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  1. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    DiE should be both L2C via Hax and durability, he tanked his own timelines destruction. It should be clear as day.
  2. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Well. it doesn't mean perfect, and most of them is Science Fiction and not our science and as such their science is part of fantasy, i mean Time Machine? Traveling between dimensions? Making tools out of pure data into physical? And speaking to a machine? Do we have that technology yet? Of...
  3. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Just like i said, don't take Black Holes literally, Is not reliable and most of time will lead to even confusing scaling just like you can't take "Lightspeed" in fiction to be literal speed of light since most author only meant it as superhumanly fast. Sure they are from different universes...
  4. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    No that's not how it worked, where's the logic black hole can consume planet? Where did you get that idea? Unless is explicitly stated Scar can destroy planets with his Black Hole, Scar will never reach 5b. There are so many black holes ability in fiction but half of them can't even destroyed a...
  5. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    The black hole never stated to be gigantic as star, black hole comes in many size in fiction you know? Take Ainz Ooal Gow for example, he can also create black hole but only at small size. Scar being gigantic is not even reaches whole stage to be considered close to star level.
  6. Non-Elemental

    Yu-Gi-Oh Infinite Power

    If they are so "Infinite" then they must be weak as well because look at Divine Serpent Geh who also has Infinite Attack. Yugi destroyed it so easily. Joking aside tho, i don't think we should take that seriously thought because of what? Because Exodia can one shot the game it self so if...
  7. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Solace speed come from this: Flash of Death: Using three bars of his power gauge, Solace teleports to the center of the stage and creates a blinding flash of light. This light will deal a large number of hits and cannot be mana broken. The only reliable way to avoid the attack is to use a skill...
  8. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Just curious tho, what is super armor in Elsword translate to this wiki? is there a power to have unflinching body?
  9. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Could we give them High 6-A, possibly far higher? Yeah, if you want to be save go for that, Great El tier is not destruction feat so giving them High 3-A might be misleading since Great El only has shockwave range that cause minor destruction to other dimensions. Great El real destruction feat...
  10. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Excuse me? maybe it just auto correct messing with your sentence becuz i can't understand what you trying to say.
  11. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    But you can't hide the fact that Lord Knight is shown being absorbed according to artwork for Hall of El, Not Knight Emperor, even in stage you can see Lord Knight floating around in boss room at the center. And the fact that they only receives their 3rd jobs after restoring the Great El. It...
  12. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Oh i forgot, is not just range, Great El's destruction manage to tear apart their space a little as shown by both Henir's space time and Rose's dimension. In Henir, Ain fell in to Henir's gap thanks to explosion tearing apart the space for Ain to get thrown into. As for Rose's dimension...
  13. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Yes, i forgot it should be High 3-A since the Great El destruction can cause shockwave enough to reach Henir's space-time, Elysion's dimension, And Rose's Dimension that should be above 3D scale if i'm not mistaken, not destruction feat, but range. And Elsword has enough energy to restore the...
  14. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    I think Elsword as Knight Emperor should have the same weakness as Lord Knight because the fact that he still sacrifices himself for the sake of others by giving himself to the El. And you should add Resistance like mine, In Elsword, all kind of debuff like elemental debuff such as freeze...
  15. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    It's quite unclear how they feat fair aside from those 3 i mentioned. But it should be fair that everyone scale to elsword to atleast "Possibly" since no one mentioned everyone in party are weaker than Elsword.
  16. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Quite Lazy but i add Sakra Devanam skills for now, gonna continue it when i feel like it.
  17. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Damn, i forgot i had project with Ara in here. btw, isn't Elsword supposed to be 3-A as Knight Emperor due to Great El? And isn't everyone aside from Add (Mad Paradox), Aisha (Metamorph) and Ain (Herrchers) should scale with him right for being in the same party as him?
  18. Non-Elemental

    Annoying dog revision (part 2)

    Nah, i'm not as borish to call anyone idiot just for not knowing things. We are in discussion, not diss track contest.
  19. Non-Elemental

    Annoying dog revision (part 2)

    Chara is counted because he do it himself not by us outside of the game. He destroyed the game and that's a fact and canon within the story he indeed can do that and we saw it, its the same case as Monika from DDLC, we never took part on it, the character itself hacking the game not us. But AD...
  20. Non-Elemental

    Annoying dog revision (part 2)

    First of all, existing when everything are gone is not canon, idk why the hell we considered AD can do that when we can only see AD do those feats by tampering the files not from story. Is there any quest in the story for you to tamper your own files in the story? No, him existing in the Void...
  21. Non-Elemental

    Annoying dog revision (part 2)

    And did he states he view other as mere fiction? not it's not, being representative of Author's avatar can't guarantee such thing as shown by Scott's profile. And beside if you think you can just put Toby Fox in actual game because irl Toby fox view the characters he creates as fiction as much...
  22. Non-Elemental

    Annoying dog revision (part 2)

    And where does he states or anyone states Annoying dog views other as mere fiction? Because im sure as hell never saw such statement? if you think just being Avatar of Toby Fox mean he is basically view others as fiction then you're solely mistaken, Scott from Fnaf World is viewed as Avaatar of...
  23. Non-Elemental

    Annoying dog revision (part 2)

    The Creators aren't always stronger than creations, Take Asura for example, he can defeat his creator just fine thanks to his hax. Creator aren't always supreme being like above me said, Annoying dog lack any concrete evidence being superior to anyone and what he does is only creating reality...
  24. Non-Elemental

    How does his time stop ability work?

    It's already outright stated that Hadou Gods rewriting reality to their own desire thanks to their Kamunagara, idk how it doesn;t makes sense to you all. This is some explanation regarding Atziluth that can answer this discussion: Atziluth "The final and ultimate level of the Die Ewigkeit...
  25. Non-Elemental

    Annoying dog revision (part 2)

    This is what bother me about Annoying Dog: why him being exist when game is crashing allowed to be included but Player who hacks the game and confronted by Sans is not even allowed in one of the ending, they are both the same thing because you won't find both Annoying dog and Player do those...
  26. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    @zackmoon At least he could probably give Madoka some fight in 2A form, He is literally infinite Void it self in Elsword, both material (Real World and Demon World) has it's own space-time shown by Diabolic esper quotes while Henir also has it's own space-time as shown by Glave and it's...
  27. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread 2

    Just leaving my mark here :D
  28. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    Hey Guys, I add something new to Ara, also i use Debuff mechanic to add some resistance for her since she resist debuff and debuff in Elsword comes in many forms and not just statistic reduction. I want you guys input on this.
  29. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    Hey, quick question, shouldn't we add resistance to debuff effect in game such as burn, freeze, and poison in game for character that can resist debuff?
  30. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    I;m fine with new thread
  31. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    Here , This is my Ara's profile page, is not done yet but i just want you guys to see it and hopefully can add something in to it, i use Herrchers page as base so there's some similarity. Just ignore her power and abilities, i will add those later including the rest of missing sections.
  32. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    We can still add the classes. the novels are non-canon as well mostly. Especially that time when Add became a harem protagonist for some reason- But with classes we shouldn't really scale anyone to them. I don't see a problem adding their own category because the feats are still there even...
  33. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    I love to make profiles for some characters on my own, but i'm suck at creating sandbox like some of these peoples. I would love to learn though but i don't have time since i'm busy irl.
  34. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    Actually, it's aplicable for combat if Aisha is given prep time to dream about the future.
  35. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    Also, should we add Precognition to base form Aisha? Please click the link i provide for context
  36. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    due take a note that in Oz Sorcerer profile, we should add "likely higher" at the end of it because Angkor, the Demon God Aisha contracted with has not yet reach his/her? true form.
  37. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    Yes, but the creation of material world and demon world are still her doing and as such should still be 2-A since material world consist of infinite timelines as explained in Diabolic Esper quote.
  38. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    All Supreme Gods in Elsword such as Elria and Henir should scale with Herrchers because he feed with Henir's power and Elria is equal to him, So both of them should be 2-A likely higher. Ishmael didn't have any feat that can consider her higher than High 6A yet. so maybe tier 2 still not for...
  39. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    This should be enough, you just need to word it better. Should be like "Gain control over time and space in multiple Dimensions" because it's clealy says "Dimensions"
  40. Non-Elemental

    Elsword Discussion Thread

    It's from novel "Time Trouble" about Spin-off with Add (Time Tracer-Diabolic Esper) as protagonist, despite being Spin-Off they still literally use the same ability as canon one such as Stadust Shower, Paranoia, Fate Smash and many other skills You can find all the chapters here , it's already...
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