- 43
- 17
Game Sonic needs an upgrade. Going through Game Sonic's wiki shows that all of his feats aren't being taken into account and some are being dwarfed.
Strength: His Base strength should be at least Large Star Level (High 4-C), reasoning for this is because the Custom Hero in Sonic Forces (Someone Sonic directly scales to), destroys the Phantom Sun with another Phantom Ruby (it was activated by the CH's desire and more than likely could also have responded to Sonic's desire to if he had found it first) created by Infinite who at the start of the game was stronger than Sonic and was capable of creating Null Space (a dimensional void that contained no time) and Infinite should be capable of outputting that power physically and with casuality as he did the Phantom Sun feat with ease and this was after the Phantom Ruby was supposedly weakened (although it is said to be weakened because of the destruction of its power source, nothing outright shows this as Infinite is capable of doing everything he always had been and the Death Egg Robot that surpassed him was capable of sending itself, Sonic, Classic Sonic, and The Custom Hero to Null Space without having to wait for a charge time, unlike Infinite who had to charge the Phantom Ruby to do said feat and on a lower scale as well). Sonic also fought and bested Ultimate Emerl who was stated in a journal entry to be Planet Level with all 7 Chaos Emeralds, but that was over 50 years ago, and since the time of that entry he had met with Sonic and established a link (link's are established through 2 ways; showing Emerl power that is stronger than his previous master's or being told to follow the orders of another person by their master). Eggman severed the link between Sonic and Emerl by using the Final Egg Blaster, which was capable of destroying multiple stars, and Eggman then tells Emerl to start capturing the energy and because Eggman had just formed a new, more powerful link with Emerl he responds with "starting data acquisition" meaning that Emerl was acquiring the data from the Final Egg Blaster that was capable of destroying multiple stars and, as Eggman told him, began to capture the energy. Emerl then not only aquires the energy of the Final Egg Blaster, but he also has control over the machine itself and tells it destroy Earth within a minute, on top of that, Emerl rejects listening to the power of the Master Emerald (this is impressive because he had all 7 chaos emeralds within him at the time so he should have had the Emeralds stripped from him and been left weakened because the 7 Chaos Emeralds are subservient to the Master Emerald, but he refuses to to let the emeralds go and fragments the Master Emerald in response to Sonic's attempt at using it to draw the Chaos Emeralds out of him). And Sonic defeated the Phantom Death Egg Robot in Base (assisted by Classic Sonic and The Custom Hero) who was stronger than Infinite and was shown to be by how it casually could summon Null Space and INCREASE the amount of clones that had appeared as someone told Tails over a walkie talkie that there were "even more clones" with "multiple sightings of Infinite, Zavok, Shadow, Metal Sonic, and Chaos".
Excalibur Sonic should be Universal (3-A) because, like the Arabian Nights in Secret Rings, The Arthurian Legend in The Black Knight operates as a different universe because it is within the confines of a book. The Dark Queen was capable of shaping the world (which would actually be all of the universe of the Arthurian Legend because the 'world' is worked around King Arthur [which is Sonic because he was chosen by Caliburn meaning that all the Arthurian Legend such as the quest for the Holy Grail, the disbandment of the Knights of the Roundtable, etc. count as part of the universe] meaning the story expands beyond Camelot and extends to all of the Legend) to her liking (wanting it to make it completely immortal so it'd never end, which would make the universe of the Arthurian Legend endless) similar to Earzor Djnn, but weaker because the Arthurian Legend was one singular time-space contiuum with one seperate reality while the Arabian Knights was a compilation of time-space continuums because of the vast amount of stories.
Darkspine Sonic and Super Sonic are fine the way they are.
Speed: Base Sonic should have MFTL to Infinite Speed because his speed restored time and space as stated by Tails, in his exact words the Time Eater "goes through time and tears space apart" and says that Sonic is "accelerating through time and restoring space". Eggman later confirms how the Time Eater's power worked by saying it could "erase time and space" and Sonic's speed was actively bringing back correcting time and space or in other words "restoring colors" to the zones he was going through. On top of that he was capable of moving Null Space which was stated by Eggman (a reliable source that has personally worked on the Phantom Ruby) to have absolutely nothing inside of it (meaning time wasn't in there either, the only reason the timer counts normally is because of game mechanics) and (with the help of the Custom Hero) actually breaks out of Null Space (He also moves around in Null Space against the Final Boss as well).
Super Sonic should have Immeasurable Speed because of his fight with Solaris (who was temporally omnipresent) and Sonic (as well as Shadow and Silver) is capable of fighting with and dodging Solaris's attacks as well as get behind them with their speed. He was also capable of keeping up with Time Eater who, again, was capable of moving through time and space and is confirmes by Tails that they are in "different dimensions" and that is why they modified their transceivers to talk with him.
Darkspine Sonic and Excalibur Sonic are fine the way they are.
Durability: Base Sonic should have Universal to Low Multiversal (3-A to 2-C) durability because he tanks multiple hits from the Dark Queen while in his base form and tanks a few attacks from Time Eater before becoming Super.
Excalibur Sonic should have Universal (3-A) durability for being capable of fighting on par with, taking attacks from, and besting the Dark Queen for reasons stated prior.
Super Sonic and Darkspine Sonic are fine the way they are.
Strength: His Base strength should be at least Large Star Level (High 4-C), reasoning for this is because the Custom Hero in Sonic Forces (Someone Sonic directly scales to), destroys the Phantom Sun with another Phantom Ruby (it was activated by the CH's desire and more than likely could also have responded to Sonic's desire to if he had found it first) created by Infinite who at the start of the game was stronger than Sonic and was capable of creating Null Space (a dimensional void that contained no time) and Infinite should be capable of outputting that power physically and with casuality as he did the Phantom Sun feat with ease and this was after the Phantom Ruby was supposedly weakened (although it is said to be weakened because of the destruction of its power source, nothing outright shows this as Infinite is capable of doing everything he always had been and the Death Egg Robot that surpassed him was capable of sending itself, Sonic, Classic Sonic, and The Custom Hero to Null Space without having to wait for a charge time, unlike Infinite who had to charge the Phantom Ruby to do said feat and on a lower scale as well). Sonic also fought and bested Ultimate Emerl who was stated in a journal entry to be Planet Level with all 7 Chaos Emeralds, but that was over 50 years ago, and since the time of that entry he had met with Sonic and established a link (link's are established through 2 ways; showing Emerl power that is stronger than his previous master's or being told to follow the orders of another person by their master). Eggman severed the link between Sonic and Emerl by using the Final Egg Blaster, which was capable of destroying multiple stars, and Eggman then tells Emerl to start capturing the energy and because Eggman had just formed a new, more powerful link with Emerl he responds with "starting data acquisition" meaning that Emerl was acquiring the data from the Final Egg Blaster that was capable of destroying multiple stars and, as Eggman told him, began to capture the energy. Emerl then not only aquires the energy of the Final Egg Blaster, but he also has control over the machine itself and tells it destroy Earth within a minute, on top of that, Emerl rejects listening to the power of the Master Emerald (this is impressive because he had all 7 chaos emeralds within him at the time so he should have had the Emeralds stripped from him and been left weakened because the 7 Chaos Emeralds are subservient to the Master Emerald, but he refuses to to let the emeralds go and fragments the Master Emerald in response to Sonic's attempt at using it to draw the Chaos Emeralds out of him). And Sonic defeated the Phantom Death Egg Robot in Base (assisted by Classic Sonic and The Custom Hero) who was stronger than Infinite and was shown to be by how it casually could summon Null Space and INCREASE the amount of clones that had appeared as someone told Tails over a walkie talkie that there were "even more clones" with "multiple sightings of Infinite, Zavok, Shadow, Metal Sonic, and Chaos".
Excalibur Sonic should be Universal (3-A) because, like the Arabian Nights in Secret Rings, The Arthurian Legend in The Black Knight operates as a different universe because it is within the confines of a book. The Dark Queen was capable of shaping the world (which would actually be all of the universe of the Arthurian Legend because the 'world' is worked around King Arthur [which is Sonic because he was chosen by Caliburn meaning that all the Arthurian Legend such as the quest for the Holy Grail, the disbandment of the Knights of the Roundtable, etc. count as part of the universe] meaning the story expands beyond Camelot and extends to all of the Legend) to her liking (wanting it to make it completely immortal so it'd never end, which would make the universe of the Arthurian Legend endless) similar to Earzor Djnn, but weaker because the Arthurian Legend was one singular time-space contiuum with one seperate reality while the Arabian Knights was a compilation of time-space continuums because of the vast amount of stories.
Darkspine Sonic and Super Sonic are fine the way they are.
Speed: Base Sonic should have MFTL to Infinite Speed because his speed restored time and space as stated by Tails, in his exact words the Time Eater "goes through time and tears space apart" and says that Sonic is "accelerating through time and restoring space". Eggman later confirms how the Time Eater's power worked by saying it could "erase time and space" and Sonic's speed was actively bringing back correcting time and space or in other words "restoring colors" to the zones he was going through. On top of that he was capable of moving Null Space which was stated by Eggman (a reliable source that has personally worked on the Phantom Ruby) to have absolutely nothing inside of it (meaning time wasn't in there either, the only reason the timer counts normally is because of game mechanics) and (with the help of the Custom Hero) actually breaks out of Null Space (He also moves around in Null Space against the Final Boss as well).
Super Sonic should have Immeasurable Speed because of his fight with Solaris (who was temporally omnipresent) and Sonic (as well as Shadow and Silver) is capable of fighting with and dodging Solaris's attacks as well as get behind them with their speed. He was also capable of keeping up with Time Eater who, again, was capable of moving through time and space and is confirmes by Tails that they are in "different dimensions" and that is why they modified their transceivers to talk with him.
Darkspine Sonic and Excalibur Sonic are fine the way they are.
Durability: Base Sonic should have Universal to Low Multiversal (3-A to 2-C) durability because he tanks multiple hits from the Dark Queen while in his base form and tanks a few attacks from Time Eater before becoming Super.
Excalibur Sonic should have Universal (3-A) durability for being capable of fighting on par with, taking attacks from, and besting the Dark Queen for reasons stated prior.
Super Sonic and Darkspine Sonic are fine the way they are.