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Yeah, re-checked just to make sure, we finally got invunerability to demons i'm guess
Well, fair imo, but would at least DK levels scale? Since Sparda and co needed to join forces to seal them away along with even using stuff like the Arcanas to keep them at bay
Well, the Chimera Seeds are...
Oh, i see my friend, fair enougth
Well in the last thread Glass says he agrees with you on everithing you said and agree, since you agree with invunerability, i think it got accepted imo
Not really, demons have fear empowerement, not emotion empoerement, they can feed on everithing type of...
Since my previous threads are finished guess i just post some more haxs additions today
1- BFR: Demons are able to send Dante's soul to the Demon World
2- Statistic Amplification and Improved Invulnerability: Demons are able to get even more stronger by entering their own Devil Trigger state...
Yeap, along with she figthing later some mid tier demons with Trish in DF events
Interesting, that could show that Kalina Ann is a pretty strong demonic weapon, that's a pretty good invunerability neg there imo
Not trying to rush you, but since is been a long time, mind giving some input when you can?
As one of the most reliable and oldest DMC members, your opinion is pretty much apreciate here
Should be, we assume if people are able to wield demonic infested weapons as they are getting amped since just to wield them you need a strong body, mind and soul to not get consumed by them
Well, Devil Hunters either use Devil Arms or demonic enhanced weapons, which contains DE, which empowers the user
That's is the justification of why she is amped by her weapons
Ah yeah, i forgot to mention but her weapons are enhanced with demonic shit, which enhances her physical stats too, hence why she can hurt them in the fist place since demons are immune to man made weapons
YEah, you are rigth on that too
This DMC4 Lady that scale to that not her DMC3 key, which Tony scale above
If she was a normal human in the fist place, she would never be able to deal with demons even the weaker ones as show in DMC3
The moment she fougth them she is above human standarts even if she is called "human" in...
She is not exectly a normal human since her his descendent of a priest Sparda used to seal away the Temen-ni-gru tower
She was able to keep with Bianco Angelos which are on Blitz's class level, and later helped Trish proctec the civilians agaist the demons that passed thougth the Main Hell...
Fair enouth, but Dante does mention that trying to breathe in demonic air is impossible in DMC1 even if you try to do that
Should that count for self-sustanence type 1 no?
Fair too
Well, i'm was gonna say since he was gonna if not for V's power source skill issues that he could keep up, but fair imo
DMC2 and DMC4 does mention that the air is corrupted in the HW when the DWE shenarigans is happening, so it should count, espcially that Agnus evention that the corruption is...
Well, thougth of upgrading some chars before i eventually finish my next DMC haxs additions, so lets go on it
V
Lifting Strength: At least Superhuman level (Can almost wield the Devil Sword Sparda when he was extremely weakened), Far Higher at His Peak (A Healthy and specially a peak V would...
Helo Glass do you mind checking this CTR me and the boys did that could upgrade DMC3,DMC4 and DMC5 cast to Demon King Level when ypu gotta time?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/maybe-a-dmc2-dmc4-and-dmc5-characters-upgrade.169301/
They say that narrative the guardians clan helped Sparda's seal Argosax away
They are talking about them in plural and do no mention one of them individualy being stronger or weaker them the others ones
Its safe to say they are comparable untill prove otherwise
Yeap, but Tony trie to use...
I mean there still considered important to seal Argosax away along with the others people helping Sparda seal away the others Demon Kings as a group of few people, low bailing them to baseline Demon King level is reasonable imo
Also after days checking for the raws of the DMC5 Nico's Report...
Also if we accept AP=Speed=Hax would that the guardians that helped seal Argosax and the other people that helped seal the others Demon Kings be Demon King levels?
Since even thouth teckinically it was a combined effort of multiple people, but it still would require them to be at least on DK...
Well not sure if should have resistance to precog since the raws mention that Dante can predict the future just like Ducas with BH
Dante's precg abilities is on par with BH himself
I fine with the CTR imo
And yeah, he was talking about DMC1 and DMC2 when he mention that my bad there
Yeap, but the fact that they say that about Arius-Argosax being the strongest but not bolverk in the guidebook tells who they wanna says is the strongest in DMC2 events
This guidebook is talking with DMC1, DMC2, DMC3 and DMC4 in mind, so everithin from this game is covered in that statement
Nah if the devs called Arius-Argosax one of the strongest demons, it wiuld include Bolverk since he was there in DMC2 events and they never mention Bolverk being one of the...
Well, even if wanna take that they never fougth Mundus's army despite being from the DK's army rival
But he still needed to command Argosax's army when he was absent, unless you are saying that there is no 4-C or 4-A around there
Balrog would have to scale to that tier anyway by having the...
Dante summoning a dragon with is very likely is Sparda's pet and can hurt Full Power tells otherwise imo
The devs are including him when they talking about it
Well, he is the DK is well suppose to be governing the DW
He literally got out later to have a remacth with Dante, so nah if Bolverk was really just stayed in one place
He would never got out from that place in the fist place
Or there is nobody worth to command the Fire Hell at that, so...
Well should be changed them just like i'm doing with Arkham with FE and Arius
Plus he did not got haxed like Arkham did with FE, which could imply he is stronger them Arkham since he controled DSS's power better them him
Anyway, lets just leave them as comparable rn to avoid making this...
He already scale to general tier rn
Not really, he already is able to compare to Mid Game Nero who is comparable to Incompleto Savior (Aka general tier)
This Sanctus got a power from the DS that was stated that make him reacth a tier that normal demons will never hope to achieve in their...
Oh my bad there, i'm remembered things wrong XD
The Order of Sword Cast squad are not regular demons just like Arkham with FE and Arius
No normal demon can resonate and get power from portion of a DK being and survive to tell the tale
Plus both the bad guys from eacth gamesare able to...
I fine with that, i'm just thougth he could get at least a ''possibly'' on Argosax's level, but i'm fine with that too imo
I already talked this with Ligth, agree with what you are saying bro
Are you sure, Dante says Trish figthing Savior is a bad ideia from the start, don't seen to inply she...
I fine with that
But Balrog needed to be added since well he scale above BtN Lucia by seveal times which was much stronger them her DMC2 couterpart since she was training since them
I guess a 2-C too before BtN events since Balrog was Argosax's rigth hand even before he trie to get stronger...
I fine with that imo
But one thing to note if we accept Balrog as tier 2 because of Lucia and Arius getting on that tier, it would count as 2-C for DMC3 cast since he was active along with Bolverk in DMC3 events
So if DMC3 gets full 2-C or not depends on DMC2 cast now
Unless we aceept as 2-C...
Well, knowing that Balrog wanted the entire DW as he mentions in BtN, i'm would say that he wanted more them Argosax's side
Even in the anime, they mentions that 'four great demons'' (Balrog likely being one of them) was fighing to see who is gonna rule the DW now that Mundus was sealed by...
Well, undestanding what you are comming from
I aways thouth that the normal assuption is that he is sustaining the DW untill prove otherwise, because unless they explain in details how his sustaining the DW works
What you think about Sealed Mundus escaling above Bolverk and Balrog? Since DMC...
Is the entire reason that V cannot use Nigthmare is because of V's powers skill issues?, pretty sure the guidebook confirming that he can summon the trio in a very weakened state would solve this problem.
Ok, i'm listining man
Well, lets see how this will go:
Dante and Vergil should scale to Demon King level on the same level as Sealed Mundus since is stated that a weakened Vergil can tango with him
By the time of Mundus ressurection, he was easely comanding the DW witheout interferenes despite being heavely...