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If by tornado you mean her literally spinning people into a tornado using TK... I don't get how this helps your case. It's the same thing with a different visual.
You are still going on about her not starting with TK despite overwhelming evidence. It's almost delusional. I just checked every...
I love how they just continue to lie about Tatsumaki and then dip from the discussion after being asked to give further argument.
It's not a counter, it's a draw.
Instant TK VS instant TP is a draw, because they're both thought based, either one has a 50/50 chance of working before the other...
Given all the discussion we have had so far there is indeed an objective conclusion to be had here.
I spelled it out for y'all multiple times. Nobody on that side has even tried to debunk me. Why? Because it isn't possible given their arguments. As said before, the opposition literally dug...
Wincon =/= First Move
You have discussed various first moves for Merlin. Not all of them are wincons.
I don't know how many times I have to say it.
Thought-based TK requires a thought-based win condition countermeasure, in order to get a draw.
So if Merlin does not use her thought-based win...
This match is objectively a Tatsumaki victory.
The Merlin supporters already dug their own grave by providing multiple first moves for Merlin which the majority of are not instant win conditions. Thus she loses majority of the time to Tatsumaki's singular win condition.
It's not really...
Okay this guy is genuinely just trolling. He just posted scans of her doing TK with thoughts only.
Psychic power is based on the mind anyway. The hand gestures do not even matter. They are just for show.
I don't know why this is an argument. If this is seriously your best counter then please...
Yeah I don't know what's up with these Merlin people. It's incoherent at this point.
I already outlined since the very beginning that the best Merlin can possibly manage here is a draw.
Because thought-based wincon vs thought-based wincon is inconclusive.
The issue is that Merlin doesn't...
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
The instant she tries reading her mind she dies to Tatsumaki's thought-based TK crush.
Why are y'all being so illogical about this lol
Actually, you know I was saying Void was weak but I didn't factor in he does seem to have a crazy Absorption power.
Depending on how far that goes, he might be insanely OP in coming chapters. It seems that absorbing that Blast orb gave him the strength to escape his bind, so he could...
The argument by the opposition completely falls apart when you realize they are arguing that Merlin has like 10 different starting moves and only like 2 of them are actually viable to prevent her from instantly dying.
The opposition thus has dug their own grave because now they have to argue...
Wait a second btw you've been going off the assumption that Merlin sometimes used a power null ability that doesn't even work on Tats.
In that case, every time she starts with that Tatsumaki wins the match. So add that to your tally.
Psychic energy is not even close to magic. It can't be equalized. There are many power systems in the OPM verse. They are all very clearly distinct from magic.
My guy, your friend Code came here with his message here being one accusing everyone here of being unknowledgeable Tensei slime haters.
Quote: "I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince a few biased haters here who are defending the opposing side despite knowing nothing about Tensura in...
Nothing I said is slanderous. That's my interpretation of what was said.
Anyway, since it seems obvious the opposition wants to concede from the discussion and is more interested in debating who their enemies are, this can be closed with the conclusion being that Long Quiet stomps...
You guys keep pushing the goal post. Again she has only a 50/50 chance of surviving the first second of this fight.
Her best options are thought-based win conditions.
Thought-based win conditions VS thought-based win conditions is a draw.
If Merlin doesn't use one of those conditions 100% of...
@LephyrTheRevanchist keep an eye on this person I guess.
They practically just admitted they don't have an actual argument and are going to wait until the opposition leaves in order to try and get past it.
Extremely bad look on part of the Tensura supporters. I am a neutral party. I simply...
You seem to misunderstand. I'm saying that it is at best a draw if everything goes right for Merlin. Because she still just instant dies 50% of the time from the TK crush even in her best case scenarios.
So there's just no logical reason to vote Merlin.
The thing is, it is at best inconclusive for Merlin.
In her best case scenario, she manages to 50/50 Tatsumaki by using a thought-based kill move at the same time that Tatsumaki uses her thought-based kill move.
In every other scenario, she loses to Tatsumaki killing her with a thought and...
His sword can erase the Od which contains soul and mind. You'd need Mid-Godly to come back from it.
Reinhard has Low-Godly resurrection granted by Od Lagna.
Based on what's been said so far, Merlin has a lot of first move options. Some win immediately (interdimensional BFR) and some don't win immediately.
Tatsumaki only really has one first move. It will always kill her. Merlin has no counter to thought-based TK crush into oblivion.
Thus...
As far as I know, Rimuru has no way of interacting with the Long Quiet.
Not only is it nonexistent, but its a higher level that is woven into its transdual nature as well.
I made this match with the belief that the Long Quiet stomps, but Tensura supporters will not agree with that outlook, so...
Saitama and Garou punching each other are not visual feats. That's hand to hand fighting. Most of the impact is being absorbed by the combatants anyway. This is a basic concept.
Murata is not trying to display power in these scenes. It's just choreography.
Okay so a lot of this is wrong. The tier 7 feats are all tier 6.
The gamma ray burst is bare minimum 5-A due to the creation of a black hole
You are saying tier 8/9 for things that are not visual feats.
This is like complaining that universes aren't being destroyed every time dragon ball...