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I'm sorry, I noticed you were a Undertale Supporter. I'm lacking input on a particular Undertale CRT, so would you be willing to evaluate it?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/2-b-undertale-is-a-literal-headcanon.143633/
Hey, my CRT needs inputs from Staff, since you're an Undertale Supporter, I thought I'd ask
https://vsbattles.com/threads/2-b-undertale-is-a-literal-headcanon.143633/
Hello, hello. I'd want to ask for your input on this Undertale CRT, since you're a supporter
https://vsbattles.com/threads/2-b-undertale-is-a-literal-headcanon.143633/
Hello, I require staff input, and Undertale Supporters input.
As both, would you mind giving your opinion here?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/2-b-undertale-is-a-literal-headcanon.143633/
"Well, that didn't last f**king long" — TFS Vegeta
Hello. So, I have issues with how high Undertale is currently asserted to in the 2-B tier, as it's based on incorrect information, and lines taken out of context. I do not intend to downgrade it to Low 2-C, like it was before, I am well aware...
Low Multiverse level, "possibly Multiverse level" (Destroyed the whole of the Undertale world as a game, erasing all of its timelines, reality and files, then recreated it using a True Reset, with the Undertale world containing 100 Timelines, as Sans mentions that the timelines stop and start...
Hey. I know you haven't been around CRTs for long, but I really need your input here
https://vsbattles.com/threads/2-b-undertale-is-a-literal-headcanon.143633/
https://vsbattles.com/threads/2-b-undertale-is-a-literal-headcanon.143633/
Hi. I'd like your input here, please. It's very straightforward and explained in detail. I've already tried to contact other staff with no avail.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-multiversal-undertale-crt.142543/
This thread was concluded with very overwhelming support. It should be closed, a new CRT may be made if any disagreeing party is unsatisfied.
I agree.
But no, Undertale Player and Deltarune Player shouldn't be merged. Even if they're the same character, both have different capabilities when it comes to the range of their time manipulation, the Deltarune Player might be either a more experienced version of the Undertale Player (as it...
...job but yours to go after this information, your stance here is not worth anything, as again, you are a layman when it comes to the Undertale Multiverse.
Get out of here, like, actually, stop clouding the thread with your bickering about people not showing you the evidence that would be...
This came first. Why should I be the one to stop my thread? Just because you wish to focus on one particular downgrade thread doesn't mean it has higher priority
...in any other situation.
Do I need to be someone with high credibility so I'm taken serious or something?
Why won't most people who would be interested in upgrading Undertale to 2-B are actively trying to pretend the thread doesn't exist or just jumping the Disagree FRA train? This is so...
Well, the debate has been severely extended by the unwanted participation of admittedly unknowledgeable participants who ask evidence on topics any knowledgeable and helpful person, on Undertale, would know.
Isn't there any way to deal with this kind of person?
Could be the reverse too.
How?
How is the equivalency false here?
No, there's no transcending statements in Undertale - it's an analogy.
Both statements are non-definitive, and singular pieces of evidence that require wild assumptions to be valid for their respective rstings. The trascending...
...going off a false piece of evidence. You needed to prove 2-B was valid - you didn't, we approved anyway because people really wanted 2-B Undertale to be a thing.
It's one possibility of the line conveying the information, it's one possibility of the line of the line even talking about resets...
I strongly suggest ignoring Greatsage altogether, they're admittedly ignorant, and are being a nuisance asking people to go out of their way to prove something to someone who is not going to be helpful, and whose agreement is worthless for the CRT.
You're begging the question.
We only consider resets as a timeline-creating feature because of Sans' statement. The other 'sans-es' lines doesn't support this at all, it's just means they are more than one. The original statement also means just 'more than one timeline'.
You can't even comprehend the meaning of these fallacies given how astronomically inaccurate your use of them here is.
You are a layman in Undertale.
You are condescending and irritating, insistent on participating where you don't belong.
You are not a supporter.
You refuse to look at the...
...argument for 2-B is strictly one line by Sans.
"Timelines stopping and starting meaning each 'start' is an entirely new timeline".
Literally, without that, the entire reasoning as to why Undertale is 2-B is non-existent.
I don't have to debunk that because that's not necessarily the case...
I'm fine with this as well, but given how the data, and game mechanics are canon to Undertale (even with repercussions for messing with the values, Dirty Hacker ending), there's nothing wrong with using the values found in the files.
Either way, do you agree with the downgrade itself though...
Please I require an input from you.
The only reason why we believe Undertale is 2-B is a shaky interpretation of a single line of dialogue, and a lot of headcanon.
"Sans says we're making timelines stop and start. This is referring to reset (headcanon). Thus each reset "starts" a new timeline...
...should be the one indexed in the profiles, not one that requires the Reset function to do something it has never been stated to do. Undertale 2-C only requires the fact Sans used plural, it's undisputably the best interpretation.
"Could be just differences-".
"Maybe it is this".
These are...
...have to completely ignore and discredit this line by saying Alphys isn't a reliable source shows a very prominent bias against Multiversal Undertale. This alone should prove 2-C, the fact it has overwhelming support doesn't help you either.
Just realized this has been applied, someone...
...to occur. If it was just the exact same timeline, how could this be? Wouldn't the changes only occur if they're caused by us? But the FUN Events are independent from the player altogether.
That is why I believe Low 2-C Undertale is simply unreasonable, and has no evidence to prove it's...
Not being a toxic prick is a choice you definitely could've made, but nah apparently acting like a 10 year old with "cry more" was more appealing. Appeal to popularity isn't a comeback either - bias is a thing, there's at best 6 people supporting this, and half of them didn't even give a reason...
...to lore itself, as most Gaster followers are found by these values.
You can call the technical values game mechanics (which are canon to Undertale anyway), it doesn't debunk my point. Again, do not attempt to explain the different FUN events with headcanon, it is been established to be...