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Where did you get that ruling from? As far as I know she is limited from giving skill like armor of fafnir and similiar. But not by any other rule.
And the thing is. As speed is equal , it doesnt even matter. Coatl had no trouble dodging Kingus chains mid air and was able to meele him. Which is...
Ah so it was only that she was the perfect counter like Emiya was to Gilgamesh and she needed support + she dies afterwards ?
That makes it far less impressive. It's like saying Suzuka Gozen should get a power up on the list because she can one time go to moon cell Level power wise before...
The problem is with musashi, as good as it sounds on paper. It seems to be quite limited.
Or why else didn't she us it against Ivan? She knew she has no time anymore, she had one attack left. Why not use it to one shot him and leave a easy clean up for the gudao?
Also still waiting for Nobu...
Hmm Its hard to argue against Dante. Specially since we dont know if Avenger Nobu RM includes her old effects.
The only thing I would add would be Nobu opening with her RM
Demon King of the Sixth Heaven Papiyas which would give her with Tenken double adventage and ,, absolute power ´´...
Depends, Base Nobu survived Okitas NP if Iam not wrong? Can Dante one shot Nobu before she starts using any NP?
Also Avenger Nobu on this site has durability Multiverse as she seem to have tanked attacks with infinite energy.
And even if only Dante ( Which I doubt as Dante lacks the attack...
Just thought about it a little more. And in my opinion Maou Nobu got dismissed a little to early.
Maou nobus stomps everyone who is divine no questions ask
Has massive adventage against everyone who has a mystery surrounding them
Can fly on her guns around. Not sure if Jet speed as she was...
I can change it, however does it make any difference ? As far as I know Caster Sieg is just a avatar made by Sieg and not a real servant. ( actually thought the link always leads to the first version of a character )
Who would win without their servants to save them?
Sieg https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sieg_(Fate/Apocrypha)
Emiya https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Shirou_Emiya
,,When summoned in his more limited form in Chaldea, Berserker presumably cannot utilize his Authorities without heavily straining and harming himself, and in this form he only has access to Shiva's authority."
It's what is written in his profile, also a servant with authority is not seen...
1. He can use it as much as Suzuka can use her Moom Cell Level powers. Yes one time thing and afterwards they are screwed. It's like saying Jeanna is number one because she has a 100% one shot Np which she can use once
2. Same thing if we are honest. Just because someone has a ability doesn't...
1. His Profil States he can't use authority without hurting himself, so it seems to not matter which. But as servant he only has this one authority
2. Just as I understood it. Servant versions can only use servant feats
1. It's mentiond on his Profil on this Site
2. Anti evil is also mentiond on this site and his Bond Level as authority. ( I sadly don't speak moon runes)
3. Because same argument was used against my Coatl claim for good gods wisdom. Just because someone has it doesn't mean he uses it.
As the...
Still it's mentioned he harms himself heavily by using it and it strains him.
Suzuka can also just go all god mode but has to heavy draw backs from it, else she would probably stomp all on the list.
Yeah even if EX is so far greater, we would need to see him actually use it in combat. Just the...
Anti Evil is a authority tho. Which he can't use as servant or only really limited.
And Clairvoyance alone isn't enough to be dominating. Even Fionn has B and Arash A and they are far from being on the list
His kit is just that strong, if he have feats, i believe he will be equal if not stronger than Gilgamesh.
Kit doesn't really matter , does it? See the Coatl discussion as she has with example good gods wisdom the by far strongest kit, but aslong as it isn't shown to be used / as good as in...
Are really saying Gilgamesh shields just stop a NP which put a beast down to it knees , burned a area bigger then Uruk and has the temperature of the sun?
Well let's play this game. Has Gil any weapon as strong as multiply H-Bombs. Because Coatl seems to not even care about standing infront of...
Your arguments are basically just saying he does things without a proof / he acts OOC or you say the feats of Coatl don't count because reasons like AnImE.
You also said Siegfried killing Karna through armor doesn't count in the novel, but Gilgamesh destroying the world 7 times does, because...
I don't see any point arguing with Lancelot anymore as it seem to not matter. Gil is for him the ultra super awesome character and I accept that.
But back to what you said, I don't see Coatl defeat them with a high win rate aslong as she isn't allowed to use Good god wisdom. However we talked...
iam confused by now. So we are not to take quotes litteraly from the books for face value , only if they benefit Gil
We don't use anime examples , only if they benefit gil
Can we now decide for one ?
Also again, just because he doesn't have to use the name, doesn't mean he can use it when...
I will rest my case with :
1. Her Authority allowes her even as servant to have advantage against Good alignment servants
2. She has shown to be able to handle weapon spam / chains even mid air
3. She has a meele and a range NP which both will defeat Gilgamesh once used
4. It's unlikely that...
She litteraly attacks two seconds after dodging them?
Also if we go by the mats Iam pretty sure she didnt even took Kingu serious as her voice didnt change as it is mentiond in the mats when she has someone she wants to defeat.
We see it against Tiamat and in her interlude that once she gets...
So he uses it against a BEAST. Thats not really the best example buddy.
Also we saw her not having trouble to avoide such chains. You cant just assume she get hit and he pulls EA. When she has the feat of dodging them or using them to get a direct hit off
Again that's not what the novel said. We can't take one novel litteraly and not the other. Decide for one way don't use both.
Also IC Gil goes world destruction ( if it even exists) or is it more likely that he is slow and full of himself while getting smacked by a goddes which actually fights...
Emiya litteraly block it And is almsot unharmed in kayleid. But probably emiya is just stronger then the world ?
I would like the Japanese quote for it destroying the world. As such doesn't exist in fate , as anti world only affects the layer.
Again what is this , it would have destroyed the...