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Their Max Charges aren't always the charge strength they're fighting with. Sonic's Max Charge comes from comes from when he causes the power outage in the first movie after discharging a massive buildup of energy, and from beating the Eggpod with that same level of charge harnessed at the end of...
They have electricity by default since Sonic doesn't interact with the M.E. or chaos emeralds until late into the 2nd Movie but still has electricity along with Knuckles.
Most of Nicole's greater abilites are sealed behind a rage cap that she usually isn't capable of accessing. The only real exception I can tell is potentially causing shockwaves with a glare in the scene where she glares Richard into submission in The Limit, but even that's not as strong as the...
I'll have to give it to Raditz. Sure there are cases of superior combat experience invalidating power level to an extent; prime example is Goku vs Vegeta. Goku's an ACTUAL martial artist while Vegeta is more of just a warrior by nature with good intuiton and battle prowess, but ultimately is...
Even with a slightly different mindset, he doesn't possess any insane amount of skill to land hits on someone like Beerus. Kratos is a trained military general for decades and Baldur is somewhat relative to that, meanwhile Beerus way more combat experience against a much more skilled...
I'm being charitable to Baldur if anything. He'd treat this encounter like his first one with Kratos which would bore Beerus and cause him to get killed. If the ki attack doesn't kill him, he's getting hakai'd right after.
The way I see it Beerus probably takes things lightly since he has superior hand-to-hand until he realizes Baldur can hurt him. In which case Beerus will actually start having more fun and will keep the fight going for as long as possible. Baldur's bound to get pretty annoying though when he...
What are you talking about? It's all the same arguement so it doesn't matter how many people there are, you either can refute it or you can prove Lucario could pull something of to grant him more win conditions.
With what time afforded to Lucario will he have to activate something like Swords Dance? They're both going to go for CQC right away because if Lucario wastes time to activate Swords Dance, he's losing. Adaptability won't help unless he uses a move that is fighting or steel and it also has to...
Yeah it's probably really fast, but it probably comes down to how much faster. Like Sonic goes from clashing and matching Shadow step for step to Shadow being unable to react him with a ring. Extreme is pretty high priority, but his strength doesn't go up and it only lasts for like one attack...
Against Lucario this time around, kinda seems like it ends in a Sonic victory, but this time with a much higher difficulty. Both Sonic and Lucario can just amp themselves to a higher speed and power, not sure about how big Lucario's strength amp is, things like Steadfast and Endure can clearly...
The thing is Sonic would already start out by boosting anyways. That's completely in character for how he fights, so if Darkrai starts with anything that isn't purely unavoidable, they lose.
This still doesn't really say which is the most common one used but yeah it'd be a stomp if it's either...
Then now the question is which one does Darkrai most commonly use? If it is the thought based one AND it's completely unavoidable, then it's a stomp and the fight should go in the can.
Okay so it's hard to keep track of everything. Some people are saying Darkrai's sleep and mind hax related moves are either projectiles, others are saying they're thought based and is instantaneous, and some saying the moves spawn right beneath the opponent. That's already confusing, if it's...
But how long has Sonic been usually incapacitated for is the question if anyone is going to use that as an arguement? A few hours? A day, maybe two? He has been knocked out before, but I can't remember if it was ever for a substantial amount of time.
Due to the poor fighting arena, King Vegeta has a fair chance of winning, but it's probably fair to say the fight starts and time stops immediately. Not to say that Guldo is going to one shot King Vegeta, but he more than likely takes it after two time freezes if he even needs a second one...
I also vote Sonic. He has access to reality warping, time manipulation, can make himself intangible and has power nullification to just stop Buu's ki attacks. Buu doesn't have resistance to any of this while Sonic does, so.
Endeavor abusing his stronger moves like Prominence Burn and Flash Fire Hell Spider causes him to overheat and potentially fry himself.
However, while Mole Knight is resistant to heat, he isn't resistant to Fire, so he is still capable of being burned or scorched by Endeavor. On top of that...
Nah I just think people didn't look into his page and just assumed Oozaru = Instant Win Condition.
Like even with things as equalized speed, Sonic has a better adaptability rate than Vegeta anyways so he'd either A. Over take Base Vegeta and not knock him out or B. Over take Oozaru Vegeta, get...
I mean all I'm seeing is that Vegeta WILL turn into a Oozaru and one-shot. Which doesn't make sense at all considering if they're in-character, Sonic doesn't even need to know Vegeta has Oozaru to just blitz him considering Speed is unequalized. Like If someone is at the very least twice your...
I think I figured out how it'd play out.
Modern and Classic most likely pair up, same goes for Post and Pre Gen Wave. The first to most likely get KO'd is Paramount based on his lack of experience and fighting skills/finesse in combat since he's only fought an entire bar full of people and...
If this is with standardized equipment than Sonic could just use the chaos emeralds to BFR with the Zone of Silence. Or He could just outlast her via better stamina since he's only ever been incapacitated through extremely intense conditions and, again if this is woth standard equipment, Sonic...
Since it's Low 2-C i'm assuming it's Super Sonic, not that it would matter which form Sonic's in because he negates magic passively, is resistant to curses and mind control, and I'm sure Discord gets time stopped or casted away with Chaos Control.
I don't know, maybe Sonic could seal them via Chaos Powers, or BFR them in the Zone of Silence. I mean if he's being relegated to just his Super Form it's not in character for him to do either, but other Super forms (Super Shadow and Turbo Tails) have BFR'd before and I believe Knuckles or...
I was going over this character just because I was interested in the game itself, and I noticed many hax and on top of that, tons of resistances, so I was wondering, how could another character potentially beat Es without having to being in a higher tier (so basically a 2-B to 2-A character). Do...
So essentially certain characters aren't allowed to be as strong as they could be/should be because of one reason or another even if it's refuted? Sounds about right but still I'd like to push this. I mean they even mention the Egg Blaster feat for Super Sonic's low end power level, yet they...
Well if no one can give a valid reason why these changes are unreasonable and provide a compelling counter arguement, I'd like someone to make these changes to Game Sonic's profile.
Well CH's stealth mastery doesn't mean anything when 100 people are all trained to have better senses of hearing, as well as awareness than the average person. They are getting mob rushed. Soldiers are trained for plenty of things, including stealth and high vigilance, so the chances of them...
Well seeing as how this is composite human vs 100 of people who may have less forms of combat, but still have a pretty lengthy list of available combat forms and better weaponry, the soldiers win because of sheer numbers. Composite human takes out some, but they're essentially getting mob...
To be clear, I'm talking about 4-C to High 4-C Base Sonic (strength wise), 3-A Base Sonic (durability wise), MFTL to Infinite speed Base Sonic, 3-A Excalibur Sonic (strength and durability wise), and Immeasurable speed Super Sonic because there are a fair amount of feats to support these things...
I mean if you want evidence to support this stuff just take a look at it for yourself.
https://youtu.be/HgEf4ebCfGc (Final Egg Blaster with Emerl capturing the energy of it)
https://youtu.be/1F7iuF8ZQ_4 (Further confirmation by someone equally as smart Eggman, Tails, that Ultimate Emerl...
I'd say MUI Goku takes this. While Broly is capable of pretty decent adaptability, that's only when he was given the chance to because the only reason Broly went from "meh he's fodder" to "yeah fusion is our only option" is because Vegeta was playing around too much by letting him adapt to SSJ...
Edward wins simply because of better combat skills and just generally being a smarter character. Even if Larry were to make Ed angry (which can make him out of focus) he's still the better fighter and it'd result in Edward killing Larry if anything.
I vote for Archie Sonic. Since speed is equalized, hax are the reason why, He can resist many mind relative hax thanks to the chaos emeralds (things like illusions and other mind hax shouldn't work on him), he has immortality thanks to the Ancient Walkers watching over him and he has his own...
Sonic wins via Emerald hax. He can always just stop time or teleport Madara into a black hole or star with Chaos Control. He can also just use 2 emeralds to go backwards in time and learn Madara's skill set. Sonic could transmute Madara's limbo clones into rings with his Ring Time ability, he...