1-A Void upgrade for Shadow Fight

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That is contributable, you should add it in the OP.

Well, I am not the thread creator so I can't actually edit it. But with the evidence provided do u agree to the thread?

 

[Richard5128pm]

That is contributable, you should add it in the OP.

I'll add it now

 

[Richard5128pm]

As I said, energy is fundamentally a physical property. So therefore, one should show it as a kind of metaphysical aspect rather than a physical energy. Physical energy also has creation/destruction like the way our universe is created. So in general, these things do not make much sense.

How can we even prove it to be a physical energy, when the first thing is does is erase anything that is physical and turn them to nothingness, while also it's place of origin lacks any physicality. It doesn't make sense to me, to be honest. And pardon me, as this is the first time I'm introduced to something like this while talking about voids.

What I want to mention is that for them to move or rather advance from Non 1-A into 1-A, they will need intervention from proper 1-A beings. If they enter on their own, this will downgrade it to Non 1-A.

The void starts outside of the universe (low 2-C), so characters who are immune to it's existence erasure can just exit their universe and enter it, it doesn't really seem like a problem, as the void get 1-A rating because of it's non dimensionality and it's overall size (much vaster than physical reality).

 

[Wikisource]

How can we even prove it to be a physical energy, when the first thing is does is erase anything that is physical and turn them to nothingness, while also it's place of origin lacks any physicality. It doesn't make sense to me, to be honest. And pardon me, as this is the first time I'm introduced to something like this while talking about voids.

Erase matter doesn't mean is not a kind of physics. There are many things we can explain under sight of physical phenomena. So, my opinion doesn't change.

The void starts outside of the universe (low 2-C), so characters who are immune to it's existence erasure can just exit their universe and enter it, it doesn't really seem like a problem, as the void get 1-A rating because of it's non dimensionality and it's overall size (much vaster than physical reality).

The problem here is they can enter 1-A without any 1-A help, your explain doesn't make sense. A 1-A is non-composite. This mean is cannot reach, cannot get or innacessible form any non 1-A.

 

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The problem here is they can enter 1-A without any 1-A help, your explain doesn't make sense. A 1-A is non-composite. This mean is cannot reach, cannot get or innacessible form any non 1-A.

It doesn't say that a non 1-A character can't enter a void of nothingness. Literally the void of nothingness starts outside reality, that is why this criteria isn't usually applied to void of nothingness on this wiki. It is not a conceptual domain that is transcendent and inaccessible from reality, it is a void of nothingness. And this doesn't exclude the void of nothingness from 1-A. So it doesn't really matter cuz this is an illogical argument. The stuff that u say have never been used to exclude a void of nothingness from 1-A rating.

 

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It doesn't say that a non 1-A character can't enter a void of nothingness. Literally the void of nothingness starts outside reality, that is why this criteria isn't usually applied to void of nothingness on this wiki. It is not a conceptual domain that is transcendent and inaccessible from reality, it is a void of nothingness. And this doesn't exclude the void of nothingness from 1-A. So it doesn't really matter cuz this is an illogical argument. The stuff that u say have never been used to exclude a void of nothingness from 1-A rating.

So answer me, what do you think is the difference between tier 1-A and 11-C up to Low 1-A?

 

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So answer me, what do you think is the difference between tier 1-A and 11-C up to Low 1-A?

A tier Low 1-A can still be achieved by quantitive superiority. A 1-A can only be achieved by qualitive superiority. The composition (nothingness) surpasses the very composition of lower reality. No matter how many realities u stack u ain't getting the same composition as the void and this supperority of the void over the lower reality is also due to its non existent nature.
Quoting from BDE page "A simple example being voids of nothingness that lack space, time and physicality entirely, but are nonetheless "vaster" than physical reality in some way, with common imagery being the universe as a small object encompassed in such a backdrop." This is literally given as an example for BDE Type 2. The void in shadow fight perfectly.
Quoting another statement from the BDE Page "However, if they are applied to realms that can be inferred to surpass the very composition of the lower reality (e.g. Realms that are, themselves, non-composite, such as conceptual domains, or often, voids of nothingness), then 1-A is the most appropriate rating for them." The argument of non 1-A beings not being able to enter 1-A doesn't apply to containers ofc. As they are containers, they contain reality so just existing ur reality would put u in them while they still can be of a superior nature. But ofc the void also erases anyone who doesn't enter without special things like void tech for example.

 

[Wikisource]

The argument of non 1-A beings not being able to enter 1-A doesn't apply to containers ofc. As they are containers, they contain reality so just existing ur reality would put u in them while they still can be of a superior nature. But ofc the void also erases anyone who doesn't enter without special things like void tech for example.

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However, there are ways to bypass this barrier. For example, a non-1-A can be empowered by a higher entity into being able to influence things on a qualitatively superior level. This can happen either by a straightforward power boost, or by means of some innate metaphysical potential rooted in something from a higher reality (This can include both characters who are converted into natives of higher planes and characters who are physically lower-dimensional but have 1-A statistics). In neither case is the capability to reach into the higher level something emergent from the structure of the lower level, and therefore they are acceptable ways to get around the above hurdles.

A non 1-A being need to be empowered by a 1-A to reach 1-A. Where are you base on to say that??????

 

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@Astral_Trinity439 can you explain to him? He got big misunderstood here.

 

[Wikisource]

Ig you don't trust me because I'm a opponent with this crt. But you can ask @Ultima_Reality did what I said true or false.