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"Regarding the "haki" statement: since we can't really see any use, nor any statement of Law using it, it's likely not a reasonable argument to suggest he used it"
This seems kind of hypocritical.
In another thread (I'll try and find it) when I mentioned how kenbun haki should only be added to...
I think I said something similar to this about how haki should be treated as soul/spiritual energy but that was disregarded. Guess my wording was inaccurate.
Well, couldn't that same argument work for Akainu?
Ace could probably get an upgrade for being able to melt that ice from Pheasant Beak almost instantly.
Don't know, was a weird interaction. The topic originated from me saying that Orochi isn't firing lightning but rather just some type of energy attack.
@Calaca Someone was talking to me about how I can't prove Enel is actually lightning despite him agreeing that Enel's lightning looks and acts like lightning. So I was wondering if there was ever a statement that said logias are actually the element itself (which i fully agree with.)
An analogy...
That last point by Cal has always been the case for all logias. Crocodile in Impel Down, Enel in Skypiea, Aokiji in Marineford and Long Ring Island, etc.
Like I exlpained above, the air cannon projectiles probably aren't lightspeed. Just the reflection speed Kuma has is light speed, which makes sense since he can reflect attacks or push things back really fast.
Even if my interpretation is incorrect, that would mean a weakened Zoro is capable...
Official trans says, "Air pressure deflected at light speed... creating a piercing shockwave." Basically same thing as the trans from above.
I don't think it's being nitpicky. It could easily just be a misunderstanding on one side of the interpreter.
Kuma deflects the air super fast (which in...
@Xulrev - Basically what I said. Rayleigh himself said that some keen users can "even see the future."
Doesn't mean having basic precog is the same thing as that level of "future sight."
@Astral - Luffy literally used precog in Return to Sabaody arc where he dodged the laser from PX-5 (though every single scene that does have obs. haki has been confirmed via visual or verbal indication), in Fishman Island where he dodged the water bullets from Hody, and then certain fights in...
Basic observation haki is precog along with presence sensing. It's different for everyone. Precognition doesn't have to be Katakuri levels of future sight.
Rayleigh has precog, and that is a fact.
Are we also taking into account the Doriki (which measures the base physical stats of CP9), which should be a baseline for scaling Enies Lobby characters, not to mention the fact that Zoans get a boost in physicals when transformed?
Lucci being 4000 and Kalifa being 630 is a huge jump, which...
Going on to who else scales, Cat Viper and Dog Storm (Nekomamushi and Inuarushi), Jack probably, Law, potentially the Vinsmokes, some of Shichibukai for being Shichibukai (Kuma, Moria, Boa), perhaps Kinemon and the rest of the 9 Scabbards?
Idk why there was a general consensus that Kizaru isn't SOL despite the fact that he is literally someone who turns into light, manipulates light, and creates light. He's the exact same as Enel, who's accepted as lightning speed, except Kizaru has the light light DF.
I agree with this.
Also...
Kind of ignoring the fact that Katakuri was literally caught off guard before that scan, making him more vulnerable than normal. Kata isn't getting thrashed by current Luffy.
She's not using any of her techniques or fully conscious enough to straight up brawl like she did against G4 Luffy. She's not even using haki here; she's just physically strong enough to punch a dinosaur into the ground.
To be fair, Luffy did have water on his feet when deflecting Croc.
Plus, Mihawk seemed pretty intent on killing, or at the very least severely harm, Luffy, so I think we could give it to Croc for being able to block such an attack. I mean, even if we say Mihawk was holding back, he cut down...