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  1. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    I've already left my counter argument for DDM. I've directly linked the contradictions and laid them out for you to see. You still seem to think that these characters are harmed in gameplay whilst the cutscenes show they are not. Contradiction. The cutscene is treated as more accurate than...
  2. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    That isn't what DDM has said, mostly just Bambu. Hes arguing on the basis of the websites standards of what week but hasn't linked anything to back it up. That and ignorance.
  3. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    My argument isn't that Bambu is an idiot or anything, in fact far from it. It's just me throwing my observation out there. My actual arguments are lengthier and much more in-depth. I don't rely on someone's stupidity to prove my point. Im still waiting on an actual counter argument, my points...
  4. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    More repeating yourself. As suspected. Harming giant mechs in gameplay barehanded, check. In the cutscenes? Said giant mech is impervious to your rockets and gunfire for the most part. Blatant contradiction. The standard is to follow cutscenes. You even agreed earlier in this thread but...
  5. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    Yes and no, but I've explained it you twice now and you keep repeating your point like you're handicapped. The gameplay doesn't scale because aspects of it (you being able to do harm certain characters bare handed, being able to tank continuous gunfire, etc) are contradicted in cutscenes - as...
  6. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    No, but most games that keep consistency between gameplay and cutscenes tend to show your character as damaged/exhausted regardless of the amount of damage you took. So yes, it does. The fact still remains that characters can perform feats and tank absurd attacks in gameplay that they are quite...
  7. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    Except it does. If you get shot during the boss fight, and the cutscene rolls around with you being entirely unharmed, that means that as far as lore is concerned, you took no damage. It doesn't happen often in many games because most developers tend to show that your character is...
  8. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    @DDM 1. Right, but just because he said it doesn't make it true. I've literally listed a couple very good reasons and explanations for 10 megavolts not to be true. Volgin saying it and therefore it must be true is bad logic. 2. I know he traded blows with Gray Fox, but it was implied that Gray...
  9. HierophantDeluxe

    About FTL scaling in jojo

    > has no feats >> calc of him being ftl exists > can't deflect every single mftl knife out of dozens >> must not be ftl topkek lets disregard the other ftl feats and statements
  10. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    1. I don't think the games have anything to say on him being crafted in the art of "electrical science". The explanation for his abilities is based on psychic manipulation moreso than anything biological or biomechanical. I think you need more proof that he would know how many volts are in a...
  11. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    It's contradicted many times, as I said in my first post. I will give you an example rather than argue. Here we have Naked Snake vs Ocelot. Both are armed with handguns. Oh look at that, Snake puts a round into his head and you can visibly see blood spurt out. Ocelot keeps on keeping on. Cool...
  12. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    1. Volgin? A scientific genius? Based on what? Politically gifted and knowledgeable about weapons design and physics absolutely, but scientific genius? That's a huge stretch. What has he done that makes him a scientific genius? And let's not quickly forget that IQ =/= expertise or knowledge in...
  13. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    I mean... that IS what torture is and involves. (If you don't know the details of what happened, the relevant info is in the calc which is in the OP) Him telling Snake about the strength of electricity before he begins torturing him with it is a means of creating anticipation and is nothing out...
  14. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    No, the game doesn't state it. An egotistical character in the game says it as a form of intimidation and psychological manipulation. Just because he said it doesn't mean the statement is a truth. Is this a new thing for you? Have you played the metal gear games? Just a question.
  15. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    Yes, I agree that our calc that determines how much damage his electricity would do if it were using 10 megavolts. I don't think that he possesses the ability to use 10 megavolts based off our real world logic and reasoning - something that the Metal Gear series strives so often to recreate in...
  16. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    I'm very excited that someone finally decided to take a look lol. @DDM 1. When you talk about Volgin's 10 megavolt lore statement are you referring to WOG? I'm aware Volgin himself said it, but I have a lot of doubts about its validity, particularly when it comes to how you actually begin to...
  17. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    Bump.
  18. HierophantDeluxe

    Giorno new add on

    so quirky
  19. HierophantDeluxe

    Steven vs. Fugo

    You aren't allowed to just give people the ability to see stands in an official matchup.
  20. HierophantDeluxe

    Giorno new add on

    Adaptability doesn't necessarily mean the ability to adapt to everything, just that you can adjust to some new condition. The ability doesn't (usually) encompass every single change and adjustment possible, so calling something adaptable doesn't mean it can adjust as such.
  21. HierophantDeluxe

    About FTL scaling in jojo

    Dodging UV light + sunlight, a FTL calc, a couple FTL statements... hmm yeah jojo stands are slow as shit
  22. HierophantDeluxe

    DIO vs Alucard | Hax Battle

    If this is bloodlusted than Alucard and his TK take this pretty easily. Stopping time is also not instantaneous, there's a brief period of slowdown half a second before it stops. This was shown when Star Platinum hit that buzzer beater before he smashed his skull in. Even if he were to stop...
  23. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    I didn't use it as an excuse you egg. I am aware of the tone of my messages.
  24. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    Downgrade bump.
  25. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    Sometimes I get bored and just point out obvious errors in logic only for him to defend it vehemently.
  26. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    I thought I made it clear that I was waiting for your CRT? There's no point in shutting you down here where your head is too far up your own butt. At least in a proper CRT there is a voting process where I can get others to disagree and finally end your nonsense. Here? Nobody cares that much...
  27. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    I'm skimming through your poorly formatted and unnecessarily wordy arguments and you don't have any good rebuttals. I will say that Koichi "hearing how fast he was" from a guy who idolizes Jotaro is head-canon, and not a good source. The rest of what you have to say is more blatant lies.
  28. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    Yeah so more of you just crying over the standards: Crazy Diamond got sent flying through at least five shipping containers. That's a sweep. Josuke failed to react to a suckerpunch from Jotaro. Big woop. Koichi doesn't know how fast Star Platinum is at that point? He's never seen his stand in...
  29. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    never, chariot190 thinks that a sucker punch means you blitzed someone. I can't find an accepted 60ton SHA calculation. Probably hasn't been accepted.
  30. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    More wank and twisting words. Feats > Statements, understand this. If a character is shown at a specific strength we hold that evidence higher than a statement of strength in relation to others. In this case we can see that SP and CD are just about equal in terms of strength. Star Platinum...
  31. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    Yes but the statement can stem from a place of insecurity on Josuke's part (especially since he's demonstrated he's not that knowledgeable on how fast his stand can move). But taking the statement as true doesn't mean SP must be magnitudes above CD. If they can throw hands with one another and...
  32. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    Bump
  33. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    Your argument amounts to: "star platinum is the strongest no matter what" ... even though he curbstomped Crazy Diamond. The scaling of [Star Platinum > 8-B RHCP > Crazy Diamond] does not make sense because the very start of the series establishes [Star Platinum = Crazy Diamond], and the two are...
  34. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    Just an FYI the only time RHCP is 8-B is with Morioh's entire power grid. Crazy Diamond punching his face in is before he absorbs it, not after. Once he does he casually wipes the floor with Josuke and looks strong enough to quite literally wipe and smear the floor with him. Star Platinum...
  35. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    nope thats now how things work ill just muddy it up
  36. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    I'll add to Chariot's CRT whenever he creates it. It would be redundant for me to create another thread on the same topic. I literally read half a sentence of Chariot's giant ass paragraphs before I write my own comment and close my tab. He's losing sleep over this but I'm just waiting till he...
  37. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    I never said you weren't allowed to talk about upgrades (maybe your incomprehension miscontrued my argument), my point was and has been that you've been discussing this in a massive week-long circlejerk with too much hesitation to start creating a CRT. The scale of this is not comparable to...
  38. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    bro ive never seen a person argue about a tier so hard for so long... only to not want to make a CRT about it the vsbattles equivalent of talking shit but not squaring up
  39. HierophantDeluxe

    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure General Discussion Thread III: Stardust Crusaders

    I already made it clear I'm saving my energy for an actual CRT and not off-topic opinion threads. You've had a week and you still haven't began to make a thread. Your belief is currently not supported by this site. Naturally you won't have much of an argument in a real CRT, but feel free to...
  40. HierophantDeluxe

    Metal Gear: Feats re-examined and tiers re-evaluated / Big Boss and Solid Snake

    Bump.
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