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Well, seithr exist outside logic due to it being outside the fundementals of the world so 'wieldind seithr' is equal to 'wielding something that exist outside logic'. That's why the Black Beast, a creature made out of seithr, and its fragments can deal wounds that cannot be healed through...
Even the healing magic (µ▓╗þÖÆÚ¡öµ│ò, chiyu mahō) very painfully heals these wounds. The healing magic can be used only by people that are able to control the flow of life, and it cannot heal wounds dealt by something outside of reason, with exepction of magic. -Blazblue wiki.
Basically its...
Can we remove 'Darkness manipulation' for Ragna and the Black Beast? What they are manipulating isn't darkness but seithr. Seithr is usually invinsible but in large quataties it will look like a mass of darkness but seithr and darkness have been comfirmed to be two seperate things.
Rachel and Valkenhyne could resist Phenomenon intervention to some extent as Rachel was suprised to see the Phenomenon Intervention was starting to effect Valkenhyne in CP when Ameteratsu got closer. She herself has a stronger resistance due to her role as an observer and she was stated to have...
Oh I just remembered but it was stated if Rachel summoned Tsukuyomi at full power it can block out Ameteratsu's phenomenon intervention. Should that be added too? I'd try to find where it ws stated but right now my internet is so weak it's hard to watch a 5 minute video.
Yah, and end game Ragna should be granted casuality manipulation too right? Speaking of which, what about the whole Drive injuries cannot be healed by magic part? Anyone has an opinion about that?
Also, not related to Phenomenon intervention but feel like needed to bring up. In the wiki it stated that healing magic cannot heal wounds caused from things that exists outside logic with the exception of wounds caused by magic. It has even been shown to be the case in the Phase Shift novel...
Shouldn't The Black Beast and Tsubaki also get this? Izayoi was created specificly to countr observers with this ability and Black Beast was created in the Prime Field war in order to counter Ameteratsu. It was even stated that the Black Beast was created with the power to oppose Ameteratsu who...
Yeah, besides, unlike the rest they had to make the RWBY character sprites from scratch thus it was more costly, additionally with mechanics, updating the other sprites to match Blazblue's and what do you get? Basically while the game is expensive (on my standard) they do have a good reason, I...
Rachel only has magic, not sorcery.
Basicly, characters like Black Beast and Nine can inflict damage that cannot be healed using magic (mana, life energy, etc) as well as conventional means.
Rachel and Nine can inflict soul scarring so soul manipulation for them. Nine was able to use Requiem...
Also the feat with the Blacbeast should also be acknowledge within Nine since healing magic (which uses mana) cannot heal damage inflicted by sorcery (which uses seithr). Nine can use both magic and sorcery
Shouldnt that be counted as soul manipulation? I mean Ragna did the same thing before when he was using Soul Eater to steal the part of peoples memories which contained their dream. In Blazblue, the Soul contains the data, record and memory of a person and that was how he stole peoples dreams...
Hey, while we're on that there is something else I want to add. In CP when Jubei attacked the fragment and was beaten Celica tried to heal him with her magic but she couldn't and when I checked the wiki healing magic cannot heal damage dealt by sorcery, that utilises seither. Magic uses mana so...
I was wondering about this for some time but shouldnt the Blazblue characters such as Hazama, Ragna and Noel be given immortality type 8: Reliant immortality? Because its stated that Ragna and Nu cant die without the other one dying with them and so long as one of them is still alive the other...
Dude, Terumi in Susano'o had soul resistant and got his soul ripped out and Hakumen has nigh immunity to it but Ragna's soul eater can still effect it. I think its safe to say BB's soul hax is high enough to make Jubelius soul resistant little to no problem... but thats my opinion.
So, what now? Is everyone going to be downgraded or is Black Beast going to be upgraded? From the cutscene I read Terumi saying he will 'surpass' the Black Beast but he didnt say anything about having the ability to kill it. Wouldnt this mean that Susanoo would only be stronger than BB after a...
Yeah, the Black Beast is difficult to kill, not even Hakumen who cab kill immortals could kill the Black Beast though what I dont get is why the Black Beast is equal to Jin. I mean in incomplete form BB killed Jin from colleteral damage alone, not even directly attacking him. Also if the reason...
Are you sure? If that was the case than why was Rachel suprised that Hazama could activate Blazblue without Terumi inside him? She clearly stated that Hazama shouldnt be able to do it.
There's something else. Im preaty sure Hazama also grows stronger when feeding on negativety towards him. Before he fought Ragna he told him about him torturing Saya which makes him angry and hate Hazama who latter states that he now understands how Terumi can get stronger from hatred, then he...
No idea, Jubei was able to pull him out too so... we should change that and also does anyone else agree that Hazama was the guy eating memories and not Terumi?
Also, I read somewhere that Take fought a fragment of the Black Beast. Just a fragment, not its entire body and yet even after tanking multiple direct hits from Take before getting close and personal it still won so should this also be mentioned? I think the ability to create fragments with...
I thought someone said the Black Beast and Kusinagi are immune to phenomenon intervention as well as both having the ability to kill immortals yet I'm not seeing those changes in its page. Also shouldnt we add immortality to Black Beast as long it has a heart? Seeing that even Hakumen couldnt...
Actually he said he will create diffrent timelines and kill nine in the past after he claimed the Azure Flame Grimmore so no, it doesnt make him 2-C since he never got it.
Also belive it or not even though Yuuki Terumi is not wielding the Susano'o it is belived that he can still draw power from it. Its believed that either it was a side effect from wielding the Susanoo before or it was because terumi was the original wielder and has it ever crossed anyones mind...
Sorry but after reading this thread I had a thought. From what I understand Mind Eater is a cuse that makes people follow orders like when Nine placed it on Terumi during the Dark war and when Tsubaki was cursed with it. It has never shown that it wipes peoples memories. Not just that Terumi has...
Even Jin with his body at its limit could still trade blows with Susanoo. And its revealed that the only reason Kagura won was because Azrael did not know martial arts and was acknowledged to be physicly stronger than him but due to his fighting style resembling, as Kagura puts it, 'A kid...
I think it is possible to actuall consider Azrael to be somewhere around Hakumen's level. Ragna stated that Susanoo is stronger than Azrael so his weaker than 100% Hakumen but should be able to still put up a good fight in my opinion.
Umm, Im just gonna point this out but the fact CP Base Ragna is stronger than CT Blazblue Ragna is actually possible. You see in CT Ragna base was getting owned by 20% Hakumen and had to activate Blazblue to keep up with 20% Hakumen and beat him, barely. Now, lets look at CP. Ragna fights with...
Really? Hmm, I've got ya watch that cause I haven't seen any of the sub-scenario so sorry. This might sound a bit off topic but does anyone have any idea how Hakumen's time killer will effect BB with heart or is it possible that since BB is immune to Ameteratsu phenomenon intervention time...
I think the power of the Black Beast is undetermined now. Rachel stated Izanami is as strong, if not stronger, than the Black Beast so ok sge can keep up if not beat BB but then she said that 'even Hakumen at full power will have difficulty beating her' so she is stating full power Hakumen is...