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  1. Axscell

    [Toaru] Alice Anotherbible's Resistances

    The fact that you're not addressing any of the points I made responding to your previous objections, and instead chose to write whole new paragraphs littered with blatant appeals to reality just tells me that you simply intend to drag this argument on by regurgitating old "points" and going in...
  2. Axscell

    [Toaru] Alice Anotherbible's Resistances

    Wut? How has it been "blatantly" contradicted? We wouldn't exactly be having a discussion here, if that were the case, y'know. You seem to be misunderstood here. Nobody's claiming that Alice doesn't have any internals, like a brain, blood, etc, and neither is the author/novel. Otherwise we'd be...
  3. Axscell

    [Toaru] Alice Anotherbible's Resistances

    I'm curious, what exactly do you think is happening here? I mean, when the author goes out of his way to explicitly state and explain what is happening, how do you want to interpret it differently? I'm genuinely curious, because it seems to me like trying to justify ignoring the author's...
  4. Axscell

    Yep, there is that also.

    Yep, there is that also.
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    Not really. It would've been had the High 1-B proposal been accepted or if she had any explicit...

    Not really. It would've been had the High 1-B proposal been accepted or if she had any explicit statement of her messing with higher dimensions. Tbh, I'm not sure why MGs like Othinus and co. don't have it, seeing as Othinus does have said statement, and given how they are treated as 3-D...
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  6. Axscell

    [Toaru] Alice Anotherbible's Resistances

    I'm basing my agreements on the fact that either the ability has been stated or shown to be directly applied to target internals, bypassing the exterior altogether, or the ability targets internals by default, ignoring the exterior. My disagreements are based on the following: 1. The ability is...
  7. Axscell

    Just been busy & lazy. I'll try to post a response today.

    Just been busy & lazy. I'll try to post a response today.
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    No problemo. I'll get around to doing that soon. I would prefer to have all of it clarified...

    No problemo. I'll get around to doing that soon. I would prefer to have all of it clarified before finalizing the changes to her profile even anyway.
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  9. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Yeah, possibly. It is very possible that I'm just reading too much into it.
  10. Axscell

    [Toaru] Alice Anotherbible's Resistances

    Isn't the way her resistance to internal damage described in the LN literally the same description as the very criterion for granting immunity on this site? i.e that she's built different on the inside, and that the internal components that are usually targeted when dealing internal damage are...
  11. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    Interesting comment from Kingsford here, suggesting that Though what implications this could have, I'm not sure. Would be interesting to see if this is further elaborated later on in the volume, though I doubt it.
  12. Axscell

    Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

    I believe there is also some kind of homing attack aspect to her curse manipulation too, from what I remember 🤔
  13. Axscell

    12-D A Certain Magical Index

    Teleporters don't interact with other dimensions though, talk less of the time dimension. They only exclusively interact with the 11th dimension. I think you would have a good point if it were ever stated anywhere that they interacted with other dimensions aside from the usual 11th and 3rd, but...
  14. Axscell

    12-D A Certain Magical Index

    From what I understand here, I remember bringing this up once awhile ago, and the argument against it was that the dimension of time doesn't necessarily need to be the 11th dimension. It can the 4th dimension, and all higher dimensions above that can still be spatial. Unless there's something...
  15. Axscell

    [Toaru] Alice Anotherbible's Resistances

    NGL, I'm having trouble seeing how some of these qualify as internal damage. Shouldn't we be giving immunity to only things that exclusively target internals to cause damage? Something like Vector Manipulation, while it can be applied to target internals (like the Blood Manipulation specified...
  16. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    I believe that would be best. For now, I'm only adding the ones directly mentioned in the specific quotes talking about the immunity.
  17. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Doesn't make much sense, huh 🤔 I'll fix it (remove the 'At least' part) when applying the changes.
  18. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Yes. The more dubious internal damage (like Phase Manipulation) resistances have pretty much been agreed to be discussed in a separate CRT, as they would only further stall this thread and everything else that's been proposed here that isn't internal damage resistance.
  19. Axscell

    Kamijou Touma's Minor CRT (Toaru)

    Yep. All looks good. Agree
  20. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Fairs. Welp, no worries then. I'll try to finish it as soon as possible.
  21. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    😭 Is there a way to make it editable?
  22. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Yeah, I'd really appreciate that. Thanks
  23. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    There is a blog on my profile where I had previously started adding some of the changes before, but I don't know how soon I'll be able to finish it. If you're not busy with anything right now, feel free to add the changes. Otherwise, if you do have other stuff to take care, don't worry too much...
  24. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Yeah, you're right. The main points of contention that were being debated were to do with infinite speed, immunity to internal damage and resurrection/regeneration negation, of which several arguments for and against were made. We do have a vote tally ongoing regarding said points, and these are...
  25. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    At this point, I don't think any staff is going to be interested in chiming in on the current points of contention. Let's try to debate it amongst ourselves and knowledgeable users, and try to come to a resolution. We can then maybe get someone like Antvasima to greenlight the changes before...
  26. Axscell

    [To Aru] Ain Sof Aur 000 potential revision

    I find that Toaru's various descriptions of God and things that have to do with such a being tend to run into problems of inconsistency and contradiction, when it's not been made explicitly clear what such a being is (if they even actually exist as an entity) and how exactly do they exist in...
  27. Axscell

    [To Aru] Ain Sof Aur 000 potential revision

    Not really much of a point to making a profile for the character, when we know next to nothing about them as far as tiering and abilities are concerned.
  28. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Bump. Been preoccupied for a while now, but time to get back to this IG. I've asked DT to give their thoughts on this, so hopefully we're able to make some progress if they respond.
  29. Axscell

    Sabrina Spellman void manipulation

    Her ability to send people to the void does seem to be passive whenever she's distressed IIRC, but not all the time, as she can also use it willingly in a fight. Also, the Pandora Box isn't related to her ability. It's just how she dealt with The Void in the end.
  30. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Anyone know of any staff who would interested in this thread (other than DT, since they seem to be off the site currently)?
  31. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Agree with resurrection negation, or regen negation? Agree with blanket immunity term or listing down as possibly? Please be a little more specific.
  32. Axscell

    Content Revision Promotion Thread

    Still need more staff input here. Non-staff user inputs also appreciated.
  33. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    I just made additions to the votes section above. Can I get everyone's stance on the following points: Infinite Speed: Agree: Disagree: Neutral: @Axscell Regeneration Negation: Agree with regeneration negation: Agree with resurrection negation: @Axscell Disagree with both: Internal Damage...
  34. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    @XDragnoir , @Zensum , @Accelerate420 Am I correct to assume that you guys are fine with the proposed AP/Tier rating? To organize things, and help this move along, Current points of contention: 1. Regeneration negation 2. Infinite speed 3. Immunity/Resistance to various forms of internal...
  35. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    The proposal in the CRT should be fine then, without listing down specific resistances, one by one:
  36. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    These are the specific instance of a direct showcase and statement, demonstrating and explaining her immunity to internal damage: Is it really not enough to justify this, when there's a direct showing and statement?:
  37. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    I am fine with having her as 5B Physically, at least High 1-C, likely far higher with Live Adventures in Wonderland tbh. Don't think there was any difference in terms of physicals between Front and Backstage Alice IIRC. Yeah, I think that works better. He punched her sure, but there's no...
  38. Axscell

    Content Revision Promotion Thread

    Priority: 1 Verse: Toaru Majutsu no Index Description: Tier (High 1-C) and speed (SoL & Infinite) upgrade, along with several ability additions (e.g. Concept Manipulation, various resistances & immunities). Staff input required, especially on the topic of speed.
  39. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Well speed calc for Tris aside, I think it's okay to place Alice's speed at At least SoL, since we have this statement from the battle between Alice, Anna and Tris, directly stating that she was always faster than both (which should include Tris' attacks) As for listing down the forms of...
  40. Axscell

    Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision

    Is there a specific part that needs to be calced? Idk, his reactions scaling to his attack speed made sense to me because he was physically moving to attack at SoL speeds, rather than shooting a SoL projectile. If it was the latter, I could why his reactions wouldn't necessarily scale to his...
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