abilities are missing or barely touched upon (instead there's a vague placeholder about various other magic related abilities) moreover basic stuff inherit to most Aesir such as self-substance, longevity, weapon mastery, etc aren't on the profile too.

You know it's bad when Avengers Assemble Odins profile does a better job at showing and explaining ALL of the Skyfather's P&As.

I would recommend switching it to Thor or at least a more up to date profile.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Tbh the P&A sections of many comic book profiles are in dire need of major cleaning up (instead of constantly changing their tiers).

Many Odinforce abilities are missing or barely touched upon (instead there's a vague placeholder about various other magic related abilities) moreover basic stuff inherit to most Aesir such as self-substance, longevity, weapon mastery, etc aren't on the profile too.

You know it's bad when Avengers Assemble Odins profile does a better job at showing and explaining ALL of the Skyfather's P&As.

I would recommend switching it to Thor or at least a more up to date profile.

This, ironic that the only thing that is updated on Odin is its AP section

 

[Arcker123]

I found this chain: Doctor Strange < Skyfathers/Hell Lords < Dormammu =< Abstracts.

 

[Arcker123]

I would recommend switching it to Thor or at least a more up to date profile.

Would odin force or rune king be more fair

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Would odin force or rune king be more fair

Odinforce Thor would be more fairer imho since RKT has some BS fate shenanigans iirc.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Rune king can't manipulate it just destroy Fate, but omnicience is a problem

 

[Rikimarox2]

I thought it was decided Omniscience doesn't grant anything in a vs match?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Rune king Thor's omniscience works as Precog iirc

 

[Arcker123]

If we are all in agreement i will change it to odinforce thor

 

[Arcker123]

Changed it, this can continue

 

[Cul0r]

I'm gonna look into this bc I wanna see this get added.

 

[Cul0r]

Would this be inconclusive as They are both MFTL+ and extremely fast with MFTL+ ?

I'll wait for feats

 

[Rikimarox2]

Considering this is thor, I'm sure he has some good hax. What's his scaling chain tho?

 

[Cul0r]

I don't know, thats why I kinda wanna look into this

 

[Cul0r]

What does thor do in character then? I can find SDBH stuff via manga and show so ig I can look that up if that makes me somewhat useful

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

IIRC it's goes; Odinforce Thor=>Odin=other Sky-fathers/Hell-lords>Doctor Strange>Infinity*infinity*infinity (Marvel's 2-A cosmology)>X(insert big number here)>baseline 2-A.

Thor likely has the AP advantage and he normally starts out with H2H and heat vision.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

IIRC it's goes; Odinforce Thor=>Odin=other Sky-fathers/Hell-lords>Doctor Strange>Infinity*infinity*infinity (Marvel's 2-A cosmology)>X(insert big number here)>baseline 2-A.

Thor likely has the AP advantage and he normally starts out with H2H and heat vision.

Cosmology is irrelevant in 2-A now. And GP's scaling chain is FAR bigger than that

 

[Arcker123]

Would this be inconclusive as They are both MFTL+ and extremely fast with MFTL+ ?

Speed is equal

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Thor starts with Bfr if that doesn't work then he goes to H2H.

 

[Arcker123]

Thor likely has the AP advantage and he normally starts out with H2H and heat vision.

Ultra instinct is gonna be a problem then

 

[Arcker123]

Also does thor's weakness of tending to hold back apply to odin force?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

well there is basically no life on earth because of the SBA, i think not (plus he sometimes has rage Attacks when nothing goes according to his will.)

 

[Rikimarox2]

If thor is really only that strong, then GP can one shot via anything here.

 

[Arcker123]

Can't grand priest null thors flight

 

[Arcker123]

Thor starts with Bfr if that doesn't work then he goes to H2H.

BFR probably doesn't work because GP has dimensional travel and 2-A range on his teleportation