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  1. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    https://iwakuraproductions.wordpress.com/2020/03/30/fate-extra-ccc-update-from-the-head-translator/
  2. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    Considering not a single solitary god from proper human history had what it takes to put down Sefar (which is what caused them to degrade into divine spirits in the first place), whereas LB Zeus was able to after incorporating the authorities of the other Olympians, at least most of which he...
  3. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    Sounds like Chaos>Goetia>Zeus to me, if that's true. Doesn't make sense to me to treat AAS as separate from Goetia's power when the charge accumulates outside of time and his status as a beast is premised on the incineration of humanity to begin with.
  4. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    I'm guessing he'll have more than one moveset since he attacks using the wings in stage 3. EDIT: Indeed he does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMvlGuTpd8
  5. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    The fact that AAS was the point of comparison they chose to explain Chaos' strength when they just defeated Zeus makes Goetia sound stronger than Zeus, tbh.
  6. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    Unrelated, U-Olga Marie looks like a Christmas servant and I find it impossible to take her seriously.
  7. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    Thank you. It seems my original conundrum stands. Either someone's confused about Zeus being the strongest enemy they'd faced, or Caenis is full of crap.
  8. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    Thanks, sure thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXT6HihCWIQ&t=10m25s
  9. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    @SleepyTBubble Actually, if you can read Japanese, would you mind checking that line in Lostbelt 1 chapter 12 for me? If it's not too much trouble. I just wanna know what the word is that's being translated "demiurge" in NA and "chief deity" by taiboo, and which, if either, is accurate (since...
  10. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    Atalante's statement isn't the problem (for all the reasons you mention); Caenis' is: https://imgur.com/a/lHWMi9y EDIT: Wait, I'm dumb. Zeus isn't the Greek demiurge. That said, the Greek pantheon has several primordial deities, not one demiurge, so now I just have no idea what she's talking...
  11. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 30

    Lol, what happened to Goetia>>>Ivan>Zeus? Gonna have to see a line-by-line translation of this one before jumping to any conclusions.
  12. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Does anyone remember if there was anything in Extella or in Extella Link clearly suggesting that top servants get some kind of power boost from the Moon Cell? Gawain says that they are "no ordinary servants", but rather "high-level ("top" in the Japanese) servants" whose "existence is truly...
  13. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    I've read that entire thread, and that summary really doesn't do the disagreement justice. No one (as far as I recall) was arguing that "destroying the world" was just "flowery language"; they were pointing out that in the Nasuverse, "world" has multiple literal meanings, such that...
  14. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    @Monarch You beat me to it, so instead I'll share my friend's take on this artistic masterwork: "How different would Heaven's Feel have been if Rin lost her legs and arms, and so Archer chose to give her his. Then THIS thing won the grail war."
  15. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    The monster's origin, for the curious: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/df6k64/oh_so_this_they_meant_with_archer_tohsaka/
  16. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Discuss.
  17. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Uh, the Jesuits are a Catholic order founded by Spaniards. <_<
  18. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Okay, I laughed.
  19. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    If something isn't potent enough to harm you at all, it doesn't matter how long you're exposed to it. But that doesn't mean that it couldn't harm you at higher doses. I see no reason to think that the "dose" Gilgamesh gets in Extella is the same, since he seems to imply he's being attacked by...
  20. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Is there a time limit to how long you can breathe the oxygen in the air before it poisons you? Yet if I were to increase the partial pressure of the oxygen by enough, you'd be dead pretty quickly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity
  21. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    So after taking another look at this scene, I'm not sure the discrepancy everyone's seeing is really there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the corrupting influence of the Far Side, as seen in CCC, is just an undirected environmental hazard, an effect of the malicious information stored there...
  22. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    You know, even if they don't meet the bar set by by Gilgamesh, it's still pretty funny that the Moon Cell would let people summon extremely powerful servants with authorities it can't override. Silly Moon Cell.
  23. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Yeah. I didn't bring up Jinako, because I can't recall whether the Moon Cell plays a "hands-on" role in determining which servants are pairable with which masters, and if she were the only problem, he'd still be a spanner in the works as long as it was possible for him to be summoned by someone...
  24. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Narratively, he's the Gil from CCC, but point taken if what you mean is just that it's not the same interpretation of the character. I'd need to look into it more closely to be sure if I agree with the point, but point taken. Another possible explanation that occurred to me between responses is...
  25. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    He's "rehabilitated" over the course of the game, though, right? As a consequence, his parameters as of Extella are equal to his parameters with Tokiomi as a master (B/B/B/A/A/EX). Yet in Extella, Iskandar says that Karna is "just as strong as our Goldie", and Karna assesses his odds against...
  26. SS2V

    Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

    Could someone more familiar with CCC explain to me how the Moon Cell's rationale for sealing Gilgamesh ("the winner would have been decided from the beginning") is supposed to square with the fact that Karna, someone repeatedly cast as his near-equal, was allowed to participate in the HGW? Did...
  27. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    For whatever it's worth, I think that "unknown speed" is correct, but don't see the value of adding that. Like, why even bring up an attack's speed on a profile just to tell people that we don't know what it is? Not that it harms anything, but I just don't think it matters.
  28. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    Again, insofar as the objects concerned occupy 4D spacetime, moving the object through time is moving it through space. So unless you're suggesting that the shot doesn't time travel, and is actually extremely slow (taking thousands of years to reach its modern target from ancient Venus), we know...
  29. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    With respect to A: What vibrations? The cutscene you referenced neither mentions nor depicts any such thing. With respect to B: Exhibit A Exhibit B Exhibit C Exhibit D Exhibit E ("As she said that, Archer of Red repeatedly shot a strafing of arrows. Her arrows, fired at the same speed as...
  30. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    A couple of points in response. First, that's only inconsistent with 1. It's not necessarily inconsistent with 2. For all we know, Romani isn't even reacting to the arrow's approach, but to the NP's activation (which he knows is aimed at the ziggurat's base). Second, Ishtar's NP has an AoE...
  31. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    What you're not mentioning is that the scene cuts away from Ishtar preparing to use her NP and glowing, and in that scene there are clouds behind her, such that one of two things is true: 1) the glow represents Ishtar unleashing the attack, in which case, she fired it from a point within...
  32. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    Reminder that the notion of temporally shifting without spacially shifting is unintelligible in 4D space.
  33. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    In response to the idea (to be clear, not his idea) that she may have warped the shot to the location of modern Venus, it's odd in that case that it would visibly appear to be warping "into the modern era's airspace through the utilization of displacement magic". His idea that this appearance...
  34. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    Rather, he seems to me to be suggesting that the arrow may somehow be temporally shifting without spacially shifting (and that this would somehow justify MFTL attack speed), which I find unintelligible.
  35. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    Yeah. The problem is that that doesn't justify a MFTL rating at all. Quite the opposite, since we know that it's fired from Venus "during the time of the age of mythology", and that it reaches its its target "in the modern era"; if it isn't warping it's moving extremely slowly.
  36. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    The fact that an object's spatial coordinates don't visibly shift relative to the objects in its surroundings doesn't necessarily mean that they don't actually shift. It sounds like you're confusing change in spacial coordinates with change in the relative positions of objects i space. This is...
  37. SS2V

    Ishtar NP speed revision

    Isn't Nasuverse space-time real and not merely diagrammatic? In that case, transporting an object to a different point in time just is transporting it to a different point in space. The only way there's no spacial shifting is if there's no temporal shifting either -- but in that case, Ishtar's...
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