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I don't understand this retroactive thing you're talking about. The Flashes were unchanged after Crisis, Wally just became weaker due to his mental barrier which he overcame. Either way, Pre-Crisis Barry and Wally have enough good speed feats on their own, just little to no impressive AP feats.
Definitely not an outlier, especially considering his source of power. At the end of the story he overloaded Cobalt Blue with infinite energy by channelling the Speed Force into him. I have plenty of speed feats for Pre-Crisis Barry Allen but he just doesn't have many good attack potency feats...
Definitely, the Pre-Crisis characters' strongest attacks were doing nothing to him until Wally amped them with some Speed Force, he was still moving so fast that he was invisible to them. Even in the original story Pre-Crisis Superman's strongest attacks did nothing to him and he's been able to...
Superman changed (as in Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis Superman are two different versions of the same character), Green Lanterns and the Flashes didn't, they just got weaker. Especially Wally who was already suffering from metabolism problems in Crisis but then his mental barrier turned him...
No, a time travelling Wally IMPd a version of Eobard that belonged to the Pre-Crisis continuity. It's the punch in The Flash (1987) Issue #148, the one that is famously calced to solar system level, the version of Eobard that got punched was technically Pre-Crisis which is why he confused Wally...
Harming Reverse Flash could be scaled since he was the one that Wally IMPd. RF has also knocked out Power Ring who should basically be equal to GL, and he goes blow for blow with Barry. My friend made an extensive thread on him...
In terms of actual punching feats the one that comes to mind is him punching Eobard back to the 25th century in what's called the mightiest punch of all time, it's from Issue #153 of The Flash (1959) series.
Well since speedsters don't have that many attack potency feats I usually derive it from their speed since that's where they get power from, but I know that's not accepted here. I think it should be, but I can't change the rules.
The profiles for the Flashes in general aren't the best but something I noticed specifically for the profile of Post-Crisis Barry Allen was the usage of Pre-Crisis feats mainly under his powers and abilities, so much so that it might as well be a Pre-Crisis profile. I've seen many discussions...
Well the eruption of Mount Vesuvius released 100,000 times the thermal energy that the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs did combined which would be 35 kiltons of TNT multiplied by 100,000 or 3.5 gigatons of TNT which is High 7-A Large Mountain level.
It was stated to be a continent by Lex in Superman: Returns, it was made of kryptonite and growing and raising a continent to the height that he did would require lunar levels of energy. Originally, only Superman I and II were canon to Superman: Returns but Clark canonised Superman III by saying...
This is the Flash, speed is his thing, he generates power through speed. We don't have to worry about any type of busting going on when the Speed Force exists. I'm still for it.
They're speed is calculable as the race was 100 laps around the Earth. Even at 1/7 the speed of light that race would be over in less than 2 minutes but it took a good amount of time so it really isn't close to hypersonic.
So I'm tryna make a video calculating this feat but is it possible? Is Scarlet Witch destroying the Mind Stone quantifiable since each Infinity Stone is said to contain a singularity? Any ideas on how to calculate such a feat?
The calculation isn't complete, the value would and should be lower because of the distance that Supergirl was away from Overgirl, the energy of the explosion would expand in accordance with the inverse sqaure law. I don't even know if the method used for the calc is reliable since Overgirl...
No, it's as simple as if they're not causing harm to themselves while running then they won't be causing harm to anyone else that their carrying while running. That doesn't mean KE is not being generated, that's just a big jump. Imo, KE is underused in this wiki at times and should be used more...
The fact that speedsters from any universes rarely leave any damage in their wake when moving at high speeds. DC have gone and given a working explanation for that for their speedsters whereas others tend to just leave it out. Take Quicksilver from Marvel for example, as far as speed goes he's...
100% disagree, that's honestly a terrible reason to reject KE. Most speedsters tend to have some sort of aura that would protect them and anything they're in contact with from these high KEs, even if it's not explicitly stated: the most obvious example being the Flash.
Attack Potency should be at least moon level, even if you don't wanna use MFTL+ speed for attack potency, cracking the Earth in half should be small planetary and his speed feats would just support that.
You can make the same argument for the speed formula, s/t is just a simplified version of it. I just find it slightly hypocritical to allow FTL speeds but then not being allowed to use those speeds to calculate KE when the mass is clearly fixed. Special relativity above light speed would say...
Yeah cool, I don't agree with it being disallowed. Hopefully the rule gets changed some day. Physics breaks down beyond light speed and there's a cosmic speed limit, there is no limit to energy as at light speed any non-rest mass object would have infinite energy. I think it's just like saying...
Calculating speed is just a factor of D/T, which allows for FTL stuff. On the other hand KE relies specifically on following real life KE laws. It shouldn't be used to get AP, even if it makes thematic sense in this case.
Yes and KE is just a factor of 0.5m(s/t)^2, if mass isn't changing and...
You aren't allowed to get KE from FTL feats on this site. As they break that particular set of physics and therefore the formula.
Cracking the Earth in half takes 1/3 of the GBE
You have a link to such a calc?
Yeah I know it's not allowed on this site but imo it should be, assuming regular...
200 quintillion tons is actually 3% of the Earth's mass and 2.5x the mass of the moon. He managed to extend his arm with that weight, I've done the calculations and under normal Earth gravity that woul equate to Large Country levels of potential energy. All of his feats are Post-Amp btw. 8 times...
Whoever added that All-Star Superman > Regular Superman doesn't know wtf they're talking about, dude got cancer from flying too close to the Sun, that would just make regular Supes more powerful not give him cancer. Like come on guys, and the feats don't even compare, Post-Crisis Superman walks...