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  1. DarkNoble

    Analyzing the Tiering System

    So you essentially agree with something that you simply don't understand and until explained and gone over with you will come to some sort of fruition on what should be done? You can agree with a change but agreeing with a change without understanding its consequences is not a mature thing to go...
  2. DarkNoble

    Analyzing the Tiering System

    Have you gone over everything? Checked the sources and their credibility? Proceeded to understand what's going on and not just choosing to agree with what the moderators say?
  3. DarkNoble

    Analyzing the Tiering System

    So as I'm reading it I noticed the mathematician link you gave, just gonna ask. Are they at all credible? Because going by the very definiton of mathemetician; "an expert in or student of mathematics." I mean just by this alone, that very person that had answered the question could be a...
  4. DarkNoble

    Dragon Ball Super Tier 2 Debunk

    I agree with Niarobi, the feat in which Fused Zamasu became one with the universe should make it inherently a Low 2-C feat, his entire arugmentation about the universes strcuture granting it this tier is well made and allows for the feat to pass or be used correctly in that regard. So yeah, I...
  5. DarkNoble

    Aurelion Sol Upgrade back to 3-B

    Ok so their's evidence that notes their changes when coming out of the void, there is no accountance for their power or speed being altered, so the best assumption to make from it is that it remains the same. So yes it should be good enough evidence to suggest that they are immeasurable in...
  6. DarkNoble

    Aurelion Sol Upgrade back to 3-B

    Ok when he did challenge void creatures this occured within his lore, I showed hard evidence for that. Even if the Void Creations are to step away from their realm and to enter the "League Realm" there is no indication to dictate whether they're speed and powers were reduced. The only...
  7. DarkNoble

    Aurelion Sol Upgrade back to 3-B

    First of all, I literally forgot to include the developer quotes in relation to A-Sol so thank you lots for adding that in. Another thing is, yeah the Dev Insight for any champion should be open to reading by any visitor on pages, this just helps giving them more undderstanding on who the...
  8. DarkNoble

    Aurelion Sol Upgrade back to 3-B

    Also the speed argument works, only due to the fact that he doesn't need to find in the dimension itself, he more so has fought beings from that dimension itself that do have the accountable speed set. So it should make him relative to them.
  9. DarkNoble

    Aurelion Sol Upgrade back to 3-B

    I can always link a server if you wanted to join that instead, just to make things easier to find me on.
  10. DarkNoble

    Aurelion Sol Upgrade back to 3-B

    So previously there has been a content revision thread that had been made to downgrade Aurelion Sol from 3-B to 4-B due to arguments made against the evidence that were previously provided. Furthermore, there was also a calculatio that was made which took one of Aurelion Sol's statements and...
  11. DarkNoble

    Kakuzu is Being Downplayed

    Yeah i agree with Noodles
  12. DarkNoble

    The Devastator (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high end 1-A

    I'd like to see evidence from you. Evidence that isn't reliant solely on a page created here and more so from the comic or other statements. At the moment, what I've provided is good evidence for them to be 1-A. Also if you'd love to go further into this and debate the topic, I'm more than...
  13. DarkNoble

    The Devastator (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high end 1-A

    Making references to pages aren't going be valid arguments in an attempt to debunk the claims I've made. In regards to the 1-A arguments, showing where the God Sphere lies and what it is beyond is enough to bring characters such as these into that tier. In regards to providing further evidence...
  14. DarkNoble

    Upgrading Barry Allen from 4-B to high end 1-A

    The purpose of this revision thread is to support a later thread (about the upgrade of The Red Death to 1-A). This is to porpose that Barry Allen should be placed into a higher tier, this is to prevent from commenters from relying soley on what the VSB page states on The Flash. The arguments...
  15. DarkNoble

    The Devastator (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high end 1-A

    There has been many references to the 'New Gods being platonic concpets. Which can further provide evidence as to why they can be rated at 1-A, like said before, if you care to debunk any of my arguments then feel free to drop links to scans that can do so. '
  16. DarkNoble

    The Devastator (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high end 1-A

    Show me anti-feats that can prove that these are outliers. As proven (with the evidence provided) a version of Superman had been killed by The Devastator whilst also being beaten to an extent where the assisstant of the Flash was needed in order to save him (this is in reference to the Earth 0...
  17. DarkNoble

    The Devastator (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high end 1-A

    As previously stated, I did provide evidence as to why the New Gods' should be scaling to such lengths. Currently, no evidence has been provided to debunk such feats, more so just references to pages. For example, as you requested for Superman facing the New Gods, here is one iteration in which...
  18. DarkNoble

    The Devastator (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high end 1-A

    First of all, I had never argued for Wally to be 1-A, my arguments were for The Devastator defeating him and thus being faster than him. As for the Superman argument, there have been iterations of Superman facing foes such as Darkseid and Orion, whom both reside from the God Sphere, this area of...
  19. DarkNoble

    The Devastator (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high end 1-A

    I'm here to bring another upgrade to a member of the Dark Knights, this time being The Devastator. My reasoning behind why he should be upgraded in terms of both his AP and speed. I believe that he deserves the upgrade into high end 1-A, due to his comparisons to Superman (By initally killing...
  20. DarkNoble

    The Merciless (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high 1-A

    Being neutral on this is fine, more so its just the natural reaction of when someone disregards feats that can place DC characters at such a tier
  21. DarkNoble

    The Merciless (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high 1-A

    What made you think that if one characters true form is presented in one iteration that those that can possess true forms before hand cannot have them or be in that state?
  22. DarkNoble

    The Merciless (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high 1-A

    In what regard have they become an outlier? There are many statements that can support the fact that they achieve such a tier, either from older comics or newer.
  23. DarkNoble

    The Merciless (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high 1-A

    [https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2014/08/18/the-map-of-the-multiverse I do hope you're reffering to this map that is on the DC offical website, plus you would need to present any evidence that the gods that The Merciless had faced were not their true forms, as previously preformed by Gods like...
  24. DarkNoble

    The Merciless (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high 1-A

    Have you viewed the DC Cosmology and where the Old Gods are? Nonetheless he has to travel to that area in order for his 'one man war' to be enacted. Which would show that he hadn't faced the avatars of those gods, more so he had faced the true forms of them.
  25. DarkNoble

    The Merciless (Dark Multiverse) upgrade to high 1-A

    Coming off of reading the Dark Multiverse comics and grasping an understanding of them, I thought it was best to roam the pages on VSB made for them. My favourite character of the Dark Knights, being The Merciless, was placed at 4-B, due to the nature of him defeating heroes such as, Wonder Woma...
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