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  1. Xolon

    Properties of Hit's Invisible Ki Attack missing a detail

    Why would Goku's statement not be credible considering Goku was smart enough to deduce Black's other abilities like that he was using energy clones and that he was somewhere else when Goku's punches were going through him rather than Hit just having intangibility?
  2. Xolon

    Goku black vs hit

    Vegeta surpassed Black. And Black's rage boost after Vegeta surpassed him is unquantifiable so we don't even know if he closed that gap and became equal with post HTC training SSB Vegeta. On top of that both Goku and Vegeta got zenkais after that fight. Current SSB Goku should be above SSR Black...
  3. Xolon

    Goku's resistance to time stop

    Didn't Champa say time skip was stopping time and Vados pretty much tell him he was wrong with that interpretation in the latest episode?
  4. Xolon

    Massive Archie Sonic Downgrade

    I believe the concern about the zone Hyper Knuckles and Super Sonic destroyed most likely being a pocket dimension is extremely valid. The evidence in Ultra's blog seems to point towards it definitely being a pocket dimension. If its just a pocket dimension its size is unknown and its unlikely...
  5. Xolon

    Devil May Cry - Universe Level Mundus

    Is Kamiya even working with the DMC series anymore? If not than statements from him being considered WOG is a lot more shaky.
  6. Xolon

    Devil May Cry - Universe Level Mundus

    yup
  7. Xolon

    Devil May Cry - Universe Level Mundus

    Honestly on top of the fact that Kamiya could be just trolling with this because he doesn't really seem to give a shit about power level bullshit and VS fights evidenced by this https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/704128740398215168 . He could've also changed his mind which would make this an...
  8. Xolon

    Devil May Cry - Universe Level Mundus

    Eh. Does Mundus display anything close to universe level power in the source material? That should be what matters. Whatever statement a developer or writer makes after the fact is not part of the source material because of one simple concept that has been used in vs debates for a very long time...
  9. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Muso Tensei is intangibility. Punching him while he's using it in a timestop would have the same effect as punching him outside of it. Nothing.
  10. Xolon

    All Might and All For One Calc

    It looks like the post with the calc has been deleted
  11. Xolon

    The Official Calculation Requests Thread II

    To add to this http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/14356/TBD-093.0/compressed/t016.jpg . This may be the best feat yet and its a clash between All Might putting all of his remaining power into a strike against All For One boosting his arm to the maximum with every strength enhancing quirk at his...
  12. Xolon

    Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede and Waddle Dee vs Dragon Ball

    http://www.narutoforums.com/threads/kirby-vs-majin-buu.1074317/
  13. Xolon

    Dr. Manhattan in REBIRTH

    Considering the phrasing of "universes" in that scan he may have created or altered the entire DC multiverse.
  14. Xolon

    Legend of Zelda downgrades. Part 2.

    Xcano mentioned this "He did admit the calc was flawed in PMs, but he didn't make it, so I PMed Tacocat about it and they haven't replied yet." So I wouldn't say the OBD agrees with him. Not only because the OBD isn't one person but because someone from the OBD has admitted the Faron calc is flawed.
  15. Xolon

    Legend of Zelda downgrades. Part 2.

    And what if he never comes?
  16. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    I can agree with you on that. Someone else (a mod maybe) can review this thread to decide if Kenshiro's side won, Jotaro's side won or its inconclusive.
  17. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    You do understand these aren't normal people but Stand users right? They're just all below Kenshiro's durability but still durable enough to survive Punch flurries. It's consistent and not PIS at all. Just because it doesn't fit with your argument that does not make it PIS.
  18. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Or stands don't have the stamina necessary to punch as many times as you claim they can despite having the speed. Or the actual feats just don't match up with your claims. Claiming PIS just doesn't work here. Also. Killer Queen/Kira isn't the only one to tank a Stand barrage. Here are two more...
  19. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Kenshiro is more durable than Killer Queen/Kira. Killer Queen/Kira tanked a barrage. So Kenshiro can tank a barrage if not multiple barrages and just use Muso Tensei. This is where the train of logic leads and the destination is unavoidable.
  20. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Doesn't make them casual. Casual means without effort. For it to be without effort he wouldn't need to fully extend his arm and you wouldn't see blur lines indicating he's trying to make the punch as fast as possible.
  21. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    SP had to put his all into those punches though. It is unknown if he can put the same kind of effort into each punch in a flurry of punches that he can a single focused punch. "We never change people's durability due to tanking x amount of y's punches" so are you trying to argue Killer Bee/Kira...
  22. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Nothing about those punches looked casual. Za Warudo was casually dodging them and got scratches. But Star Platinum looked to be putting his all into them.
  23. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    D180 has presented evidence of someone less durable than Kenshiro tanking "repeated punches in the millions". If someone's attack is below your level of durability you can tank it. That is what Kenshiro will do here.
  24. Xolon

    Legend of Zelda downgrades. Part 2.

    Claiming you've addressed stuff already and that you've reached the point of argument repetition to try to discredit arguments your opponent has made is unjust IMO. If he had tried to ignore arguments you made because he believed they had been addressed would that be right? This isn't a black...
  25. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Kenshiro and Star Platinum can't damage Kenshiro then. a MCB punch is still just MCB no matter the amount. You can't force us to accept anything.
  26. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    "not much weaker." That difference is still enough to the point Kenshiro can tank his and Star Platinum's punches. The jump from Multi-city block to town level is still a jump. And it's not like Kenshiro is only low town level either.
  27. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    What does chip damage mean here exactly? I looked it up and its a fighting game term for doing damage through blocking. I don't see how that'll help Star Platinum damage Kenshiro with attacks below his level of durability.
  28. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    I'm thinking of changing my vote from inconclusive to Kenshiro. I hadn't thought about how much the opposition's side relied on damage stacking til now. And with time stop not really doing damage stacking AMM's arguments have no ground to stand on.
  29. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Even with MFTL speed that does not remove the limitation of stamina completely. For billions of punches to be proven other stamina feats on that level would need to be shown.
  30. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Damage stacking is a shaky concept tbh. Even with timestop. A MCB+ Jojo characters has never shown a town level or higher feat through damage accumulation. And timestop doesn't seem to massively boost the damage done from a flurry either. If it was felt as one single much more powerful attack...
  31. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Or each punch wouldn't phase him as it's below his durability (town level). And regardless we disagree with you about the "billions" part very much.
  32. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    I already brought evidence. A thread where the exact thing you're proposing (billion+ punches in single seconds) was rejected. And it's an OBD thread no less. You can call it incredulity all you like but the OBD is a site that is very well respected for their vs knowledge and large amount of...
  33. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    non stop =/= 6 billion in a row
  34. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    That stamina feat is not enough to support billions of punches in a second. No stamina feat in the Jojo series is that high to my knowledge.
  35. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    billion punches in a single second claims were debunked both due to the stamina and the punching technique. As punching isn't just pulling your arm backwards and forward. It requires a specific motion that takes more time than most calcs account for.
  36. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    As evidence I'd link to link an OBD thread here for where timestop damage stacking was debunked as it couldn't be proven that Jotaro, Dio or their stands could punch billions of times in a single second like a lot of fan calcs claim http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=1051082&page=13
  37. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    I think Berial was trying to say that the feats don't match up with the calc people are using here. Star Platinum has never shown a quantity of punches that large within a single second and nothing alludes to it. That's a lot different than wanting to throw out all calcs which is what you seem...
  38. Xolon

    Jotaro vs Kenshiro

    Yeah. I'll second this.
  39. Xolon

    Legend of Zelda downgrades. Part 2.

    A complete triforce supporting a world doesn't prove that it passively boosts whoever has it. From what we've seen they have to make a wish to make use of it.
  40. Xolon

    A request to stop DBS vs threads

    Are powerscaling feats included in quantifiable feats?
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